I will never hate Islam again!
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I don't know how you can argue Islam is evil when you defend a group of people calling themselves the 'chosen people' doin this kind of crap.For everyone that loves a Twitter reposts, here’s one that quietly reminds us of the absurdity of ignoring the obvious. LOL.
Lewis Miles (@Maga4liberty) on X
Islam has a problem with Christians, Gays, Jews, Women, Hindus, Atheists, Buddhists & non-Muslims… but if I have a problem with Muslims, then I’m an Islamophobe? It makes no sense. Deport them all? 😡🕌 #Islamx.com
Frank, do I need to remind you incessantly of the perks of being chosen?
Show me 1 of my posts that prove I hate Muslims. You can't. Saying that Muslim values aren't aligned with western values is not a hateful statement.
Now you on the other hand have displayed full on hatred of Israel and the Jewish state.
A fallacy? My God you cannot be that ignorant. Guess what. Jews have been existing en masse in western countries long before Muslims have. They assimilated into the culture because they helped build said culture. Muslims didn't and many have a difficult time assimilating because they aren't aligned with our culture and values. That is a straight up fact.Judeo-Christian values, what a fallacy and a joke! Epitome of ignorance and willful blindness.
No such thing exists, no compatibility between Judaism and Christianity post old testament. Double check those values and return here with sense. No more excuses for such level of ignorance...if you can type here, you can do some research on the internet
Frank, I don't see where Bethlehem being 80% Christian under Israeli control, and now less than 10% Christian since being under the Palestinian Authority control, supports any of your positions.
To me that suggests that under Israeli control the Christians felt welcome, but unwelcome under Islamic control.
I got to visit Bethlehem on my first trip to Israel in 1970, and a second time in 1980. The Church of the Nativity was the highlight, especially as in 1970 it was at Christmas time.
On both trips we got to also visit Nablus and Hebron.
‘Did Palestinian Christians tell you that? Or is this just your brainwashed need to churn everything through that sad sack Zio Hasbara filter.
It took me less than 30 seconds to find Palestinian Christian voices
“In 2006, a Zogby poll that interviewed more than 1,000 Palestinian Christians from Bethlehem found that 79% of the respondents cited the Israeli occupation as source of difficulties leading the emigration of their community.[113] In the same year, the Palestinian Centre for Research and Cultural Dialogue conducted a poll among the city's Christians according to which 90% said they had had Muslim friends, 73.3% agreed that the PNA treated Christian heritage in the city with respect and 78% attributed the exodus of Christians to the Israeli blockade.[114]”
The occupation is a crime against humanity and must end. Those responsible need to brought before justice.
From the river to the sea, Palestine must be free.
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"Justice" is defined and meted out by the most powerful and exploitative.
The weak and disenfranchised are left to their own devices.
more like the whole "civilized" world todayCanada today
our owners love to watch us fight
First, thanks for noting that my hatred is towards the state of Israel and not the Jewish people.
Second, your comment about Muslims and western values is a variation on comments about savages and civilization. Its you tarnishing an entire people and religion based on your views of them.
Its easy to show, tell us which 'Muslim values' you are specifically saying aren't aligned with western values.
Did you see the video that squeezer posted? It showed Bethlehem as totally walled in with all access controlled through checkpoints.
That is the source of the oppression driving Christians out of Israel.
UNICEF reported a kid shot by one of these cranes.
LOL!...
The irony...
Throwing around accusations of anti-Semitism to smear when in fact it only renders the word more meaningless.
Accusing for criticizing the foreign policy of a murderous state, for referencing a word, created by Jews, used by Jews, to denigrate non Jews.
It means zero now, less than zero, except for those who are totally self-absorbed. tone deaf supremacists.
You're preaching to the converted, or in this case, the chosen.
Every accusation by a Zio is a confessionI would ask that you then enlighten me. But you can’t. I feel sorry for you that you hate history so much.
So your source is the pro-Palestinian imeu.org.Did you see the video that squeezer posted? It showed Bethlehem as totally walled in with all access controlled through checkpoints.
That is the source of the oppression driving Christians out of Israel.
Here is a copy and paste from "Israel Hayom", from March 2, 2025.
I wonder which one is more truthful? Is it the Israelis, or is it the Muslims, that are more accepting of Christian "infidels"? Three guesses and the first two don't count...
WHY ARE THERE NO CHRISTIANS IN BETHLEHEM?
About a week ago, the United Nations headquarters in Geneva screened the film Via Dolorosa, which tells the story of Christians in the Holy Land. During the screening, Father Ibrahim Faltas stated that many Christians have lost their faith and "fled the Christian areas of Jerusalem, Bethlehem, and Nazareth." While many blame Israel for this reality, the systematic oppression of Christians has, in fact, been carried out for decades by the Palestinian authorities in Judea and Samaria and in Gaza.
"Terrorist attacks against Christians, assaults on churches, cemeteries, and Christian properties in the Palestinian Authority... have become daily occurrences, and their severity clearly intensifies during Christian holidays," the Greek Orthodox Church recently declared.
