Go Leafs Go!!

[Navigator24]

I haven't had any coffee to drink! "LOL"

A Sens fan!? WOW this is your year to win the cup I guess! LOL

Read my post again! I already said that the Leafs have had a shit season!!

1.) The Leafs made shity Free agent signings in the off season and except for a few players, they don’t have any talent on the team. The Sens are good, because to their credit they have drafted and traded well. But enjoy your stacked team while it lasts, because with the cap, the Sens will not be able to keep all of their talent.

2.) The Leafs are a weak, depleted team this season, myself and other Leafs fans are not denying that. Like I already said, the Sens have a small window of opportunity to win the cup with their current roster. Dominik Hasek is getting older (Yeah I know…Belfour is old too, but you never heard me say that I was a fan of his in the first place!) and they wont be able to keep all of their players.

3.) JFJ did nothing at the trade deadline…Well there is multiple reasons for that (one being that he is useless, and hopefully he will be gone at the end of the season), but the main reason, being that the Leafs where trying to make a run at the playoffs and they did not want to trade off any of their better players. Another reason is that they don’t really have the depth (trade bait) that other teams have in order to make blockbuster trades.

4.) (I think you meant to put a number 4 here…but again your intake of caffeine is in question) Have the Sens ever won the cup? Have they made it to the conference finals ever? Hmm! I think you need to calm your ass down before you go and prepare the victory parade! LMFAO

I don’t play golf myself you clown! LOL But I know that the Sens will be joining the Leafs out on the green, sooner than later!

Vengina...Did I say this is the Sens year to win the cup? No. But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money their year does come before the Laff's. "LOL".

You "already said the Leafs had a shit season"...what's that got to do with anything I said? "LOL"

You're right the Sens have a lot of talent and it will be hard to keep...WTF is your point? The Leafs are in a better spot because they don't have any talent? (Of course that's obvious when your leading scorer is Darcy (gutless) Tucker).

The Sens have a small window of opportunity to win the cup?...wrong because we've had owners that have invested in scouting, training, coaching and management in order to build a team. The Leafs strategy of trading draft picks and prospects for over paid has-beens in order to win a round in the playoffs means they don't have a window and they never will, especially now with the cap. What the fuck does a pension fund know about running a hockey team?

Point three...the real reason was nobody was interested in the crap they had to offer.

Point four...actually they did make the conference final in 2003 against New Jersey. Lost in the last seconds of game seven. It was a heartbreaker, but you were smiling like a MF, remember?

Vengina...your team sucks and it seems you are well suited to them. Hope for your sake your aspirations to be like a motherfucker this spring come true...but I wouldn't hold my breath. You hope the Sens choke in the playoffs...jealousy is an ugly emotion, but it's quite common among pathetic losers.

 

[la venganza]

Wow Vengina!! te he he he…

Vengina...Did I say this is the Sens year to win the cup? No. But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money their year does come before the Laff's. "LOL".

You "already said the Leafs had a shit season"...what's that got to do with anything I said? "LOL"

You're right the Sens have a lot of talent and it will be hard to keep...WTF is your point? The Leafs are in a better spot because they don't have any talent? (Of course that's obvious when your leading scorer is Darcy (gutless) Tucker).

The Sens have a small window of opportunity to win the cup?...wrong because we've had owners that have invested in scouting, training, coaching and management in order to build a team. The Leafs strategy of trading draft picks and prospects for over paid has-beens in order to win a round in the playoffs means they don't have a window and they never will, especially now with the cap. What the fuck does a pension fund know about running a hockey team?

Point three...the real reason was nobody was interested in the crap they had to offer.

Point four...actually they did make the conference final in 2003 against New Jersey. Lost in the last seconds of game seven. It was a heartbreaker, but you were smiling like a MF, remember?

Vengina...your team sucks and it seems you are well suited to them. Hope for your sake your aspirations to be like a motherfucker this spring come true...but I wouldn't hold my breath. You hope the Sens choke in the playoffs...jealousy is an ugly emotion, but it's quite common among pathetic losers.

