Historian Trudy Gold speaks to Ollie about the roots and history of left wing antisemitism and hostility to Israel. From Marx to modern day.
How The Left Turned On The Jews
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I support Israel, but I don't support the anti-democratic, corrupt leadership of Benjamin Netanyahu.
I do not support Israel(Netanyahu gov't) bombing the people of Gaza into submission.
I do not support Israel(Netanyahu gov't) bombing the people of Gaza into submission.
What should have been the proper response to Oct 7th then?
Covert operations to take out Hamas leadership in Qatar (and elsewhere) which is where all the top guys are hiding. Freezing of funds and bank accounts that Hamas uses. An immediate effort to kickstart the creation of a 2 state solution, to put an end to the 75 year old conflict.
Hamas doesn't want a two state solution...And you're just going to go into foreign nations and start taking guys out?
Finding the responsible and slaughter them. But no need to slaughter all their relatives...
How is that possible when they are embedded in the population. Of which they are regarded as heroes.
I said take Hamas out so I dont think the negotiation is with them. And yes, why not? What is Israel doing now taking out innocent women and children in an act of genocide? Heck, they could use the US and negotiate for Qatar to hand over those guys to them. Anything except genocide.
It isn't possible. So you dont do it. You do something else as I outlined above.
Go after and kill the Hamas fighters and leaders, continuing to killing and starving thousands of women and children is trying wipe a group of people off the face of the Earth.
Why hasn't Netanyahu gov't been working on a two-state solution, instead of trying to insulate himself from the judiciary. Bibi is a right-wing autocrat and deserves a lot of blame, Israel needs new leadership.
His entire platform is "No Palestinian statehood". And he needs the war to save his fat ass from going to jail.
But they turned hospitals and schools into fortresses and had a tunnel network between them.
And attempt by the IDF to kill Hamas necessitates civilian casualties.
But there's no evidence that a "famine" is actually occurring. And Israel is funneling in food and humanitarian aid.
They've repeatedly stated they will accept a two state solution if that's what Palestinians want.
So the fighters who actually carried out the murders get a pass?
I actually agree with what Oracle wrote - for the first time ever.
They're not bombing the population into submission. They took out Hamas strongpoints - which were deliberately situated in hospitals, schools and civilian buildings to generate exactly the response you're making now.
Shouldn't that also apply to the Israeli leadership who are now targeting and killing way more civilians, which is the definition of terrorism?
If your version of justice is assassination if you target civilians, why does it only apply to Hamas?
You're missing the point. He's sacrificing himself for what he regards as the greater good.
Very much like the Hamas fighters reasoning behind their actions.
