Denying Holocaust Will be Illegal

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basketcase

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Let's be honest Shack. You've been a coward your whole life. Giving the holocaust special treatment over any of the many other genocidal events in history is a more than a mistake...
Being stuck in your own views about the Holocaust obviously doesn't let you see the fact that you are making up your own fantasy.
 

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Interesting how all the genocides involving white people were excluded. I'm sure your nephew will grow up well adjusted being taught white guilt at such a young age and having a creepy uncle who takes him to drag queen story time. Jeez.
Interesting that you get caught making up shit and then instantly jump to trying to play the victim while making ad hominin attacks.
 

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What and who constitutes an academic and why should they be the only ones trusted to present facts about anything? Should CNN and CBC be the only ones allowed to present the news?
Please quote what part of the law prohibits academic research into the Holocaust? Oh that's right, it isn't. Many people who make statements like yours simply believe that Jews are lying about the Holocaust and using it to their advantage for some nefarious reason.

Instead the government enables people to be dishonest about the truth to profit and label anyone who questions that as promoting ethnic hatred. Read the Holocaust Industry by Norman Finklestein.
Wow, I called that one.
 

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Let's be honest Shack. You've been a coward your whole life. Giving the holocaust special treatment over any of the many other genocidal events in history is a more than a mistake, it is wrong and unfair. Condoning, or downplaying the Potato famine, Holodomor and Armenian Genocide are ok though huh? Do you think asking questions is downplaying what happened and should be punished the same as celebrating it or out right denying it of which I have done neither?
Quit being such a dishonest punk in how you frame arguments.
Coward. Weasel. Now punk. And accusing Frank of being a pedophile. In the meantime:

Do you believe that the Canadian gov't is wrong when they assert that the Holocaust undeniably happened. Still waiting for a straight answer even though there is no reason for you to keep dodging.
 

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Coward. Weasel. Now punk. And accusing Frank of being a pedophile. In the meantime:

Do you believe that the Canadian gov't is wrong when they assert that the Holocaust undeniably happened. Still waiting for a straight answer even though there is no reason for you to keep dodging.
You keep bending statements and thinking you are Perry Mason. I've never said it didn't happen. You are the one who dodges my retorts. Quit embarrassing yourself.
 

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Coward. Weasel. Now punk. And accusing Frank of being a pedophile. In the meantime:

Do you believe that the Canadian gov't is wrong when they assert that the Holocaust undeniably happened. Still waiting for a straight answer even though there is no reason for you to keep dodging.
Frank pretty well declared himself one. Do you agree with Franks views? Do you get excited watching Drag kids on cbc too?
 

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Being stuck in your own views about the Holocaust obviously doesn't let you see the fact that you are making up your own fantasy.
My own fantasy. Sure. Again you don't dispute any of the points I made. Truth is my fantasy would be to meet you in person.
 

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Please quote what part of the law prohibits academic research into the Holocaust? Oh that's right, it isn't. Many people who make statements like yours simply believe that Jews are lying about the Holocaust and using it to their advantage for some nefarious reason.



Wow, I called that one.
Did I say anything about academics not being allowed to do any research? Your strawman attempts are pathetic. Why are you ignoring Norman Finklestein you antisemite.
 

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You keep bending statements and thinking you are Perry Mason. I've never said it didn't happen. You are the one who dodges my retorts. Quit embarrassing yourself.
I'm not bending anything. I just keep asking the same question over and over because you refuse to answer.

Just like now, you're telling us what you didn't say. What do you say as far as an answer to my question? Is Canada's right or wrong on their position on the Holocaust. Are you convinced that it undeniably happened?
 

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I'm glad you are trying to check off yet another point on Canada's definition of anti-semitism.
  • Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
Ah, the IHRA definition of antisemitism. An Israel attempt to shut down debate on Israeli apartheid by claiming its antisemitic to criticize Israeli state policy.
By the way, your post is antisemitic.
You refuse to acknowledge that Palestinians/Israeli Arabs in Israel should have the same rights as Jews in Israel, including the right to self determination.
Palestinians are semites.

Not to mention there is no double standard in requiring all countries to not practice apartheid.

 

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My own fantasy. Sure. Again you don't dispute any of the points I made. Truth is my fantasy would be to meet you in person.
I'm still waiting for you to provide any backing for the claims you have made.


And I'm sure you would love to meet me. You'd get a chance to see what a real human looks like.
 

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Did I say anything about academics not being allowed to do any research? Your strawman attempts are pathetic. Why are you ignoring Norman Finklestein you antisemite.
So you admit the bill has absolutely nothing to say about academic studies. Are simply upset that one of the white-supremacist talking points could now result in criminal charges?
 

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Ah, the IHRA definition of antisemitism. An Israel attempt to shut down debate on Israeli apartheid by claiming its antisemitic to criticize Israeli state policy.
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Canada's official definition that explicitly states:
"However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. "

Your problem is the same as Capt' Jack, you don't like that the Canadian government calls out anti-semitism. The fact that both of you devolve to accusing other of antisemitism shows how closely you world views overlap.
 

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Canada's official definition that explicitly states:
"However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. "

Your problem is the same as Capt' Jack, you don't like that the Canadian government calls out anti-semitism. The fact that both of you devolve to accusing other of antisemitism shows how closely you world views overlap.
This is also on that definition:
Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.”

So while the state of Israel has a basic law that specifically denies the right of self determination to Palestinians they turn around and say that reporting Israel as apartheid is 'claiming the state of Israel is racist'.
Which would meant that the 25% of American Jews and 46% of those living under Israeli rule who say Israel is apartheid are 'antisemitic' according to the IHRA definition.

Which leaves you arguing that only Jews deserve the right of self determination while arguing that everyone else is racist.
 
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This is also on that definition:
Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.”
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Exactly. You keep demanding a Palestinian right of self determination but reject the 80% Jewish majority in Israel having that option (that BTW is supported by the vast majority of the other 20%). Just one of many of the statements from Canada's definition of anti-semitism you tick off.

Despite your transparent elitism, neither Palestinians nor Israelis desire the One State peace you want them forced into. Self determination means the people involved should have input in their futures, not that they have to listed to an egotistical westerner telling them what they need to do.
 

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Exactly. You keep demanding a Palestinian right of self determination but reject the 80% Jewish majority in Israel having that option (that BTW is supported by the vast majority of the other 20%). Just one of many of the statements from Canada's definition of anti-semitism you tick off.
Israeli Jews already have the right of self determination enshrined in law while Palestinians are legally forbidden this basic human right.
All you're doing is complaining that I'm not cheering for a racist, apartheid application of the right of self determination?

You realize that apartheid is the only one step down in evil from genocide on the list of racist crimes against humanity, don't you?
Somehow you think that your defending apartheid is somehow proving that its me that's racist.
 
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