Pig-fucker, the Sens best chances of winning the cup (with the current roster) are in the next few years and if they don’t….. Well they are going to have to wait a while, before they are at the same level that they are currently at.

The Leafs won’t be good for awhile, they’ll obviously have to do some rebuilding. The leafs in the past have traded away draft picks and prospects, but hopefully with some changes to the organization ie: General Manager, Coaching etc, things can be turned around.

Point four...actually they did make the conference final in 2003 against New Jersey. Lost in the last seconds of game seven. It was a heartbreaker, but you were smiling like a MF, remember?

It couldn’t have happened to a better team. The fact that you say it was a heartbreaker makes it that much better!!

You hope the Sens choke in the playoffs...jealousy is an ugly emotion

Jealous? I don’t think so! LMAO

Pig-fucka’, enjoy it while it lasts! What goes up must eventually come down. And when the Sens can’t hold onto all of their players, we’ll see what kind of team they have left!

 

[21pro]

The Leafs won’t be good for awhile,

they will be much better next season...

heard they beat Islanders 3-2...

 

[la venganza]

You think so? I don’t know, there will have to be some drastic changes made to the team next season, in order for them to compete with the better teams in the league.

 

[grguy]

They will?

they will be much better next season...

heard they beat Islanders 3-2...

What makes you think the Laffs will be better? You need a good management team to get better and the Losers don't have that. Somehow, I don't think Ferguson or Peddie will be canned. If Quinn stays, uh-oh!

 

[21pro]

i hope quinn stays... he's a good guy.

and people always show how little hockey knowledge they really have when thinking a coaching change would be the difference. the coach's role in a hockey game is grossly overrated.

a coaching change is usually only good when:

a) health prevents him from coaching
b) a midseason shock to the team will sometimes get players to play stronger... this usually fails in long term after the honeymoon period wears off...
c) to save $$$ which doesn't affect player payroll...
d) when the coach has personal matters that distract the team's focus
e) a team is grossly underachieving... currently, NO NHL team is doing that. ie, they are all where they belong...


p.s. leafs lose to Boston in shootout.

BTW Tucker took responsibility and told the fans to quit whining about the shootout- 'it's part of the game, and a part that we need to learn how to win'...

Kaberle played a damn good game.... Kilger looked like he coulda did something if he was given more ice time...

 

[grguy]

Quinn's a good guy? Possibly.

i hope quinn stays... he's a good guy.

and people always show how little hockey knowledge they really have when thinking a coaching change would be the difference. the coach's role in a hockey game is grossly overrated.

a coaching change is usually only good when:

a) health prevents him from coaching
b) a midseason shock to the team will sometimes get players to play stronger... this usually fails in long term after the honeymoon period wears off...
c) to save $$$ which doesn't affect player payroll...
d) when the coach has personal matters that distract the team's focus
e) a team is grossly underachieving... currently, NO NHL team is doing that. ie, they are all where they belong...


p.s. leafs lose to Boston in shootout.

BTW Tucker took responsibility and told the fans to quit whining about the shootout- 'it's part of the game, and a part that we need to learn how to win'...

Kaberle played a damn good game.... Kilger looked like he coulda did something if he was given more ice time...

Eloquently stated. But please show me his NHL success stories. No Stanley Cups, in all of his incarnations.

A coach's main job is to place his players in a position to beat the other team. Based on their record, he's not doing that.

 

[21pro]

which currently active and available stanley cup successor do you recommend for the leafs, then?

 

[grguy]

Stanley Cup Coach

How about Bob Gainey? Oops, he's taken. How about Scott Bowman? Or any number of ex Canadiens who have moved into management positions with various teams. How about former Oilers? Some guy named Wayne comes to mind.

If Peddie and/or Tanenbaum were smarter, and really wanted to win a Cup instead of making money, they'd be able to get someone who could walk into the dressing room and show off at least 1 Stanley Cup ring that was won in the last 20 years or so. That motivational tool has worked before.

There are few of them out there, even if 1 hasn't been spotted in Toronto in 40 years.