Reports from Gaza describe attacks on Christians and Christian holy sites (including cemeteries) carried out by Hamas police. Legal scholar and researcher Justus Reid Weiner wrote in a July 2024 report for The Bitachonist: "Over the course of a decade, I interviewed dozens of Palestinian Christians who were victims of attacks. Many of those I interviewed were too frightened to tell their stories."
These are not isolated incidents of persecution but a systematic, institutionalized suppression, often initiated or backed by the Palestinian Authority and Hamas. In a December 2024 report by the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, a Protestant pastor from the Palestinian Authority testified that the Palestinian police do not protect Christians.
In the report, Sanaa Razi Nashash from Beit Jala described how she went to the police to file a complaint against a Muslim man who assaulted her—only to find the assailant wearing a police uniform. Christians who manage to reach local courts rarely receive justice, while the perpetrators are left unpunished.
In 2003, the Palestinian Authority closed the Ministry of Religious Affairs and announced its intention to impose Sharia law on all Palestinians. Under Sharia, Christians (like Jews) are granted the inferior status of dhimmi (protected persons), as they have not converted to Islam.
A dhimmi may pay a tax in exchange for protection from being killed or enslaved under Islamic law. In practice, however, the Palestinian authorities persecute the Christian population through systematic land confiscations via the Palestinian courts, extortion and seizure of Christian-owned businesses, and systematic discrimination against Christians in employment. Christians are excluded from leadership positions in the Palestinian Authority and face difficulties buying and selling land and property.
Bethlehem, long considered a Christian city, exemplifies these trends of demographic and cultural decline. According to the Christian Information Center, in 1950 Christians made up 86% of Bethlehem's population. Until the Oslo Accords, Bethlehem had the largest Christian majority of any city in the area, but since the Palestinian Authority assumed control in 1994, the Christian population has steadily decreased.
A 2017 census revealed that only 10% of Bethlehem's residents were Christians. Meanwhile, Hamas has increasingly intervened in city leadership, with its members occupying most seats on the city council - contrary to Palestinian law.
In Gaza, the situation is even worse. Since Hamas took over the Gaza Strip in 2007, the Christian population has shrunk from 5,000 to approximately 600 today. Testimonies from Palestinian Christians in Gaza, collected by Christian organizations, describe a constant threat to their lives.
Some have reported practicing their faith in secret - and some even grow beards to blend in with the Muslim population, following reports of kidnappings and forced conversions to Islam. In 2016, Gaza Bishop Alexios submitted a petition on the matter to Ismail Haniyeh on behalf of the Christian community, but received no response.
The situation is particularly dire for women and girls, who suffer from sexual assaults and rape. In a rare 2002 interview, Inas Jaris Hanna Musleh, a 23-year-old Palestinian Christian teacher at the Joy School in Beit Sahur, said that public harassment began with the rise of the Palestinian Authority.
Christian women in the Palestinian Authority and Gaza have also reported receiving death threats from Muslims who oppose their presence in public spaces. In 2004, a 16-year-old Christian girl was kidnapped from Bethlehem by a Muslim man whose relatives hold senior positions in the Palestinian Authority's security services. In 2020, a Christian girl was kidnapped, and in 2023, a 22-year-old woman was abducted. Both were kidnapped by Muslims, subjected to physical, sexual, and psychological violence, and were only released following international intervention.
The Western world prefers to turn the other cheek.
Why don’t you stop that Zio evasion and address each of the points in Frank’s attachment?
There are a ton of sources on the history.I would ask that you then enlighten me. But you can’t. I feel sorry for you that you hate history so much.
You won't read them, but maybe you'd watch a movie or at least a trailer.
I find this problem quite often talking with zionists. While I really do honestly appreciate that we can dialog one issue that repeatedly comes up is that most zionists, more so than most Jews, won't accept non-Jewish or non-Israeli sources. I've tried with the sources that should be most unbiased, like Amnesty or HRW. Or international sources like UN, ICC or ICJ reports. Even MSF, UNICEF or WFP aren't accepted. Even going to the Israeli B'tselem isn't good enough. But yes, if I post an Arabic or Muslim source I know that won't be considered at all, its all part of the problem. And really, you should question why you won't consider the views of the Arab world and what that says about your own views.
But Israel Hayom?
Israel Hayom (Hebrew: יִשְׂרָאֵל הַיּוֹם, lit. 'Israel Today') is an Israeli Hebrew-language free daily newspaper. Distributed for free around Israel,[6] it is the country's most widely distributed newspaper.[7][2] Owned by the family of Sheldon Adelson, the casino mogul and political donor, Israel Hayom has been noted for its right-wing editorial stance and coverage of Israeli politics, often sparking debate about its political alignment.
Given all that, I'll post a link to a Haaretz article. Though I expect you'll say its 'leftist' or 'fake news' or something.
J'lem church leaders urge Knesset to address 'hate crimes' against Christians
At a Knesset hearing on harassment of Christian clergy in Jerusalem's Old City amid growing scrutiny of violent incidents, church leaders described spitting, kicking, stone-throwing and intimidation, which opposition MK Gilad Kariv called a 'moral disgrace'
