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Klatuu

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You know shit about history or the nature of the Middle East or the world for that matter. While the Palestinians have made their plight front and centre , I’m just wondering Where is your outrage for at least half a dozen other people’s who are fighting for their statehood. Examples , the Kashmir’s in India / Pakistan, The Uhgers in China, the Kurds in Syria/ Iraq, there are others.
Wow…..never heard that incredibly lame Zio tactic before! You obviously feel strong about those issues….can you point us to the threads you started on those topics?
 

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AND....he hasn't shown any outrage for what's happening to the Palestinians....he's way behind.
Not only does he not show outrage, he disparages them.
That's the thing that keeps surprising me on this board.
I'm ok with saying I voted for Carney but his policies have turned me against him and I admit he wasn't honest about how he campaigned and I was taken in.

No MAGA or zionist on the board seems willing, though some, like richaceg, are mostly hiding and ignoring these threads. Not one will say they backed Israel but killing kids is wrong, or 'I stopped supporting with the starvation' or 'the dog rape was the last straw' or 'putting random firing machine guns on cranes is too much' or 'stop attacking Lebanon and let the Iran war end'. Nothing. Nada. They just keep backing Israel no matter how shitty and how globally hated they become.
 
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For everyone that loves a Twitter reposts, here’s one that quietly reminds us of the absurdity of ignoring the obvious. LOL.
I don't know how you can argue Islam is evil when you defend a group of people calling themselves the 'chosen people' doin this kind of crap.

 

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I think you've been brainwashed to hate Muslims.
That's quite apparent in your posts.

You don't come off as much different than this.

Show me 1 of my posts that prove I hate Muslims. You can't. Saying that Muslim values aren't aligned with western values is not a hateful statement.

Now you on the other hand have displayed full on hatred of Israel and the Jewish state.
 

K Douglas

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Judeo-Christian values, what a fallacy and a joke! Epitome of ignorance and willful blindness.

No such thing exists, no compatibility between Judaism and Christianity post old testament. Double check those values and return here with sense. No more excuses for such level of ignorance...if you can type here, you can do some research on the internet 😉
A fallacy? My God you cannot be that ignorant. Guess what. Jews have been existing en masse in western countries long before Muslims have. They assimilated into the culture because they helped build said culture. Muslims didn't and many have a difficult time assimilating because they aren't aligned with our culture and values. That is a straight up fact.
 

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Frank, I don't see where Bethlehem being 80% Christian under Israeli control, and now less than 10% Christian since being under the Palestinian Authority control, supports any of your positions.

To me that suggests that under Israeli control the Christians felt welcome, but unwelcome under Islamic control.

I got to visit Bethlehem on my first trip to Israel in 1970, and a second time in 1980. The Church of the Nativity was the highlight, especially as in 1970 it was at Christmas time.

On both trips we got to also visit Nablus and Hebron.
 
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Klatuu

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Frank, I don't see where Bethlehem being 80% Christian under Israeli control, and now less than 10% Christian since being under the Palestinian Authority control, supports any of your positions.

To me that suggests that under Israeli control the Christians felt welcome, but unwelcome under Islamic control.

I got to visit Bethlehem on my first trip to Israel in 1970, and a second time in 1980. The Church of the Nativity was the highlight, especially as in 1970 it was at Christmas time.

On both trips we got to also visit Nablus and Hebron.
‘Did Palestinian Christians tell you that? Or is this just your brainwashed need to churn everything through that sad sack Zio Hasbara filter.

It took me less than 30 seconds to find Palestinian Christian voices

“In 2006, a Zogby poll that interviewed more than 1,000 Palestinian Christians from Bethlehem found that 79% of the respondents cited the Israeli occupation as source of difficulties leading the emigration of their community.[113] In the same year, the Palestinian Centre for Research and Cultural Dialogue conducted a poll among the city's Christians according to which 90% said they had had Muslim friends, 73.3% agreed that the PNA treated Christian heritage in the city with respect and 78% attributed the exodus of Christians to the Israeli blockade.[114]

The occupation is a crime against humanity and must end. Those responsible need to brought before justice.

From the river to the sea, Palestine must be free.
 
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‘Did Palestinian Christians tell you that? Or is just your brainwashed need to churn everything through that sad sack Zio Hasbara filter.

It took me less than 30 seconds to find Palestinian Christian voices

“In 2006, a Zogby poll that interviewed more than 1,000 Palestinian Christians from Bethlehem found that 79% of the respondents cited the Israeli occupation as source of difficulties leading the emigration of their community.[113] In the same year, the Palestinian Centre for Research and Cultural Dialogue conducted a poll among the city's Christians according to which 90% said they had had Muslim friends, 73.3% agreed that the PNA treated Christian heritage in the city with respect and 78% attributed the exodus of Christians to the Israeli blockade.[114]

The occupation is a crime against humanity and must end. Those responsible need to brought before justice.

From the river to the sea, Palestine must be free.
"Justice" is defined and meted out by the most powerful and exploitative.
The weak and disenfranchised are left to their own devices.
 

