DoFo the tone deaf asshat

mandrill

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There are simply too many people driving around the downtown and inner core that really do not need to be driving around there at fuckin all. vering

How many Uber/Lyft vehicles are just hovering around for hours. Thousands, tens of thousands.

How many vehicles are

So, how's the car is king culture and politics that is the cause of congestion working out for you?

This is what you see when you're driving:

Cars, cars, cars, trucks, trucks, trucks, motorized single occupant vehicles taking up every square centimeter of pavement, all vying and fighting with each other for every square millimeter pavement ahead and to the sides of ech other.

This is not going to change unless the culture and politics that created, sustained and maintains it does.

And the thing is, is that you know it.
Except that's not going to happen in Toronto and you and your buddies are idiots for not realizing that. Toronto is 80% post 1960's suburbs. You need a car to get around.

Toronto transit is a sad joke compared to European cities. How many subway stations does London have?..... I used to live there. London is a compact city with no burbs and 7 or 8 times the # of subway stations that Toronto has. Everybody uses transit in London. It's far more sensible than using cars.

It's taken Toronto a fucking decade to run a RT line along Eglinton. There's no RT line on Lawrence. Or York Mills. Or Finch east of Yonge. Or Steeles. It's impossible to get the transit coverage in Toronto that you get in London. Toronto is too spread out and not people-dense enough.

Your post are basically just rants about how much you hate cars. The cars aren't going away. They can't be replaced in the GTA. So every shabby little trick your buddies do to drive cars out of Toronto just means that the same number of cars drive along fewer and fewer streets. So you ding-dongs produce the sort of gridlock that has fucked Toronto over the last 5 years since you put your dumb ass plan into effect.

What I told you several threads ago. I don't drive downtown. I transit - or walk because Toronto transit is so fuck awful shitty - from Ossington and Dundas to the court complex downtown. People drive to get in and out of downtown because they need to get to Mississauga. Or Mimico. Or Whitby. Because that's where they fucking work!
 

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Except that's not going to happen in Toronto and you and your buddies are idiots for not realizing that. Toronto is 80% post 1960's suburbs. You need a car to get around.

Toronto transit is a sad joke compared to European cities. How many subway stations does London have?..... I used to live there. London is a compact city with no burbs and 7 or 8 times the # of subway stations that Toronto has. Everybody uses transit in London. It's far more sensible than using cars.

It's taken Toronto a fucking decade to run a RT line along Eglinton. There's no RT line on Lawrence. Or York Mills. Or Finch east of Yonge. Or Steeles. It's impossible to get the transit coverage in Toronto that you get in London. Toronto is too spread out and not people-dense enough.

Your post are basically just rants about how much you hate cars. The cars aren't going away. They can't be replaced in the GTA. So every shabby little trick your buddies do to drive cars out of Toronto just means that the same number of cars drive along fewer and fewer streets. So you ding-dongs produce the sort of gridlock that has fucked Toronto over the last 5 years since you put your dumb ass plan into effect.

What I told you several threads ago. I don't drive downtown. I transit - or walk because Toronto transit is so fuck awful shitty - from Ossington and Dundas to the court complex downtown. People drive to get in and out of downtown because they need to get to Mississauga. Or Mimico. Or Whitby. Because that's where they fucking work!
You want faster commutes? Buy a bike.
Or argue for free transit, more funding and more maintenance so it works.

Bikes take way less space. Get bikes off the streets and you'll end up with more uber drivers slowing you down.
 

Frankfooter

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I agree, he is not tone deaf.

He knows WHO his voters are.

He is the puppet of developers and private interests who is a "yeah Thug, we see right thru your folksy, common sense bullshit" populist.

It's "we don't need an early election that will once again throw hundreds of millions of dollars in the garbage" time folks!
DoFo is a model nepo baby.
He was born into office, riding on the popularity of his father than his crackhead brother.

He's never worked a day in his life.
 

james t kirk

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Ford.wont lose a single vote over bike paths or homeless guys who don't want to work.

In fact, he will probably pick up votes.
 

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If they did, they may not need to live in a tent anymore. But you're right, it's better they stay in the tents. For the people who live off human misery.
I hope you end up living in a tent someday so you can tell how easy it is.
 

Leimonis

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Except that's not going to happen in Toronto and you and your buddies are idiots for not realizing that. Toronto is 80% post 1960's suburbs. You need a car to get around.

Toronto transit is a sad joke compared to European cities. How many subway stations does London have?..... I used to live there. London is a compact city with no burbs and 7 or 8 times the # of subway stations that Toronto has. Everybody uses transit in London. It's far more sensible than using cars.

It's taken Toronto a fucking decade to run a RT line along Eglinton. There's no RT line on Lawrence. Or York Mills. Or Finch east of Yonge. Or Steeles. It's impossible to get the transit coverage in Toronto that you get in London. Toronto is too spread out and not people-dense enough.

Your post are basically just rants about how much you hate cars. The cars aren't going away. They can't be replaced in the GTA. So every shabby little trick your buddies do to drive cars out of Toronto just means that the same number of cars drive along fewer and fewer streets. So you ding-dongs produce the sort of gridlock that has fucked Toronto over the last 5 years since you put your dumb ass plan into effect.