 

[21pro]

no doubt alot of us would drool over the chance to have any of those in leafs management or coaching. however, none are currently available and many have part ownership responsibilities with their respective clubs...

btw... he doesn't fit your requirments and he isn't available, but my current fav is Ron Wilson with San Jose, but he would never take the job with the leafs as he requires, what Quinn had to give up, the power to say who skates on the team and is the say and approver in all trades...

 

[21pro]

Florida officially eliminated from playoffs courtesy of a 4 point night by Crosby and a 5-1 loss to Pittsburgh...

Minnesota, who has 1 less point than the leafs are also officially eliminated in the west...

Leafs lose 1 game and they are next to be eliminated...

 

[A-ROD]

They were eliminated a several weeks ago...

 

[21pro]

what game do you think sealed their fate, so to speak?

was it in the first week of January, when they moved from 6th place to 8th?
more recent?
signing Alison? Lindros? O'Neil?
the re-signing of Domi?
or perhaps because Karl Pilar didn't play this season?

ok... i'm getting stupid. but i don't know when they were truly eliminated because i predicted 11th in the east way back before they started the season... i guess i just humoured myself watching it unfold.

 

[21pro]

If Peddie and/or Tanenbaum were smarter, and really wanted to win a Cup instead of making money, they'd be able to get someone who could walk into the dressing room and show off at least 1 Stanley Cup ring that was won in the last 20 years or so. That motivational tool has worked before.

either the Peddie/Tanner duo are brilliant, or you haven't followed much hockey recently... there are/were leaf members with stanley cup rings... there were stanley cup winners brought in by this duo and some were dealt away with, too.

i imagine the teachers pension fund won't be too happy with the low profits the leafs will bring in should they not make playoff gravy...

 

[A-ROD]

what game do you think sealed their fate, so to speak?

was it in the first week of January, when they moved from 6th place to 8th?
more recent?
signing Alison? Lindros? O'Neil?
the re-signing of Domi?
or perhaps because Karl Pilar didn't play this season?

ok... i'm getting stupid. but i don't know when they were truly eliminated because i predicted 11th in the east way back before they started the season... i guess i just humoured myself watching it unfold.

I think there were 2 games that showed what typified the Leafs season.
The first was the 8-0 loss to the Senators on Oct 29 and the December 3 game when they gave up a 3-1 lead and loss 5-4 to the Sharks. Not to mention the 8-2 and the 7-0 losses to the Sens.
The Sens losses showed that they were not able to compete against a top level team and the loss to the Sharks, if I remember correctly showed they had little heart and even less motivation... my opinion.

 

[21pro]

December 3 game when they gave up a 3-1 lead and loss 5-4 to the Sharks. ... the loss to the Sharks, if I remember correctly showed they had little heart and even less motivation... my opinion.

no doubt they'd failed many times this season to rise to the occassion.

it's pretty bad when the season highlights where the media scopes the leafs as playing good when only they won a game against troubled buffalo and beat slumping carolina and philadelphia... (even the penguins have beat these teams this year.)

the leafs didn't even have to turn around... they were in 6th place in the east...

some examples of good turnarounds this season:

Pittsburgh Penguins tied for #1 power-play since Michel Therrien became head coach...
San Jose #1 record in the nhl since Jan.1st... and nhl's least penalized team and #1 penalty kill in the west since Jan. 1st...

 

[the_big_E]

here's an interesting stat; or not:

The Leafs are a miserable 4 for 25 during shootouts this year!

 

[21pro]

leafs over philly 5-2...

any comments? i didn't watch.

both atlanta and tampa won, so no ground gained...

 

[kirmit129]

what game do you think sealed their fate, so to speak?

Come on! It's definately the back to back defeat at the hands of the Canadiens. 2 losses in back to back nights. The 2 games were not even close.

That, IMHO, was the back breaker...

 

[21pro]

probably true, kirmit... had they won....

but i think what a-rod and myself are thinking is that the leafs never did have the team to do it this season. ie, they never had a team that could beat montreal in march 2 games straight... and thus, they don't have a team that should be in the playoffs...