Denying Holocaust Will be Illegal

[shack]

I believe someone is a little weasel who tries to coax others into saying things on here so that they can cry to the mods.

It's actually a very simple question based on what you've written. Why am I a weasel because I ask your opinion? In fact, you are the one who tried to weasel out of answering my question.

You are obviously ashamed to state your opinion. I guess with you being afraid to answer, the logical assumption is that you believe that the government is wrong when they assert that the Holocaust actually happened and want to protect the truth. At least we can all finally agree that that is what you believe.

I have no interest in reporting anything to the mods regarding this. Exposing what your true character is to the TERB population is sufficient.

 

[wigglee]

You cannot legislate truth. It must remain open to discussion and debate, based on evidence. Pretty soon , it will be illegal to call John A. MacDonald sir.

 

[jacksparrow]

It's actually a very simple question based on what you've written. Why am I a weasel because I ask your opinion? In fact, you are the one who tried to weasel out of answering my question.

You are obviously ashamed to state your opinion. I guess with you being afraid to answer, the logical assumption is that you believe that the government is wrong when they assert that the Holocaust actually happened and want to protect the truth. At least we can all finally agree that that is what you believe.

I have no interest in reporting anything to the mods regarding this. Exposing what your true character is to the TERB population is sufficient.

I'm not weaseling out of anything and you are exposing nothing in regards to my character aside from the fact that I can easily recognize a coward who is nowhere near as clever as he thinks he is. You know the point of my previous argument was not whether or not an event occurred but to point out that not agreeing 100 percent with a narrative should not constitute a crime.
You are the one who should be ashamed with regards to who you are and how you conduct yourself as a man.

 

[Frankfooter]

So you approve of mentally ill men in dresses reading to strangers children at schools and libraries and showing them their Frankfooter? You'd probably slip 20 bucks into Desmond is Amazing's thong too. This thread is sad but enlightening. We need to call in the nukes on ourselves.

I have no idea how this got so far off topic, but I haven't also heard anyone discuss LGTBQ as 'mentally ill' in decades.

 

[shack]

I'm not weaseling out of anything and you are exposing nothing in regards to my character aside from the fact that I can easily recognize a coward who is nowhere near as clever as he thinks

The coward is someone who is afraid to answer a simple question.

You are against the gov't passing this legislation because "sometimes gov'ts make mistakes". Are they making a mistake with asserting that the Holocaust definitely happened?

 

[basketcase]

It is in fact. They are trying to make it a binary issue. That means black and white. Numbers and how they were killed, or that it was the worst atrocity in Human history while not appropriate water cooler talk, should be open to examination.

Bullshit. Please quote the part of the law that says academics can't research the Holocaust.

 

[basketcase]

They don't teach any genocidal examples anything like they push the Holocaust. In schools, Hollywood, you name it. You realize using terms like "most likely meant to allow" if applied to the Holocaust would be a crime now. Hypocrite much?

When was the last time you were in a school? My 11 year old nephew has informed me about the Holocaust, Armenian genocide, Rwanda, and our history with the indigenous.

Your choice of language makes it seem like your anger is because you want to deny that the Holocaust was an systematic plan to murder Jews, Roma, gays, and the disabled.

 

[basketcase]

You cannot legislate truth. It must remain open to discussion and debate, based on evidence. Pretty soon , it will be illegal to call John A. MacDonald sir.

You can criminalize people who ignore the truth to promote ethnic hatred.

 

[Frankfooter]

You can criminalize people who ignore the truth to promote ethnic hatred.

Hmm, perhaps we should petition the government about Nabka deniers.

 

[basketcase]

Hmm, perhaps we should petition the government about Nabka deniers.

Speaking of promoting ethnic hatred, we have your obsessive inability to condemn anti-semitism without trying to shift the topic to your anti-Israel crusade.

BTW. Who denies that the Arab-Israeli wars harmed civilians and caused people to flee and a much lesser number of people to be forced out on both sides? The Nakba was part of a war that the Arab and Palestinian leadership as well as the Israeli leadership were heavily involved in and resulted in similar number of Arab Jews from being ethnically cleansed from their homes yet you pathetically want to pretend it was the same as Nazis putting Jews (etc) on trains to the gas chamber.

 

[Frankfooter]

Speaking of promoting ethnic hatred, we have your obsessive inability to condemn anti-semitism without trying to shift the topic to your anti-Israel crusade.

BTW. Who denies that the Arab-Israeli wars harmed civilians and caused people to flee and a much lesser number of people to be forced out on both sides? The Nakba was part of a war that the Arab and Palestinian leadership as well as the Israeli leadership were heavily involved in and resulted in similar number of Arab Jews from being ethnically cleansed from their homes yet you pathetically want to pretend it was the same as Nazis putting Jews (etc) on trains to the gas chamber.

