Do you believe in privilege? White privilege, etc?

[Jenesis]

The numbers are getting interesting.

Yes was winning hard yesterday but no is now creeping up.

For those saying no - do you want to join the discussion and explain why you have this opinion?

 

[Brill]

The numbers are getting interesting.

Yes was winning hard yesterday but no is now creeping up.

For those saying no - do you want to join the discussion and explain why you have this opinion?

My guess is that white male Canadians who don’t see they are born privileged are the same who rage about being victims when they get turned down for anything.

 

[Dcoat]

The numbers are getting interesting.

Yes was winning hard yesterday but no is now creeping up.

For those saying no - do you want to join the discussion and explain why you have this opinion?

I voted "no", not because there is no evidence that people grant privilege (making untrue assumptions in order to give unearned advantage to individuals). Rather, I see these kinds of questions as making assumptions about outcomes in order to advocate universal fixes to restructure the social world.

Relationships are complex, not simple 1 demential. Muslims may not be given housing as easily as christians (for example) because they are not "us", whatever "us" means in the context. Thats a universal behaviour. blacks prefer blacks, Pakistani's prefer Pakistani's, feminists prefer feminists, and Leafs fans (if there are any) prefer Leafs fans. The reasons are also complex and deeply engrained in us because of our "self-preservation", genetic leanings. We make many unconscious and some conscious judgements about levels of safety and desirability in every moment not only about people but our environment as a whole.

Additionally, simply because there's a preference does not mean outsiders are never given access. Each identity group has a barrieier for entry to outsiders. So pointing at 8 or 9 underprivileged groupings is very inaccurate, IMHO.

So my vote was less about the question and more about the assumptions, which are admittedly difficult to sort through. in this kind of poll.

 

[IM469]

There are unfair privileges independent of your skin colour, social standing, religion, etc.

What's with this 'women and children first' privilege ????

 

[Danny46709394]

As I always say, being able to live in a safe and stable country alone is a privilege, and we all took it for granted.

 

[y2kmark]

Religions won't exist in probably 25-50 more years. More and more people are realizing that they are man made. I had one growing up but I'm agnostic now. The younger generations are leaving them behind even faster.

Sure, agnostics don't have to tithe or anything....

 

[y2kmark]

There are unfair privileges independent of your skin colour, social standing, religion, etc.

What's with this 'women and children first' privilege ????

When the chips are down men are supposed to be brave, more tradition than anything...

 

[y2kmark]

I voted "no", not because there is no evidence that people grant privilege (making untrue assumptions in order to give unearned advantage to individuals). Rather, I see these kinds of questions as making assumptions about outcomes in order to advocate universal fixes to restructure the social world.

Relationships are complex, not simple 1 demential. Muslims may not be given housing as easily as christians (for example) because they are not "us", whatever "us" means in the context. Thats a universal behaviour. blacks prefer blacks, Pakistani's prefer Pakistani's, feminists prefer feminists, and Leafs fans (if there are any) prefer Leafs fans. The reasons are also complex and deeply engrained in us because of our "self-preservation", genetic leanings. We make many unconscious and some conscious judgements about levels of safety and desirability in every moment not only about people but our environment as a whole.

Additionally, simply because there's a preference does not mean outsiders are never given access. Each identity group has a barrieier for entry to outsiders. So pointing at 8 or 9 underprivileged groupings is very inaccurate, IMHO.

So my vote was less about the question and more about the assumptions, which are admittedly difficult to sort through. in this kind of poll.

I read your approach to logic and think - Isn't torture banned under international law?

 

[y2kmark]

My guess is that white male Canadians who don’t see they are born privileged are the same who rage about being victims when they get turned down for anything.

Or when they have to take any action for the public good vs. their own self interests. Paying taxes is the best example I can think of at the moment...

 

[y2kmark]

Not at all. And I will add that the discussion is going great. There is no fighting. Just talk. This is what I was hoping for and it is going wonderfully.

Lolacle is gonna kvetch, just his nature...

 

[y2kmark]

Loved that sketch, perfect sendup on "passing for white"...

 

[y2kmark]

I wish you can find that article.

Please explain # 7 "IE"

I agree # 8 it should be part of the list and add... LAST NAME. Yes there are societies / countries that discriminate against peoples' last name.

And also Religion or Any apparel that represent Religion or culture background will be judge against a person unless they are smart enough to leave it behind at home.
Height matters as other have mentioned.
Looks, how you dress and your face for sure matter.
And also accent/ voice. Man I work with some Asians that sometimes I have to ask for a repetition/ clarification, mind you these people are on the floor job position not office. Sometimes is not that they didn't learn the English language properly its just their origin language gives them difficulty, it gets in their way, or tongue twister and if they have a physical ailment and it can become harder. But they do their work properly and sometime above the line.

In the end society will always judge, it's part of the DNA. WE can only learn to managed it by will power. Some Stripper told about book written in 1912 stating that humans have not changed mentally.

Last name? Just change it to Smith or something. Everyone has the privlege of going by whatever name they want...

 

[Bagilson]

Religions won't exist in probably 25-50 more years. More and more people are realizing that they are man made. I had one growing up but I'm agnostic now. The younger generations are leaving them behind even faster.

In 20-50 years you’ll have your choice of being Muslim, Chinese, Indian or dead.

 

[peetscoffee]

In 20-50 years you’ll have your choice of being Muslim, Chinese, Indian or dead.

Religion is for old people. Younger generations have Google on their finger tips and when the "Big Questions" pop up in their head, they google it, compare it to what their parents taught them (Religion) and discard it fairly quickly once they realize it was all man made. The answer is, no body knows.

 

[Darts]

I believe in magic.
The Lovin' Spoonful "Do You Believe In Magic" on The Ed Sullivan Show - Bing video

 

[y2kmark]

Religion is for old people. Younger generations have Google on their finger tips and when the "Big Questions" pop up in their head, they google it, compare it to what their parents taught them (Religion) and discard it fairly quickly once they realize it was all man made. The answer is, no body knows.

Religion takes a big hit ifs it turns out the answer to life, the universe and everything really is 42...

 

[y2kmark]

The numbers are getting interesting.

Yes was winning hard yesterday but no is now creeping up.

For those saying no - do you want to join the discussion and explain why you have this opinion?

One thing you may not have considered is that some of the righties on TERB have more than one handle...

 

[Darts]

India is more of a Seik country actually... so good assumption.

India is mostly Hindu followed by Muslims and then Sikhs.There were many more Muslims (descendants of Muslim invaders) prior to partition.

 

[Anbarandy]

I've experienced the white privilege. Once, when.I was swinging the shovel in 40°C, the foreman noticed that I was at the point of passing out. He said- here white boy- as he handed me a smaller shovel.

"Swinging the shovel .."?

What type of actual, real worker "swings a shovel" except maybe a make believe one?

You swing an axe, a pick and sledge hammer to get some real work done. Swinging a shovel does shit all to get any real work done, you have to stick it somewhere first!


OK, now that we got that straight, which one of these two is you:

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

One thing you may not have considered is that some of the righties on TERB have more than one handle...

As do some Lefties