UNICEF reported a kid shot by one of these cranes.
I will never hate Islam again!
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LOL!...
The irony...
Throwing around accusations of anti-Semitism to smear when in fact it only renders the word more meaningless.
Accusing for criticizing the foreign policy of a murderous state, for referencing a word, created by Jews, used by Jews, to denigrate non Jews.
It means zero now, less than zero, except for those who are totally self-absorbed. tone deaf supremacists.
You're preaching to the converted, or in this case, the chosen.
So many on this board and the left in general actually are either ignorant of history or simply willfully blind. Well it’s time for a quick lesson.
And free to fact check me with AI.
1) the Jewish people have been living continuously in Israel / Palestine for 4000 years (I may be off a couple of hundred). They lived under their own rule and then under Roman rule at the time of Jesus. The lands were known as Judea.
2) later the name Palestine came from the Romans. They named the land Phillistine after the Phillistine people who also lived in coastal communities along the eastern Med. The Phillistines were enemies of Rome. The phillistines were not muslims as Islam did not exist at the time. Only in 600 AD did arabs begin to live there after Muslim armies defeated the Byzantine empire driving them out of the regions. Jews however still maintained a presence in the area. The name phillistine however stuck, mainly because the Roman’s kept good records.
3) centuries later , When Britain emerged with their empire , they ruled the region. The name of the area evolved into Palestine. Jews lived they’re sing with arabs. Palestine was however not a country. It did not have its own government. It was controlled and governed under British mandate. The people known as the Palestinians are actually settlers from Jordan. Jordan is actually their homeland.
4) Jews after WW2 , seaked recognition of their ancestral homeland as a country so it can act as a safe haven for Jews following the holocaust. So the holocaust could never happen again to the Jewish people because they could defend themselves as an independent country.
5) in 1947, Britain gave up is mandate and Israeli was recognized as an independent state. Many arabs lived there and that was not a problem for the Jews. Jews were happy to share the country.
6) after Israel’s founding , The arabs counties around were inflamed by its new existence and started wars against Israel’s. Israel defeated every country that was started war against it.
7) since day 1 , The mere existence of a recognized state for the Jewish people is inflammatory to some arabs. Hence the modern movement of terrorism and propoganda with the ultimate goal of getting rid of the Jews from the area entirely. It’s not about a Palestinian state existing next door Israel. The slogan from the River to the Sea says it all !
8) since it’s founding, Israel has built a modern functioning country. Palestinians had tbe same chance but it chose to focus its energy on hate and violence instead of being productive.
9) Israel though harsh in moments, strives for peace and being free from threats of destruction. The strength of its people and military is built on a simple mission of securing its future from any threat.
And free to fact check me with AI.
1) the Jewish people have been living continuously in Israel / Palestine for 4000 years (I may be off a couple of hundred). They lived under their own rule and then under Roman rule at the time of Jesus. The lands were known as Judea.
2) later the name Palestine came from the Romans. They named the land Phillistine after the Phillistine people who also lived in coastal communities along the eastern Med. The Phillistines were enemies of Rome. The phillistines were not muslims as Islam did not exist at the time. Only in 600 AD did arabs begin to live there after Muslim armies defeated the Byzantine empire driving them out of the regions. Jews however still maintained a presence in the area. The name phillistine however stuck, mainly because the Roman’s kept good records.
3) centuries later , When Britain emerged with their empire , they ruled the region. The name of the area evolved into Palestine. Jews lived they’re sing with arabs. Palestine was however not a country. It did not have its own government. It was controlled and governed under British mandate. The people known as the Palestinians are actually settlers from Jordan. Jordan is actually their homeland.
4) Jews after WW2 , seaked recognition of their ancestral homeland as a country so it can act as a safe haven for Jews following the holocaust. So the holocaust could never happen again to the Jewish people because they could defend themselves as an independent country.
5) in 1947, Britain gave up is mandate and Israeli was recognized as an independent state. Many arabs lived there and that was not a problem for the Jews. Jews were happy to share the country.
