Dangerous Delta COVID-19 Variant Infecting Vaccinated Adults In Israel

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I am not surprised at all. Canadians come together when needed. All the time. This is no different.

Sucks that you hate our government so much. That is a crappy way to live. I don’t trust everything and they are people so they make mistakes, but for the most part Canada is fucking awesome. I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else. I feel we were taken care of and much better then many countries in the world.

I am a proud Canadian
I absolutely hate what they did to us during this issue. And i hate that we are STILL under crazy restrictions with 77 daily cases (Quebec). Lots of States have drop the mask mandate ions ago. All restrictions are gone.

I used to be say Quebec was the best place to live, i always loved my province... but what the CAQ did is outrageous and it made me want to live somewhere else. I mean we STILL can't eat in a restaurant without having to dox ourselves. Its crazy how these things been accepted like its ok. Governement control is NOT ok.

As for making mistakes, when they are mistakes ok, but when they are deliberate and just made to look good, its not ok. The CAQ still refuse a private investigation on what happened in the CHSLD where tons of deaths were.
 

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Not another one minimizing the effect of Covid? Another one saying Covid is just a "flu"?

This is not called "docile and submissive", it's called responsible and not being selfish.
Covid IS NOT FLU. Flu never overwhelmed our hospitals and ICUs.

Vaccination is not about yourself, it's also about protecting family and friends.
As long as there is a large group of unvaccinated people, the outbreaks would happen from time to time.
Not so true. In 2018 Flu got the hospitalization system to go on the brink of overhelming. In every flu season our fragile system show its limit, so of course as soon as a more deadly version of it would show it was meant to happen. Canada/Quebec hospitalization system been crap for years. Covid may not be a "flu" on a technical standpoint , its a different form of virus, but it has similar symptoms and attack the weak/old. If anything there is more chances to die from flu for a kid than covid...

Vaccination may be about protecting others like you say, but "others" can be vaccinated themselves and be protected. Personally yes i am thinking about me first and not wanted some experimental stuff injected in me until im sure its totally safe and nesscessary.

At the point we are at right now, we need to accept living with covid like we accept that car crashes are part of life and will kill peoples every year. We can't put our lives on hold for 10 years. Going for 16 months now its been too long already. The governement has abuse this "emergency state", there is no emergency anymore.
 

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Not so true. In 2018 Flu got the hospitalization system to go on the brink of overhelming. In every flu season our fragile system show its limit, so of course as soon as a more deadly version of it would show it was meant to happen. Canada/Quebec hospitalization system been crap for years. Covid may not be a "flu" on a technical standpoint , its a different form of virus, but it has similar symptoms and attack the weak/old. If anything there is more chances to die from flu for a kid than covid...
Imagine what would have happened under the COVID pandemic without the lockdowns and other measures to contain the spread.
 
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I absolutely hate what they did to us during this issue. And i hate that we are STILL under crazy restrictions with 77 daily cases (Quebec). Lots of States have drop the mask mandate ions ago. All restrictions are gone.

I used to be say Quebec was the best place to live, i always loved my province... but what the CAQ did is outrageous and it made me want to live somewhere else. I mean we STILL can't eat in a restaurant without having to dox ourselves. Its crazy how these things been accepted like its ok. Governement control is NOT ok.

As for making mistakes, when they are mistakes ok, but when they are deliberate and just made to look good, its not ok. The CAQ still refuse a private investigation on what happened in the CHSLD where tons of deaths were.
That is your opinion.

Either move or vote differently. Doesn’t matter much to me.

But seems like you like to air your grievances so have it.

I don’t feel the same way and am probably happier for it.
 
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Imagine what would have happened under the COVID pandemic without the lockdowns and other measures to contain the spread.
Actually... pretty much the same thing... It shows in the USA the states who confined hard and the ones who didn't had a similar curve. Some measures were alright like putting plastic glasses in front of cashiers but tons of measures were useless or down worst.

