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Dangerous Delta COVID-19 Variant Infecting Vaccinated Adults In Israel

canada-man

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You cant spread cancer. You can spread covid.

You need to stop looking at bad websites. The lagal arguments are there to allow employers, schools and others to impose restrictions on the non vaccinated. And they will.

I don't have covid i cannot spread a disease i don't have. if you are so fearfull stay home and lock yourself down don't impose your fear on the public
 

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I don't have covid i cannot spread a disease i don't have. if you are so fearfull stay home and lock yourself down don't impose your fear on the public
How do you know, have you had a PCR test so we can all know for sure?
 

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Employers can certain stipulate that new hires be vaccinated. Not the currently employees but most certainly anyone new.
A company must protect and provide a safe working environment. If employees do not feel safe because they have an anti-vaxxer in their midst, the employer must act. As an employer, you can reassign the POS and make his/her life miserable. This is harder to do in a unionized work environment but easily done in the private sector.
 

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I don't have covid i cannot spread a disease i don't have. if you are so fearfull stay home and lock yourself down don't impose your fear on the public
You could be asymptomatic. Pre symptom. In about 10 days I'm second dose complete. As will 80% of the population.

Once we have that we can lock down the ant vaxxers.
 

Valcazar

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Not another one minimizing the effect of Covid? Another one saying Covid is just a "flu"?
It is not Black Plague but it's by far THE WORST PANDEMIC in our generation.
Even though the death toll is no where near those in the past - but remember that now we have all the modern medicine that has kept many alive this time round.
Even by death toll, I'm pretty sure it is the third-worst since 1900.
- Spanish Flu
- HIV
- COVID-19

To be fair, if you go by population percentage, it is possible one of the mid-20th century flu pandemics still beats it. but I don't think so.

Actually... pretty much the same thing... It shows in the USA the states who confined hard and the ones who didn't had a similar curve.
Basic per capita rate of infection and death in the US was about 2.5x that of Canada. That the pattern of the curve was similar isn't a great argument.

Some measures were alright like putting plastic glasses in front of cashiers but tons of measures were useless or down worst.
Given what we now know, the plastic shielding in front of cashiers was basically useless if they were indoors in uncirculated air.

Peoples that wanted to meet did it anyway. Curfew may have made it harder for some peoples to meet later but peoples found way around.
Yes, that an "honour system" approach probably didn't actually change behavior much and most people just made their own risk assessments anyway does seem to be the case both here and elsewhere.
When Texas "opened up" earlier this year, they found that basically no one changed their behavior. Mandates and guidance have limited effects after a certain point and there is a lot of behavioral inertia.

The only thing that i am semi agreeing on having closed are bars, because they are the type of place where peoples get drunk and party and you cross with a lot of strangers. But restaurants, cinema etc, that was totally overkill.
Indoor dining at restaurants has been shown to be high risk (bars are worse, of course). Again - closed space, uncirculated air, long exposure add up to a bad combination.

Everytime there was a protest outside there was no major eclosions, yet TONS of peoples very close to each other wich prove outside is not really risky at all.
There has been an absolutely ridiculous amount of restriction on outdoor activities even as the data rolled in showing the risks there are in general quite low. I agree.

I think if you are talking about asymptomatic spread stats you also need to include presymptomatic spread stats. Ie anyone who is not showing symptoms but capable of spreading it anyway.
That's not what presymptomatic means. It just means you aren't showing symptoms now but develop them later. People who are truly asymptomatic (infected but never develop symptoms) really do seem to not transmit the virus effectively. People who are presymptomatic (they feel fine now but a couple of days later come down with symptoms) seem to transmit the virus quite a bit. That long presymptomatic infectious period has been a major problem with COVID-19.
 
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Valcazar

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I have received just about every vaccine you could think of, but I will not take a Covid shot.
Let's explore this.
Do you mean "I won't get the mRNA shot" or are you literally saying you will not take any shot developed against COVID-19?
 

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You could be asymptomatic. Pre symptom. In about 10 days I'm second dose complete. As will 80% of the population.

Once we have that we can lock down the ant vaxxers.

bullshit there is no such thing. i recently did a physical i have zero covid

and again the health care consent act outlaws forced medications and forced vaccines
 

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It is not fear. It is responsibility. But you would not get that.
it is fear. fear is expect people around you to disclose thier vacination statusand imposing thier fears on them. fear is expecting the puvlic to submit to year fears by lockdowns and restrictions.



you and you alone is responsibility for your health. if you fear covid stay homeand lock down yourself

I am don'e playing the "we are in this together" bullshit
 

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A physical cannot detect asymptomatic Covid, unless you go for a Covid test.

PCR tests are unreliable




“if someone is tested by PCR as positive when a threshold of 35 cycles or higher is used (as is the rule in most laboratories in Europe and the US), the probability that said person is infected is less than 3%, and the probability that said result is a false positive is 97%.”


 

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PCR tests are unreliable
Absolutely not true.

As of August 15, 2020, PHO Laboratory detected possible false positive SARS-CoV-2 results on approximately 30 occasions among over 850,000 specimens tested for COVID-19, with ~17,500 (approximately 2%) specimens testing positive. This represents a false positivity rate of less than 0.01% (specificity of >99.99%), which is well beyond performance targets for a laboratory test.