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Show me 1 of my posts that prove I hate Muslims. You can't. Saying that Muslim values aren't aligned with western values is not a hateful statement.

Now you on the other hand have displayed full on hatred of Israel and the Jewish state.
First, thanks for noting that my hatred is towards the state of Israel and not the Jewish people.
Second, your comment about Muslims and western values is a variation on comments about savages and civilization. Its you tarnishing an entire people and religion based on your views of them.

Its easy to show, tell us which 'Muslim values' you are specifically saying aren't aligned with western values.
 

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Frank, I don't see where Bethlehem being 80% Christian under Israeli control, and now less than 10% Christian since being under the Palestinian Authority control, supports any of your positions.

To me that suggests that under Israeli control the Christians felt welcome, but unwelcome under Islamic control.

I got to visit Bethlehem on my first trip to Israel in 1970, and a second time in 1980. The Church of the Nativity was the highlight, especially as in 1970 it was at Christmas time.

On both trips we got to also visit Nablus and Hebron.
Did you see the video that squeezer posted? It showed Bethlehem as totally walled in with all access controlled through checkpoints.
That is the source of the oppression driving Christians out of Israel.

 
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Frankfooter

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Oh gullible Frank. Ok let’s dig in a little.
That photo is of a crane doing construction. ! The assertion of mounting a machine gun on crane is absurd. How do you even do it. With duct tape. How would you aim it. How would you reload the magazines. This post is propoganda. Easily believed by haters. This came out of someone in Gaza, likely Hamas. They are masters of lies and misleading people because they know weak minds easily fall for this shit. What I don’t see you posting is the actual torture and massacres that hamas inflicts on its people. I’m talking setting people on fire , Beatings , firing squads , throwing people off roofs. I’m not exaggerating that. There lots of real posts exposing this on Twitter. Hamas is operating in the dark ages and the Palestinians are suffering for it. You ask a common man Palestinian in Gaza, who they prefer , They will tell you it’s Israel every day. People like you are straight up tools for antisemitism and propagating the expansion of socialism. Wake up!
UNICEF reported a kid shot by one of these cranes.
 
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People like you are straight up tools for antisemitism and propagating the expansion of socialism. Wake up!
LOL!...
The irony...
Throwing around accusations of anti-Semitism to smear when in fact it only renders the word more meaningless.
Accusing for criticizing the foreign policy of a murderous state, for referencing a word, created by Jews, used by Jews, to denigrate non Jews.
It means zero now, less than zero, except for those who are totally self-absorbed. tone deaf supremacists.
You're preaching to the converted, or in this case, the chosen.
 
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Klatuu

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So many on this board and the left in general actually are either ignorant of history or simply willfully blind. Well it’s time for a quick lesson.
And free to fact check me with AI.
1) the Jewish people have been living continuously in Israel / Palestine for 4000 years (I may be off a couple of hundred). They lived under their own rule and then under Roman rule at the time of Jesus. The lands were known as Judea.
2) later the name Palestine came from the Romans. They named the land Phillistine after the Phillistine people who also lived in coastal communities along the eastern Med. The Phillistines were enemies of Rome. The phillistines were not muslims as Islam did not exist at the time. Only in 600 AD did arabs begin to live there after Muslim armies defeated the Byzantine empire driving them out of the regions. Jews however still maintained a presence in the area. The name phillistine however stuck, mainly because the Roman’s kept good records.
3) centuries later , When Britain emerged with their empire , they ruled the region. The name of the area evolved into Palestine. Jews lived they’re sing with arabs. Palestine was however not a country. It did not have its own government. It was controlled and governed under British mandate. The people known as the Palestinians are actually settlers from Jordan. Jordan is actually their homeland.
4) Jews after WW2 , seaked recognition of their ancestral homeland as a country so it can act as a safe haven for Jews following the holocaust. So the holocaust could never happen again to the Jewish people because they could defend themselves as an independent country.
5) in 1947, Britain gave up is mandate and Israeli was recognized as an independent state. Many arabs lived there and that was not a problem for the Jews. Jews were happy to share the country.
6) after Israel’s founding , The arabs counties around were inflamed by its new existence and started wars against Israel’s. Israel defeated every country that was started war against it.
7) since day 1 , The mere existence of a recognized state for the Jewish people is inflammatory to some arabs. Hence the modern movement of terrorism and propoganda with the ultimate goal of getting rid of the Jews from the area entirely. It’s not about a Palestinian state existing next door Israel. The slogan from the River to the Sea says it all !
8) since it’s founding, Israel has built a modern functioning country. Palestinians had tbe same chance but it chose to focus its energy on hate and violence instead of being productive.
9) Israel though harsh in moments, strives for peace and being free from threats of destruction. The strength of its people and military is built on a simple mission of securing its future from any threat.
Very poorly educated
 
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Klatuu

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I would ask that you then enlighten me. But you can’t. I feel sorry for you that you hate history so much. 🤷‍♂️
Every accusation by a Zio is a confession
 
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