We had no mask from March to July 18 in Quebec, they introduced them at 50 cases a day in the middle of summer. Yet cases has rise during flu seasons ... masks didn't do anything.

Peoples that wanted to meet did it anyway. Curfew may have made it harder for some peoples to meet later but peoples found way around.

Its been proven mask or no mask there was barely any spread in stores.

The only thing that i am semi agreeing on having closed are bars, because they are the type of place where peoples get drunk and party and you cross with a lot of strangers. But restaurants, cinema etc, that was totally overkill.

Everytime there was a protest outside there was no major eclosions, yet TONS of peoples very close to each other wich prove outside is not really risky at all.

Anyway...

Jenesis, you can be sure my votes are going to Bernier and Duhaime (Quebec) at the next elections. I know they won't win but ill do my part.
 
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Actually... pretty much the same thing... It shows in the USA the states who confined hard and the ones who didn't had a similar curve. Some measures were alright like putting plastic glasses in front of cashiers but tons of measures were useless or down worst.
I think you have some wishful thinking going on there. Our curve progress, the one that matters, definitely was interrupted by the restrictions.

 

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Actually... pretty much the same thing... It shows in the USA the states who confined hard and the ones who didn't had a similar curve. Some measures were alright like putting plastic glasses in front of cashiers but tons of measures were useless or down worst.

We had no mask from March to July 18 in Quebec, they introduced them at 50 cases a day in the middle of summer. Yet cases has rise during flu seasons ... masks didn't do anything.

Peoples that wanted to meet did it anyway. Curfew may have made it harder for some peoples to meet later but peoples found way around.

Its been proven mask or no mask there was barely any spread in stores.

The only thing that i am semi agreeing on having closed are bars, because they are the type of place where peoples get drunk and party and you cross with a lot of strangers. But restaurants, cinema etc, that was totally overkill.

Everytime there was a protest outside there was no major eclosions, yet TONS of peoples very close to each other wich prove outside is not really risky at all.

Anyway...

Jenesis, you can be sure my votes are going to Bernier and Duhaime (Quebec) at the next elections. I know they won't win but ill do my part.
Wow, talk about creating your own world of facts. Interesting and Bernier is for the folks who believe in nonsense so, perfect choice.
 

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I think its some of you who are believing everything you see on the news. But whatever.

As for Bernier he is the only one on a federal level to be against the overkill measures.
A lot in the PPC have some very far right views on many topics. Be careful you don’t trade one bad political party for another worse one.
 

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Even the Conservatives want nothing to do with Bernier. He's a loose cannon and a dimwit. He couldn't even maintain his own seat. He's going nowhere fast because most folks want public safety to be first on the list. It's why thankfully Trump lost the election next door but hey, let's not let reality ruin the discussion.
 
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I think its some of you who are believing everything you see on the news. But whatever.

As for Bernier he is the only one on a federal level to be against the overkill measures.
Il be doing my part with Bernier as well. Canada needs their Desantis.

A lot of people cant accept their core beliefs being challenged (that masks arent nearly as effective as they think, asymptomatic spread is below 1%, and our lockdowns were major overkill that did fuck all and were a net negative), it would obliterate everything theyre virtue signalling about. Funny that pro lockdown and vaxxed ppl I kno were also out there getting black market haircuts and their nails done, smells like a hypocrite.
 
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A lot of people cant accept their core beliefs being challenged (that masks arent nearly as effective as they think, asymptomatic spread is below 1%, and our lockdowns were major overkill that did fuck all and were a net negative), it would obliterate everything theyre virtue signalling about.
I think if you are talking about asymptomatic spread stats you also need to include presymptomatic spread stats. Ie anyone who is not showing symptoms but capable of spreading it anyway.

At the beginning of the pandemic, people avoided symptomatic people as much as possible. It was common sense. People were getting sick at exponential rates anyway, which is one of the factors that made COVID so dangerous.
 

