Those resources are stretched thin already and the other thing I've heard mentioned is the 'healthy' homeless people should get jobs. What portion of the homeless population do you think would qualify as healthy? Very few I would suspect. These people need help first and a job second and putting the cart in front of the horse isn't going to accomplish anything. Almost nothing is being done to help these people because we have a war to win in the Ukraine and are funding new comers to the tune of $100,000 a year per person so it's no mystery as to why there is nothing left for good old Canadian born citizens.
DoFo the tone deaf asshat
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Quick search shows that anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2 of homeless people have addiction or mental health issues. So probably safe to assume that many are healthy.
I agree we need to take care of our own first and control immigration when there are no concrete plans for where to house them.
But in reality, that's not happening under this federal government. They have spent a decade creating a problem and have left it to everyone else to figure out a solution.
I'm sure it's higher than that but what about physical health? Go to work with pneumonia? Go to work and stand on an ankle that was broken and never healed properly? Like I said, if they had help first and work second I think there would be many more previously homeless people successfully integrating back into the work force. Doug Ford also has the same contempt for people on welfare and disability. He has no sympathy for peoples needs and views them as less than and treats them as such.
Pales into comparison with how the FreeDumb Truckers brought their kids for weeks at a stupid protest in Ottawa!! Wonder whether he was that vocal about involving the children then?
We're talking about healthy people.
Ford also said healthy people. Not people with disabilities or illnesses.
Right. Like I said what percentage of that population is actually healthy enough to work? 10-20%? Now the problem becomes how does one determine who is and isn't healthy enough to work? Spend millions doing a study or individual assessments? How would the ford government propose we implement this forced labor? Just seems like another failure of an idea.
Based on stats, I would say closer to 30-40%. That's a significant number considering homeless estimates for Toronto alone are 10,000+.
Who decides if they're healthy to work are the people themselves. It's not forced labour. It's about encouraging those that can work, to do so.
If someone determines that they are not healthy, or don't even know they are unhealthy (ie mental illness) then they obviously won't try to get a job.
But for those that know they can, then they should.
I think there are a lot of ways to motivate the homeless population to work if they are capable to do so but basically implying that they are lazy isn't one of them and that's essentially the approach he has taken.
Isn’t there a difference between what parents should be allowed to teach their kids versus what the government should be allowed to teach them when parents are not looking?
This article does a good job at summarizing some of the challenges homeless people face on a daily basis. Unless you've experienced this situation it's difficult to contemplate what life is like day to day and I would imagine the cold weather only makes those challenges even harder.
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/con...cle_b6dd2784-7ab8-11ef-ae05-eb3b0a7df129.html
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/con...cle_b6dd2784-7ab8-11ef-ae05-eb3b0a7df129.html
Bver has traded in his freedom & democracy card a long time ago...prefers that the government controls every aspect of his life.
Sometimes people need to hear the cold hard truth and it was obvious it was directed at those who are healthy and capable.
If you're healthy & capable then the only thing preventing you from improving your life is you. Relying on the government to hold you by the hand is not something anyone should aspire to.
This past summer I drove by a small encampment in a park and there were some young people playing lawn darts and chasing each other around with squirt guns and a couple were drinking beer. I also noticed two of them holding phones taking pics.
This was an encampment not just people playing in a park.
Make that make sense.
Like I said before the government is doing practically nothing to help them improve their lives. If you're homeless and get a job paying minimum wage guess what? You are still going to be homeless. What about offering them a supplement to their income so that working would actually lead to you having a home. Because working for minimum wage is just going to keep you homeless so I can definitively see the lack of incentive. If the homeless were treated the same way we treat newcomers we would likely have very few homeless but they are treated as disposable citizens so we can focus and bringing in more immigrants. Make that make sense.
This past summer I drove by a small encampment in a park and there were some young people playing lawn darts and chasing each other around with squirt guns and a couple were drinking beer. I also noticed two of them holding phones taking pics.
This was an encampment not just people playing in a park.
I would call that trying to still feel human and making the best of a bad situation. Would you have been happier to see them sitting in a circle and crying?
What for weeks on end, as opposed to a single day? Especially when these protests were noisy, with honking in the nights, plus violence at times!! What messages and morals are they ingraining into their kids heads?
I agree more should be done with domestic issues and treated like new immigrants and that immigration should be better controlled.
Working minimum wage jobs were never meant to be more than supplemental income or temporary.
Drinking beer and taking pics from a cell phone tells me they were choosing to enjoy the encampment life. That was my point. Somehow they have money for a phone and beer but can't apply for a job?
More on the costs of being homeless for the poor.
Yeah, it's always party-hearty time at those homeless encampments.
I mean, the incentive to be homeless is just too tempting to refuse, eh Skoob?
Hopefully the Thug is a fan of chain gangs, huh
Imagine all that cheap/free labor he could provide for his developer and private interest puppet masters
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I'm expecting his next idea is to forcefully recruit the homeless as tunnel diggers for his next big failure
Did they all have the new iphone 16 plus? Did they have a 24 of stella artois and a bottle of patron? Everybody has a cellphone. Mine is $120 brand new. Begging out front of the liquor store until you have $3-6 and grabbing a couple of tall boys is hardly living the high life. I don't drink but if I had to deal with the misery of homelessness I would definitely be drunk as often as possible to deal with the turmoil. It's pretty obvious you are judging them for not being miserable, which I have a hard time understanding.