6) after Israel’s founding , The arabs counties around were inflamed by its new existence and started wars against Israel’s. Israel defeated every country that was started war against it.
7) since day 1 , The mere existence of a recognized state for the Jewish people is inflammatory to some arabs. Hence the modern movement of terrorism and propoganda with the ultimate goal of getting rid of the Jews from the area entirely. It’s not about a Palestinian state existing next door Israel. The slogan from the River to the Sea says it all !
8) since it’s founding, Israel has built a modern functioning country. Palestinians had tbe same chance but it chose to focus its energy on hate and violence instead of being productive.
9) Israel though harsh in moments, strives for peace and being free from threats of destruction. The strength of its people and military is built on a simple mission of securing its future from any threat.
I would ask that you then enlighten me. But you can’t. I feel sorry for you that you hate history so much.
Every accusation by a Zio is a confessionI would ask that you then enlighten me. But you can’t. I feel sorry for you that you hate history so much.
Every statement you make is BS and/or cryptic speak. Whatever Klatuu. Go back to your space ship. You’re not cut out for the real world.
So your source is the pro-Palestinian imeu.org.Did you see the video that squeezer posted? It showed Bethlehem as totally walled in with all access controlled through checkpoints.
That is the source of the oppression driving Christians out of Israel.
Here is a copy and paste from "Israel Hayom", from March 2, 2025.
I wonder which one is more truthful? Is it the Israelis, or is it the Muslims, that are more accepting of Christian "infidels"? Three guesses and the first two don't count...
WHY ARE THERE NO CHRISTIANS IN BETHLEHEM?
About a week ago, the United Nations headquarters in Geneva screened the film Via Dolorosa, which tells the story of Christians in the Holy Land. During the screening, Father Ibrahim Faltas stated that many Christians have lost their faith and "fled the Christian areas of Jerusalem, Bethlehem, and Nazareth." While many blame Israel for this reality, the systematic oppression of Christians has, in fact, been carried out for decades by the Palestinian authorities in Judea and Samaria and in Gaza.
"Terrorist attacks against Christians, assaults on churches, cemeteries, and Christian properties in the Palestinian Authority... have become daily occurrences, and their severity clearly intensifies during Christian holidays," the Greek Orthodox Church recently declared.
Reports from Gaza describe attacks on Christians and Christian holy sites (including cemeteries) carried out by Hamas police. Legal scholar and researcher Justus Reid Weiner wrote in a July 2024 report for The Bitachonist: "Over the course of a decade, I interviewed dozens of Palestinian Christians who were victims of attacks. Many of those I interviewed were too frightened to tell their stories."
These are not isolated incidents of persecution but a systematic, institutionalized suppression, often initiated or backed by the Palestinian Authority and Hamas. In a December 2024 report by the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, a Protestant pastor from the Palestinian Authority testified that the Palestinian police do not protect Christians.
In the report, Sanaa Razi Nashash from Beit Jala described how she went to the police to file a complaint against a Muslim man who assaulted her—only to find the assailant wearing a police uniform. Christians who manage to reach local courts rarely receive justice, while the perpetrators are left unpunished.
In 2003, the Palestinian Authority closed the Ministry of Religious Affairs and announced its intention to impose Sharia law on all Palestinians. Under Sharia, Christians (like Jews) are granted the inferior status of dhimmi (protected persons), as they have not converted to Islam.
A dhimmi may pay a tax in exchange for protection from being killed or enslaved under Islamic law. In practice, however, the Palestinian authorities persecute the Christian population through systematic land confiscations via the Palestinian courts, extortion and seizure of Christian-owned businesses, and systematic discrimination against Christians in employment. Christians are excluded from leadership positions in the Palestinian Authority and face difficulties buying and selling land and property.
Bethlehem, long considered a Christian city, exemplifies these trends of demographic and cultural decline. According to the Christian Information Center, in 1950 Christians made up 86% of Bethlehem's population. Until the Oslo Accords, Bethlehem had the largest Christian majority of any city in the area, but since the Palestinian Authority assumed control in 1994, the Christian population has steadily decreased.
