And the conspiracy theories that liberals are the real autocrats. I don't see liberals pushing laws about mentioning LGBTQ+ people or the negative side of American history.
Denying Holocaust Will be Illegal
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Is it worth pointing out (again) that this law is not making it illegal to hate people; just to deny that systemic campaign of the Nazis to exterminate Jews, gays, Roma, etc?
So would you say the graph represents a real drop in incidents against Muslims or just happy to not be bothered with the truth?
And as always you need to irrationally work your obsession with Israel into a discussion of anti-semitism. Nothing in the law says you can't continue your campaign, just don't publicly promote the idea that the nazis didn't systematically butcher Jews etc.
Arguing that the events didn't happen or that Jews weren't specifically targeted for death because of their religion is denial. Researching whether it was 4, 5 or 6 million Jews killed is not what's being discussed.
And there may be many cases where Jews don't report either. Sure it's possible that recent Muslim immigrants that came from authoritarian countries may be more hesitant to go to the police but we can only work with the data we have. You seem to prefer to assume reality instead.
Could it because a government campaign that most likely meant to allow most Ukrainians to starve is a step below lining up people and gassing them on the evil-o-meter?
And I believe that when schools teach about genocide, they use a whole bunch of examples, not just the Holocaust.
I think we need to get to the truth. Saying minority X has the most complaints when they are well established and well represented in the legal system is mischaracterizing the magnitude of the problem on one side and minimizing it on the other. So we are possibly focusing on the wrong problem. Saying the data may be bad but we will go with it is not a good approach.
It allows people to sue the teachers for even mentioning anything that suggests some people have sexual or gender identities other than straight. They can even be sued for letting a kid mention their two moms.
That is authoritarianism through lawsuit and just a quarter step from having people report their neighbours to the stasi.
So commission a study (the Canadian government has).
The saddest thing is that you completely missed the part where I have clearly condemned all of these hatreds.
Why is it you think it is wrong to specifically criticize acts of hatred against Jews? Were you not aware that there were also government acts specifically condemning hatred against Muslims?
We should be able to tell kids that yes, some people in the class may have two moms or two dads or that some may have trans/non-binary parents.
You sound like that alt-right pretending that kids are being taught to be gay.
Pretending that gays and trans etc. do not exist will mean that they don't. at least in the bizzarro world of todays GOP. And there is no racism or sexism and Covid is a hoax. It is 1950 again. I could go on but you get my drift.
So if a kids school mate has two moms or two dads they should be as confused as a republican at a science fair ?
yet you started this discussion saying Y has more complaints without evidence while complaining about a law about hatred. As I said, we have already had a bill condemning islamophobia. Why do you think it wrong to have a bill that explicitly mentions anti-semitism?
So you approve of mentally ill men in dresses reading to strangers children at schools and libraries and showing them their Frankfooter? You'd probably slip 20 bucks into Desmond is Amazing's thong too. This thread is sad but enlightening. We need to call in the nukes on ourselves.
I believe someone is a little weasel who tries to coax others into saying things on here so that they can cry to the mods.
It is in fact. They are trying to make it a binary issue. That means black and white. Numbers and how they were killed, or that it was the worst atrocity in Human history while not appropriate water cooler talk, should be open to examination.
They don't teach any genocidal examples anything like they push the Holocaust. In schools, Hollywood, you name it. You realize using terms like "most likely meant to allow" if applied to the Holocaust would be a crime now. Hypocrite much?
I object to accusers being able to profit off their accusations and to be anonymous while doing so. Ezra Levant goes into some detail in a video about bill c-36 and the penalties before jail time are from what I recall a 20k fine, of which the "victim" gets some. I get that Ezra can be a bit much for some, but you can watch or peruse if you wish.
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