What I told you several threads ago. I don't drive downtown. I transit - or walk because Toronto transit is so fuck awful shitty - from Ossington and Dundas to the court complex downtown. People drive to get in and out of downtown because they need to get to Mississauga. Or Mimico. Or Whitby. Because that's where they fucking work!
Also if I may mention, our winters are not like in Amsterdam or Copenhagen.
Until climate change fixes this little issue, those bike lanes are barely usable half of the year.
is that a good use of space?
 
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jimidean2011

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I hope I don't. That's my number one reason for having a job. Pussy is a distant second.
Everyone that's currently homeless 'hoped' it wouldn't happen to them too but since you think it's no big deal you seem like a good candidate to show the world how easy it is to come back from.
 

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You want faster commutes? Buy a bike.
Or argue for free transit, more funding and more maintenance so it works.

Bikes take way less space. Get bikes off the streets and you'll end up with more uber drivers slowing you down.
Frank, do you know why one should never play chess with a pigeon?
 
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jimidean2011

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When did I say it's no big deal? It's a really big fucking deal. That's where the job comes in.
Well it sure seems like you're making light of the situation. No one wants to be homeless and getting out of that situation is no easy fix. It's not as simple as just getting a job or I'm sure lots of the homeless population would have done so because like I said, no one wants to be homeless.
 

bazokajoe

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Have you tried living in a tent? Have you tried living in a tent in the dead of winter? And then tried to wake up, get yourself together, hoped on public transit, traveled across the city, tried to focus on the task at hand while you are wondering what percentage of your belongings will still be there when your shift is over? Please tell me you've done this already before saying that. Let me guess, you haven't done it but you're just imagining how easy it would be in your head and it seems really easy?
Sooner or later they need to stop being a lazy ass and get their shit together.
People need to take responsibility for themselves. Stop relying on other people to carry them.

If they don't want to take that first step to get out of that tent, then that's on them.
You can't help someone who can't help themselves.
Enjoy the winter in a tent.
 

Butler1000

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Also if I may mention, our winters are not like in Amsterdam or Copenhagen.
Until climate change fixes this little issue, those bike lanes are barely usable half of the year.
is that a good use of space?
In Toronto? More like about 8 months. I bought an E-Bike a few months ago. Already am getting close to 2000km on it. I will amortization it's cost in about 10 months of usage vs public transit.

My commute time vs TTC I save an hour. GO train maybe 15 minutes. Car take about half the time.

Cost to commute. About 0.05$ per commute. And I charge at work(with permisson) so that's per day.

Is it perfect solution? Of course not. It's now a large part of my transport now. Including short errands and the like. And the #1 reason I went for it was a bike path route covering city streets, park paths and separate lanes that made it much safer.

E-bikes will be game changers with the scooters.
 

Leimonis

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In Toronto? More like about 8 months. I bought an E-Bike a few months ago. Already am getting close to 2000km on it. I will amortization it's cost in about 10 months of usage vs public transit.

My commute time vs TTC I save an hour. GO train maybe 15 minutes. Car take about half the time.

Cost to commute. About 0.05$ per commute. And I charge at work(with permisson) so that's per day.

Is it perfect solution? Of course not. It's now a large part of my transport now. Including short errands and the like. And the #1 reason I went for it was a bike path route covering city streets, park paths and separate lanes that made it much safer.

E-bikes will be game changers with the scooters.
I dunno I like using bike paths too but I’m not comfortable biking when it’s raining or snowing. I could do it if I had to but I’d rather not 🤷‍♀️
 

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Also if I may mention, our winters are not like in Amsterdam or Copenhagen.
Until climate change fixes this little issue, those bike lanes are barely usable half of the year.
is that a good use of space?
You've never ridden a bike in Toronto, have you?
Lots bike through the snow, but even if you don't you've usually got 11 months of biking weather here each year.
 

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He’s 100% correct.
Also hoping his legislation passes so we can stop removing valuable car lanes in favour of bike lanes that are used by a small handful during favourable weather conditions.
But he won't remove the existing car lanes like he said he would.
 

roddermac

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I don’t think he’s tone deaf. He knows who the voters are. He’s standing on a construction site where that company is probably dying for a labourer. An able-bodied man can do that job if they stay off the drugs and booze.
Is that why his brother never worked in construction.
 

Leimonis

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I agree, he is not tone deaf.

He knows WHO his voters are...
He knows that those who are disciplined enough to get their ass to voting booth are likely disciplined enough to have a job. And they hate supporting those who doesn’t work.
Also 905ers hate bikes or at least don’t care for bikes on city streets.
so yeah he knows who his voters are.
 

Butler1000

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I dunno I like using bike paths too but I’m not comfortable biking when it’s raining or snowing. I could do it if I had to but I’d rather not 🤷‍♀️
Hence the Go Train option. But I expect to get in 18-19 of my monthly commute days in on the bike for 8 months I don't bike in bad weather either and first sign of ice I'm done for the season unless a warm weather stretch appears.

I bought good all weather gear, over jacket and pants. Waterproof and wind breaker and oversized to accommodate layering.
 

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But are they living in a tent while they're doing it or a cushy hotel provided by the government?
You mean the government is bringing in more people than we can accommodate and giving them preference over people who are already here?
 
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