A 2017 census revealed that only 10% of Bethlehem's residents were Christians. Meanwhile, Hamas has increasingly intervened in city leadership, with its members occupying most seats on the city council - contrary to Palestinian law.
In Gaza, the situation is even worse. Since Hamas took over the Gaza Strip in 2007, the Christian population has shrunk from 5,000 to approximately 600 today. Testimonies from Palestinian Christians in Gaza, collected by Christian organizations, describe a constant threat to their lives.
Some have reported practicing their faith in secret - and some even grow beards to blend in with the Muslim population, following reports of kidnappings and forced conversions to Islam. In 2016, Gaza Bishop Alexios submitted a petition on the matter to Ismail Haniyeh on behalf of the Christian community, but received no response.
The situation is particularly dire for women and girls, who suffer from sexual assaults and rape. In a rare 2002 interview, Inas Jaris Hanna Musleh, a 23-year-old Palestinian Christian teacher at the Joy School in Beit Sahur, said that public harassment began with the rise of the Palestinian Authority.
Christian women in the Palestinian Authority and Gaza have also reported receiving death threats from Muslims who oppose their presence in public spaces. In 2004, a 16-year-old Christian girl was kidnapped from Bethlehem by a Muslim man whose relatives hold senior positions in the Palestinian Authority's security services. In 2020, a Christian girl was kidnapped, and in 2023, a 22-year-old woman was abducted. Both were kidnapped by Muslims, subjected to physical, sexual, and psychological violence, and were only released following international intervention.
The Western world prefers to turn the other cheek.
Why don’t you stop that Zio evasion and address each of the points in Frank’s attachment?
There are a ton of sources on the history.I would ask that you then enlighten me. But you can’t. I feel sorry for you that you hate history so much.
You won't read them, but maybe you'd watch a movie or at least a trailer.
Because a machine gun attached to a crane with duct tape 150 feet in the air shot a Palestinian from 10km away where a soldier used a string attached to the trigger , pulled it and made a world record kill where the bullet flew through six buildings and a car window. How fucken dumb can you be to believe this. Palestinians posting fake and unrealistic things are themselves in awe that you’re buying it. LOL. I think you need to show me a diagram of how this is feasible. Please and thank you.
I find this problem quite often talking with zionists. While I really do honestly appreciate that we can dialog one issue that repeatedly comes up is that most zionists, more so than most Jews, won't accept non-Jewish or non-Israeli sources. I've tried with the sources that should be most unbiased, like Amnesty or HRW. Or international sources like UN, ICC or ICJ reports. Even MSF, UNICEF or WFP aren't accepted. Even going to the Israeli B'tselem isn't good enough. But yes, if I post an Arabic or Muslim source I know that won't be considered at all, its all part of the problem. And really, you should question why you won't consider the views of the Arab world and what that says about your own views.
But Israel Hayom?
Israel Hayom (Hebrew: יִשְׂרָאֵל הַיּוֹם, lit. 'Israel Today') is an Israeli Hebrew-language free daily newspaper. Distributed for free around Israel,[6] it is the country's most widely distributed newspaper.[7][2] Owned by the family of Sheldon Adelson, the casino mogul and political donor, Israel Hayom has been noted for its right-wing editorial stance and coverage of Israeli politics, often sparking debate about its political alignment.
Given all that, I'll post a link to a Haaretz article. Though I expect you'll say its 'leftist' or 'fake news' or something.
J'lem church leaders urge Knesset to address 'hate crimes' against Christians
At a Knesset hearing on harassment of Christian clergy in Jerusalem's Old City amid growing scrutiny of violent incidents, church leaders described spitting, kicking, stone-throwing and intimidation, which opposition MK Gilad Kariv called a 'moral disgrace'
So can You actually, coherently explain your case. What am I wrong about. ? Instead of leading me to someone’s skewed version of history. Just write a paragraph disputing my points. You won’t because the facts can’t be refuted. And because you’re lazy. You’d rather eat some Burger King and scroll through Left Wing Twitter. Which amazingly is owned by Elon who could, but won’t , shut down the Lefts BS.
