How The Left Turned On The Jews

wigglee

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"Send in spies to inflitrate" is shit you just imagined. If they could do it, they would.

Post a source which says that what you suggest is in any way remotely possible militarily.

Israel isn't killing those kids, Hamas is. By etablishing military strongpoints in hospitals and schools. Israel is going to destroy Hamas to prevent 7 October re occurring. That's the end goal and why the civilian casualties are acceptable.

Oh, and stop with the bullshit about the # of civilian casualties. No one is accepting Hamas' numbers any more - even the UN.

I'm sure they have spies (otherwise they are stupid). But they prefer ethnic cleansing to surgical maneuvers to strike Hamas
 
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shack

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We have reached the point where US politicians are backing Israel and posting antisemitic conspiracy theories to do so.
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Which conspiracy theories, Geno. How are they backing Israel with conspiracy theories and how are they anti-Semitic.
 

oil&gas

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The state of Israel was created in a spirit similar to that
of the creation of its national anthem. Founders of Israel
had to 'borrow' the melody for Hatikvah. Copy cats and land
grabbers worked hand in hand in the establishment of the
Jewish state.
 

mandrill

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I'm sure they have spies (otherwise they are stupid). But they prefer ethnic cleansing to surgical maneuvers to strike Hamas
I'm sure they have spies as well.

But your suggestion that they simply send in assassination teams to wipe out a militia of 30k gunmen in prepared defensive positions in a hostile environment is silly.

Instead of bombing Berlin and Hamburg, maybe the Allies should have sent in an assassination team to kill the entire German Army during WW2?
 

mandrill

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Good for the IDF ! I hope they smash Hamas, but without massive civilian deaths and without destroying Gaza's infrastructure (oops, too late for that).
Bear in mind that Gaza has the same population as Vancouver and you get to see individual neighbourhoods that are war zones presented in the media. I am guessing that most of Gaza is intact.

Imagine you're an IDF colonel. There's a Hamas machine gun bunker in a school down the street. You have a 2 choices. You can send your battalion to attack it head-on World War One style and get half of them killed. Or you can blow that bunker apart with a tank or an air strike from long range and take no casualties at all. What do you do?

No one picks option #1.
 

SchlongConery

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Hamas doesn't want a two state solution...And you're just going to go into foreign nations and start taking guys out?

"Hamas" is a fancy word for a bunch of radical lunatics is obsessed with the annilhation of Israel and the Jewish Nation. And wil martyr its own family members. Literally their own brothers, fathers, mothers daughters, infants ... never mind anyone of Palestinian blood. All to kill Israel and its civilization.

If a nation is to remain a civil nation, protecting its culture and people, and not run off the tracks like a train, it has to keep the riff-raff from making its decisions. The great Plato understood this, as did Socrates.
 

Frankfooter

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"Hamas" is a fancy word for a bunch of radical lunatics is obsessed with the annilhation of Israel and the Jewish Nation. And wil martyr its own family members. Literally their own brothers, fathers, mothers daughters, infants ... never mind anyone of Palestinian blood. All to kill Israel and its civilization.
I don't think that's accurate, schlong.

If you read their charter and listen to their public statements they do not sound genocidal. They have posted repeated calls for a ceasefire and support for the two state solution. There's more public statements backing genocide these days from Israelis, if you want to confirm, I'll post them. A good number are also listed in the ICJ charges as evidence.

One of the bigger issues here is that most people who are on the Israeli side, and that post was clearly on the Israeli side, refuse to accept that Palestinians deserve full human rights. Like the right to self determination, the right of return and the right to self defence. The UN Rapporteur has repeatedly stated that if you even want to talk about the right to self defence you must start with the fact that as the occupying power Israel does not have the right to self defence against the people they occupy, including Hamas. While Palestinians, under international law and just like Ukraine, have the right to self defence against an illegal occupation.

If you want to find solutions you need to start with rights and the application of the law.

Trying to demonize an entire people to call them 'radical lunatics' to justify genocide is exactly what you are accusing Hamas of doing, but you are doing it to aid the actual commission of genocide. You cannot justify genocide by saying your hate of another people makes you think they are all genocidal.

This needs to deescalate, it does not need more hate.


 

oil&gas

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Keeping climate activism outside China, India, Russia
and other non-western countries whose leaders wouldn't
be hold responsible for rising global emission by the
west is the logical thing to do. Greta and her climate
activist ilk protesting against Israel only in the parts of the
world governed by pro-Israel suckers makes even more sense.

 

Conil

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Keeping climate activism outside China, India, Russia
and other non-western countries whose leaders wouldn't
be hold responsible for rising global emission by the
west is the logical thing to do. Greta and her climate
activist ilk protesting against Israel only in the parts of the
world governed by pro-Israel suckers makes even more sense.
Cuckoo
 
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