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I am not in agreement with everything that Bernier says or do. I have a very different view than him on climate for instance. But i agree with him on some subject and right now i don't see any other party as being better. O'Tool does not seem too bad but he is new and i need to see more of him before i make my mind on him. Trudeau and Sing are terrible.

"Public safety" ... whats public safety to be fair? If it mean living like hermits avoiding contacts with everyone for years in fear of a virus that has in the 0.something chance of killing you than i guess ill rather live dangerously. I got more chance of dying everytime i get in a car than by covid...

Trump losse because he is Trump. Thats as simple as that. He had so many haters for various things way before covid. He speak harsh and never got easy on anything. Even if i would had personally vote for him twice if i live in the US i can't say that at times i didn't taught some sh!t he said was too much. I don't agree on everything he says either, like Bernier. But honestly there was never a political party i would see myself being even 75% all agreeing with. I never understood those peoples going at rally and being fans of political parties. For me it was always picking the lesser crap out of the bunch....

But now i feel more motivated than ever to vote because i want to "vote with my wallet" if i can say even tough its not a $ situation. You know when you don't like a product and you simply don't buy it, like a bad video game, you vote with your wallet, it fail and that tell the devs to do better next time. Its kinda like that, i want to vote for the ones who defended us against the sanitary tyranny. Show support cause they earned it.
 
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Not exactly voting with your wallet when no matter what you are still paying taxes to which ever government is in power.

You guys can all go PPC, won’t matter. He won’t win.

I know O’Tool. He is from Whitby. He is not too bad. But he ain’t gonna win either.

 
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Trump losse because he is Trump. Thats as simple as that. He had so many haters for various things way before covid. He speak harsh and never got easy on anything. Even if i would had personally vote for him twice if i live in the US i can't say that at times i didn't taught some sh!t he said was too much. I don't agree on everything he says either, like Bernier. But honestly there was never a political party i would see myself being even 75% all agreeing with. I never understood those peoples going at rally and being fans of political parties. For me it was always picking the lesser crap out of the bunch....
Biden's entire campaign was focused on dealing with COVID, Trump's entire view on COVID was that it would magically go away and went full throttle on campaigning focused on opening up the economy. Denying Covid is in reality what did him in because he lost the centre-right vote along with pushing DEMS to the polls in mass.
 
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Not so true. In 2018 Flu got the hospitalization system to go on the brink of overhelming. In every flu season our fragile system show its limit, so of course as soon as a more deadly version of it would show it was meant to happen. Canada/Quebec hospitalization system been crap for years. Covid may not be a "flu" on a technical standpoint , its a different form of virus, but it has similar symptoms and attack the weak/old. If anything there is more chances to die from flu for a kid than covid...

Vaccination may be about protecting others like you say, but "others" can be vaccinated themselves and be protected. Personally yes i am thinking about me first and not wanted some experimental stuff injected in me until im sure its totally safe and nesscessary.

At the point we are at right now, we need to accept living with covid like we accept that car crashes are part of life and will kill peoples every year. We can't put our lives on hold for 10 years. Going for 16 months now its been too long already. The governement has abuse this "emergency state", there is no emergency anymore.
We will have Herd immunity in about 7 weeks. At that point we can open up and only restrict the unvaccinated.

Denial of employment, travel privileges, school attendance etc will be important to stopping further spread.
 

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We will have Herd immunity in about 7 weeks. At that point we can open up and only restrict the unvaccinated.

Denial of employment, travel privileges, school attendance etc will be important to stopping further spread.
One restriction would get the amigos here to go on mass to get jabbed.

All escort agencies and rub n tugs demand all clients prove they are fully vaccinated. OH MAN, the cries and stampede to a vaccination centre would be huge! LMFAO
 

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We will have Herd immunity in about 7 weeks. At that point we can open up and only restrict the unvaccinated.

Denial of employment, travel privileges, school attendance etc will be important to stopping further spread.
So you are willing to break the law to impose your paranoid delusions. My rights does not end where your fear begins. And my health info is NONE of your business.
 
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