Israel has been documented using AI targeting for drones, putting AI controlled guns on top of a crane is not even a small stretch. They were flying drones with the sounds of kids crying, they've put bombs disguised as cans of food. This is not a stretch.Because a machine gun attached to a crane with duct tape 150 feet in the air shot a Palestinian from 10km away where a soldier used a string attached to the trigger , pulled it and made a world record kill where the bullet flew through six buildings and a car window. How fucken dumb can you be to believe this. Palestinians posting fake and unrealistic things are themselves in awe that you’re buying it. LOL. I think you need to show me a diagram of how this is feasible. Please and thank you.
Its just yet another application of Palantir tech.
Fine, zionism is a 19th century foreign settler colonial movement whose stated and published goals around 1906 and on were to take and colonize all of Palestine.
Those acts were carried out by terrorist gangs like Irgun, Lehi and Haganah, who later became the Israeli government. The King David hotel bombing was a precursor to the Nakba, an ethnic cleansing war that drove 700,000 Palestinians off their homeland. They poisoned wells and terrorized the population.
Since then there has been a slow campaign to wipe all of Palestine off the maps, doing as much as they thought they could get away with before losing the claim they were the victims. Now the logical conclusion of a racial supremacist, colonial settler movement is being implemented in the form of apartheid, genocide and wars to establish Greater Israel.
There is 2 fundamental questions. Please answer them for me.
1) who was there first. ? Jews or Arabs.
2) can two peoples coexist in two states side by side?
my answer to these is
1) Jews
2) yes, Jews are happy go coexists as evidenced by the existence of the West Bank and many offers and negotiations for a palestiiian state. It’s Palestinians who are always walking away from the negotiations and then resorting to terrorism. They’re all on From the River to The Sea. Or martyrdom. They don’t want two states. They only want one. Theirs.
1) who was there first. ? Jews or Arabs.
2) can two peoples coexist in two states side by side?
my answer to these is
1) Jews
2) yes, Jews are happy go coexists as evidenced by the existence of the West Bank and many offers and negotiations for a palestiiian state. It’s Palestinians who are always walking away from the negotiations and then resorting to terrorism. They’re all on From the River to The Sea. Or martyrdom. They don’t want two states. They only want one. Theirs.
Don't you forget why the holocaust happened...yes, I forgot it was people from the same country and same cultures. Where did many Jews escape to? Yes, Muslim lands and in Palestine they created mischief.
Who introduced the concert of taking a bath, no not western civilization...but middle east. Let's talk about bidet...wiping the ass clean...no, not western civilization.
AI:
Muslim civilizations, especially during the medieval period, influenced many practices and ideas that later became common in the West. Some examples include:
Mathematics: Muslim scholars preserved and expanded Greek and Indian mathematics. The Arabic numeral system (0–9) and algebra (from the Arabic word al-jabr) were transmitted to Europe through the Islamic world.
Medicine: Physicians such as Ibn Sina compiled medical knowledge into texts that were used in European universities for centuries.
Science and the Scientific Method: Muslim astronomers, chemists, and physicists made advances in observation, experimentation, and record-keeping that influenced later European scientific development.
Universities and Libraries: Major centers of learning in cities such as Baghdad and Cordoba preserved and translated knowledge that helped fuel the European Renaissance.
Commerce and Banking: Muslim merchants developed sophisticated trade networks, credit instruments, and accounting practices that influenced European commercial systems.
Everyday Products: Items such as coffee, refined sugar, and certain textiles spread from or through the Islamic world and became integrated into Western culture and consumption habits.
Overall, Muslim societies served as important centers of learning, innovation, and cultural exchange, helping transmit and develop knowledge that influenced many aspects of Western civilization.
Enjoy and stay clean, courtesy of Muslims bud
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1) simplistic and wrong - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine
2) Yes, prior to zionism Muslims, Jews, Christians and others lived together largely in peace, the way they did throughout the middle east. Zionism changed that by encouraging immigration to Palestine to colonize the country at the expense of the local Muslim and Christian populations.
