Illegal migrant set train passenger on fire and watched her burn to death

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Wouldn't that be why they are Illegally in the country?
Do dems provide housing and money to these illegals?
So you agree that the US is not an open border nation then because if someone is here illegally it means there is a legal process to be followed (which they did not) before coming in. Correct?
So your initial statement about the dems supporting open borders was a lie.
Also, if migrants were allowed in, then they are not illegal.
That is a legal process that got them in.
You can debate whether or not such programs should exist, which is fair.
But they are not illegal.
 
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If they are already integrated, living there, economically self sustaining and contributing to the economy, why not?
Also, if migrants were allowed in, then they are not illegal.
That is a legal process that got them in.
Which is why Trump had a remain in Mexico policy for asylum seekers. And separating children from parents. And cages.

All of which deterred irregular border crossings during his administration. And which were all rolled back under Biden.
 

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So you agree that the US is not an open border nation then because if someone is here illegally it means there is a legal process to be followed (which they did not) before coming in. Correct?
So your initial statement about the dems supporting open borders was a lie.
Also, if migrants were allowed in, then they are not illegal.
That is a legal process that got them in.
You can debate whether or not such programs should exist, which is fair.
But they are not illegal.
Your whole premise is on the flawed foundation that Democrats enforce the law.

Illegal immigrants are exactly that, illegals. They have to go back.


You said it yourself, No Visa No Stay. It's Democrats that keep blocking and trying to change rules to get illegals in.

So it doesn't matter what they say, they can give five speeches a day. The actions don't line up with the law and the people.
 
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Your whole premise is on the flawed foundation that Democrats enforce the law.

Illegal immigrants are exactly that, illegals. They have to go back.


You said it yourself, No Visa No Stay. It Democrats that keep blocking and trying to change rules to get illegals in.

So it doesn't matter what they say, they can give five speeches a day. The actions do line up with the law and the people.
You may not like dem policy and that is okay to say so and criticize.
But you have to be accurate as to what policy you are criticizing and why, which you haven't.
If you want an example, see southpaw's post above regarding deterring illegal border crossings.
I dont agree with him, or with Trump's policy, and I agree with what the dems did repealing Trump era policies, but that is his specific view on it.
You on the other hand seem to assume things.
You said Dems support open borders.
This is not true.
You say Dems dont enforce the law.
This is also not true. They do.
 
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DesRicardo

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You may not like dem policy and that is okay to say so and criticize.
But you have to be accurate as to what policy you are criticizing and why, which you haven't.
If you want an example, see southpaw's post above regarding deterring illegal border crossings.
I dont agree with him, or with Trump's policy, and I agree with what the dems did repealing Trump era policies, but that is his specific view on it.
You on the other hand seem to assume things.
You said Dems support open borders.
This is not true.
You say Dems dont enforce the law.
This is also not true. They do.
It's very Accurate what I'm saying. You are just being dismissive.

But the people see the truth, which is why the Dems lost the election.

Actions spoke louder than words.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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It's very Accurate what I'm saying. You are just being dismissive.

But the people see the truth, which is why the Dems lost the election.

Actions spoke louder than words.
That still does not mean open borders.
You can criticize the decision to let them in but saying it is open borders is not accurate.
 

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Which is why Trump had a remain in Mexico policy for asylum seekers. And separating children from parents. And cages.

All of which deterred irregular border crossings during his administration. And which were all rolled back under Biden.
Trump got away with the "remain in Mexico" policy because of the COVID emergency. When Biden tried to keep the policy in place, the courts over ruled him and said the policy was no longer legal.
 
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mandrill

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Don't worry, come January The Don will be in.
Maybe he'll build THE WALL AND MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT.....

That will solve the illegal immigrant problem. What you think about that?
 

mandrill

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Your whole premise is on the flawed foundation that Democrats enforce the law.

Illegal immigrants are exactly that, illegals. They have to go back.


You said it yourself, No Visa No Stay. It Democrats that keep blocking and trying to change rules to get illegals in.

So it doesn't matter what they say, they can give five speeches a day. The actions do line up with the law and the people.
Why did lazy fucker Trump wait 2 years before putting in place the "remain in Mexico" policy and why did he never "build the wall"????

Is he incompetent? A liar who doesn't give a shit about the little guy who votes for him???..... You tell me.

 
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Don't worry, come January The Don will be in.
Every couple of weeks, he'll make a big announcement of how he's going to kick out the illegals. And then he won't do any of it.

Because it's a joke he plays on the people who vote for him and he laughs at you... 😹 😹 😹
 
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DesRicardo

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He will get bogged down in the courts and with the associated logistics of "rounding up" millions of people.
And then he will do something for the optics and claim his big victory and you guys will buy into that too.
Almost every level of government is republican majority. Even the Supreme Court.

Good Luck.

 
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