“if someone is tested by PCR as positive when a threshold of 35 cycles or higher is used (as is the rule in most laboratories in Europe and the US), the probability that said person is infected is less than 3%, and the probability that said result is a false positive is 97%.”
This are many types of PCR tests and they cannot be compared.
For Tests done in Ontario, please read Cycle Thresholds - Public Health Ontario
TL;DR - PCR test done by Public Health Ontario is very accurate with very low false positive.
 

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Absolutely not true.

As of August 15, 2020, PHO Laboratory detected possible false positive SARS-CoV-2 results on approximately 30 occasions among over 850,000 specimens tested for COVID-19, with ~17,500 (approximately 2%) specimens testing positive. This represents a false positivity rate of less than 0.01% (specificity of >99.99%), which is well beyond performance targets for a laboratory test.



This are many types of PCR tests and they cannot be compared.
For Tests done in Ontario, please read Cycle Thresholds - Public Health Ontario
TL;DR - PCR test done by Public Health Ontario is very accurate with very low false positive.

I don't trust Lying Public Health who admitted last year to inflating covid deaths



Dr Yaffe Ontario Deputy Chief Health Officer admitted that PCR tests have at least 50%false positives



and recently Manitoba's Chief Microbiologists admitted under oath in court of law said the same thing about PCR tests


 

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it is fear. fear is expect people around you to disclose thier vacination statusand imposing thier fears on them. fear is expecting the puvlic to submit to year fears by lockdowns and restrictions.



you and you alone is responsibility for your health. if you fear covid stay homeand lock down yourself

I am don'e playing the "we are in this together" bullshit
You are not playing anything and haven’t been since the beginning. You are not together in this. WE are. That is number 1.

Number 2 - it is not fear. It is responsible. As a business owner I have the responsibility to ensure a safe working environment, that means no vaccination - you mask, work alone and isolated. Period. EOD

Number 3 - Canada as a responsibility to ensure a save living environment and they have done so.

It is not fear. That is your catch all word as if it is going to change peoples mind. OMG - CM said I’m afraid so to prove to him I’m not, I’m not going to get the vaccine! LMAO. Fuck off with that shit.

It is responsibility and nothing else. You can try to change the wording all you want but reality it what it is and just because you don’t play in that reality sandbox, doesn’t mean others don’t.

I’m thankful that Canada as a whole, along with myself and other business owners, can come together and ensure a safe space for all. Including you. We are making it safer for you even if you don’t participate. With herd immunity, we won’t have to worry about disgusting selfish people like you.

PS since you edited your post - no. I’m not staying home anymore. I’m doing my part. You don’t want to participate, you stay the fuck home. That is basically going to be your only option anyways. You don’t have the “right” to come into my business without either being vaccinated or masked. I’m one of thousands of businesses that have the same right to refuse you. So looks like you got the shitty end of this stick and I’m laughing all the way to my vacation out of country in a few weeks!!!!!
 

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bullshit there is no such thing. i recently did a physical i have zero covid

and again the health care consent act outlaws forced medications and forced vaccines
Lol. You and your kind lost the battle. We will have 80+% herd immunity by the end of the month. Then we can open up and start to deal with the likes of you.

Workplaces will restrict you, international travel will restrict you. We will hem in and identify you as to be shunned and quarantined. After 15+ months the majority are sick of you. We want our lives back. And we arent going to let you and your stupidity stop us.
 

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Lol. You and your kind lost the battle. We will have 80+% herd immunity by the end of the month. Then we can open up and start to deal with the likes of you.

Workplaces will restrict you, international travel will restrict you. We will hem in and identify you as to be shunned and quarantined. After 15+ months the majority are sick of you. We want our lives back. And we arent going to let you and your stupidity stop us.
deal with the likes of me? is that some kind a threat? what will you do when people like start fighting back

my workplace does not require covid jabs and and recently hire new people without covid jab requirements

vaccine passports are failing. Singapore recently decide to treat covid 19 as a season flu, the U.K recently dropping the idea. many states across the U.S are banning vaccine passes and passports, many countries around the world don't require corona vaccine passports.
 

Butler1000

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deal with the likes of me? is that some kind a threat? what will you do when people like start fighting back

my workplace does not require covid jabs and and recently hire new people without covid jab requirements

vaccine passports are failing. Singapore recently decide to treat covid 19 as a season flu, the U.K recently dropping the idea. many states across the U.S are banning vaccine passes and passports, many countries around the world don't require corona vaccine passports.
Lol. The EU just instituted a system for all 27 nations plus a few more. Britain's system is up and running. What ever news site you are using is lying to you. The next few months will see more of this. Western nations will require it to stop spread for other ones.

Deal as in give you a choice. Vaccinate or be restricted. The virus will continue to mutate. Soon the real cause of spread will be identified as you and people like you.
 

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Lol. You and your kind lost the battle. We will have 80+% herd immunity by the end of the month. Then we can open up and start to deal with the likes of you.

Workplaces will restrict you, international travel will restrict you. We will hem in and identify you as to be shunned and quarantined. After 15+ months the majority are sick of you. We want our lives back. And we arent going to let you and your stupidity stop us.
I think that when things fully re-open, covid may be treated like other viruses such as the flu rather than be given any special privilege. Now that the majority have "herd immunity" either naturally or via the vaccine, the impact of covid will be relatively benign moving forward. Media will stop counting cases (which tells us nothing about how many people are actually feeling sick). Without such reporting it's out of sight, out of mind for the general populace. Covid is here to stay and we will live with it a majority vaccinated (or intermittently boosted), like we do with the flu.
 
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