See, you're denying that the Nabka was ethnic cleansing and instead blaming Palestinians for a 'war'.
Are you any different?

 

[jacksparrow]

I have no idea how this got so far off topic, but I haven't also heard anyone discuss LGTBQ as 'mentally ill' in decades.

Are you describing yourself as lgbtq because so far I've only described the characters below and their apologists (or outright indulgers) like yourself as mentally ill.
This is wrong... Period.

https://www.cbc.ca/arts/toronto-drag-duo-fay-and-fluffy-are-a-beacon-of-light-for-young-hearts-and-minds-1.5451353

 

[jacksparrow]

The coward is someone who is afraid to answer a simple question.

You are against the gov't passing this legislation because "sometimes gov'ts make mistakes". Are they making a mistake with asserting that the Holocaust definitely happened?

Let's be honest Shack. You've been a coward your whole life. Giving the holocaust special treatment over any of the many other genocidal events in history is a more than a mistake, it is wrong and unfair. Condoning, or downplaying the Potato famine, Holodomor and Armenian Genocide are ok though huh? Do you think asking questions is downplaying what happened and should be punished the same as celebrating it or out right denying it of which I have done neither?
Quit being such a dishonest punk in how you frame arguments.

 

[jacksparrow]

When was the last time you were in a school? My 11 year old nephew has informed me about the Holocaust, Armenian genocide, Rwanda, and our history with the indigenous.

Your choice of language makes it seem like your anger is because you want to deny that the Holocaust was an systematic plan to murder Jews, Roma, gays, and the disabled.

Interesting how all the genocides involving white people were excluded. I'm sure your nephew will grow up well adjusted being taught white guilt at such a young age and having a creepy uncle who takes him to drag queen story time. Jeez.

 

[jacksparrow]

Bullshit. Please quote the part of the law that says academics can't research the Holocaust.

What and who constitutes an academic and why should they be the only ones trusted to present facts about anything? Should CNN and CBC be the only ones allowed to present the news?

 

[jacksparrow]

You can criminalize people who ignore the truth to promote ethnic hatred.

Instead the government enables people to be dishonest about the truth to profit and label anyone who questions that as promoting ethnic hatred. Read the Holocaust Industry by Norman Finklestein.

 

[jcpro]

our fascist PM has nothing on Orban, it would seem- except that.lefties love him.

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[Frankfooter]

Are you describing yourself as lgbtq because so far I've only described the characters below and their apologists (or outright indulgers) like yourself as mentally ill.
This is wrong... Period.

https://www.cbc.ca/arts/toronto-drag-duo-fay-and-fluffy-are-a-beacon-of-light-for-young-hearts-and-minds-1.5451353

Is that supposed to be an insult?
Calling gay people 'insane'?

You need to come out of the closet and admit your love of unicorns.

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[jacksparrow]

Is that supposed to be an insult?
Calling gay people 'insane'?

You need to come out of the closet and admit your love of unicorns.

'It's Okay To Be A Unicorn' Comes Under Fire In Ohio School District

Author Jason Tharp said a school principal told him last week that he could no longer read his book at a local school event.

www.huffpost.com

Says the pedo who's retort then attempts to imply I'm a closeted gay as an insult. Pretty weak and hypocritical but no shock. I never called gay people insane, but I think people like you who downplay or want to normalize pedophilia should be locked up. People like you MAPS ( your new acronym minor attracted persons) will not be accepted by the lgbt community and I'm sure they don't appreciate you associating them with your mental illness.

 

[basketcase]

See, you're denying that the Nabka was ethnic cleansing and instead blaming Palestinians for a 'war'.
Are you any different?

I'm glad you are trying to check off yet another point on Canada's definition of anti-semitism.


Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:

• Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
• Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
• Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
• Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
• Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
• Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
• Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
• Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
• Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
• Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
• Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

Another on that list is your double standard, consider Arabs fleering a war to be ethnic cleansing but don't want to discuss Jews forced at gunpoint out of lands the Jordanian army conquered or the million Jews chased or forced out of their homes in Arab countries.

And sorry but words have meanings. You can pretend the war (declared by the Arab leaders BTW.) was ethnic cleansing but that is belied by the fact that around a quarter of Arabs in Israeli lands chose to stay and became full citizens.

And as typical, you feel the compulsive need to avoid talking about anti-semitism and instead try to change the topic to you Israel obsession (which quite clearly fits Canada's definition of that very hatred).