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richaceg

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You dont know why illegal immigrants choose to become illegal immigrants.
There are many reasons.
But their reasons are not relevant.
They are undocumented regardless.
And because they are good residents otherwise, give them a path to legal status so they can pay taxes etc.,
It can even become conditional, like asking them to pay back taxes they owe etc.,
My point is there are other solutions, than creating a needless and impractical humanitarian crisis, that will get bogged down in the courts anyway wasting enormous tax payer money.
I just laid out the best solution...it was in place for decades...applying to become immigrant is quite easy...and one of the requirements is... no criminal record or falsified documents....crossing the border illegally fails those requirements...immigration always count the applicant have "good faith". show up to the border legally. That's what I did.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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I just laid out the best solution...it was in place for decades...applying to become immigrant is quite easy...and one of the requirements is... no criminal record or falsified documents....crossing the border illegally fails those requirements...immigration always count the applicant have "good faith". show up to the border legally. That's what I did.
You cannot "go to the border and apply".
That is not how immigration works.
 

richaceg

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If they are already integrated, living there, economically self sustaining and contributing to the economy, why not?
what do you mean already integrated...read my post, if there are 50million outside of the US that are potentially gonna be good faith citizens, you can just bring them all in? I wonder what will happen...
 
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Well we know that already.
But what is done is done.
Even murderers get released early from prison for good behaviour.
So a non-violent immigrant without papers, can definitely be provided a path to legal status without uppending his/her life.
It is not a difficult concept to understand.
Nope, if they entered illegally when the legal option was there they have no reason to jump the line.
 

DesRicardo

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My point is border security has been the same since 2018 that he was able to come back in a 2nd time.
So Trump did nothing to actually improve anything.
He was a recent arrival, got caught and was deported and the 2nd time around he learned how to get around it.
You can have a point, but your point is wrong.
Trump wants harder policies, Dems want open borders. This is the outcome.

You have to stop dancing around the fact you guys are wrong.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Nope, if they entered illegally when the legal option was there they have no reason to jump the line.
There are many reasons.
Like escaping death, crime, poverty.
One other huge factor is the actual lack of the proverbial "line", that people think immigrants "stand in".
Its complex.
 

DesRicardo

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That is misinformation.
Provide an example of a democrat in power who advocated for open borders.
Avocation mean nothing.

They advocated for Israel to stop bombing Palestine, yet they still provided bombs.

Same with illegal immigration it's either you send them back or you don't. If you don't, then that's the side you stand on.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Avocation mean nothing.

They advocated for Israel to stop bombing Palestine, yet they still provided bombs.

Same with illegal immigration it's either you send them back or you don't. If you don't, then that's the side you stand on.
That is not answer to my question.
You said the dems support open borders.
Show me they support open borders.
I heard Kamala say this. This would be the opposite of open borders.
 

DesRicardo

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That is not answer to my question.
You said the dems support open borders.
Show me they support open borders.
I heard Kamala say this. This would be the opposite of open borders.
It is the answer, you just don't want to accept it. As I keep saying, you won't accept you being wrong.

When tens of thousands were relocated across America did they send them back? No.

It doesn't matter what Kamala said because they bused and resettle the same people she said don't come.

 

southpaw

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so let's say 50 million people all guaranteed to be good citizens could come illegally and will get a path to citizenship?
How about 100 million? Or 1 billion?
 

DesRicardo

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You said dems supported open borders but fail to provide proof of such support.
The dems dont support open borders and I provided proof for the same.
And that why they lost the election. They are dishonest.

Dems saying they don't support open borders is exactly like them saying "We want Israel to stop striking Palestine" and "A female can be born male".
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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And that why they lost the election. They are dishonest.

Dems saying they don't support open borders is exactly like them saying "We want Israel to stop striking Palestine" and "A female can be born male".
Either lies or examples that have no relation to each other.
Open borders means there are no visa requirements.
Does the US not have visa requirements?
 
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