Dangerous Delta COVID-19 Variant Infecting Vaccinated Adults In Israel

Jenesis

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Lol. The EU just instituted a system for all 27 nations plus a few more. Britain's system is up and running. What ever news site you are using is lying to you. The next few months will see more of this. Western nations will require it to stop spread for other ones.

Deal as in give you a choice. Vaccinate or be restricted. The virus will continue to mutate. Soon the real cause of spread will be identified as you and people like you.
Exactly. Each person still has a choice. I don’t agree with forcing the vaccine into people but that doesn’t mean you are welcome to participate in luxuries and privileges outside of your already mandated rights.

You don’t have a right to enter any other country but your own. No country has to accept an unvaccinated traveller.
 

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Of course the people that took the useless vaccines are angry that they got nothing (other than health risks) for taking them.

They’re lashing out at the unvaxxed because we didn’t get conned like they did.
 

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Lol. The EU just instituted a system for all 27 nations plus a few more. Britain's system is up and running. What ever news site you are using is lying to you. The next few months will see more of this. Western nations will require it to stop spread for other ones.

Deal as in give you a choice. Vaccinate or be restricted. The virus will continue to mutate. Soon the real cause of spread will be identified as you and people like you.
virus mutates so what? get over it

Saskatchewen recently say there will be no vaccine pass in the province. most of Canada is opening up

stay home and lock yourself down if you are so scared off living in an open society
 

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Of course the people that took the useless vaccines are angry that they got nothing (other than health risks) for taking them.

They’re lashing out at the unvaxxed because we didn’t get conned like they did.
ditto
 

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Lol. The EU just instituted a system for all 27 nations plus a few more. Britain's system is up and running. What ever news site you are using is lying to you. The next few months will see more of this. Western nations will require it to stop spread for other ones.

Deal as in give you a choice. Vaccinate or be restricted. The virus will continue to mutate. Soon the real cause of spread will be identified as you and people like you.
Can you tell me what makes a virus or bug vaccine resistant or antibiotic resistant?

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I think some of you guys are going insane. The propaganda got so deep in your head that you see peoples who don't want an experimental rushed developed vaccine has "bad guys"

First of all the language, you always say "anti-vaxx" with Xs because thats the degatory (im sure im pronouncing it wrong there but english ain't my first language) term used by the peoples that militate hard for it.

I am not anti vaccines, i am against taking a vaccine that was developed way too fast in a rush and that i don't know the long term effect. Look yesterday someone saw me mentioning im not interested in it and start sending me all kind of crazy conspiracy thing like that there is a chip in the vaccine by Bill Gates and other nonsense like that. I want no part in that. Im not into conspiracy stuff.

I just look at the + and the - and came into conclusion that at my age and physical condition, i do not need a vaccine so early in developement for something that has almost a 0 risk of killing me.

Eventually the mask mandate will be removed, and seriously Jenesis i don't know wich type of business you own but if you really have a doorman checking vaccination cards at the entry then ill be more than happy to simply not give you or others like you my business. You think all stores will filter peoples at the entry? Almost every stores i was going at didn't required or used the mask before it became mandate. I can tell you as soon as it drop, im sure 95% of stores won't force it anymore. They only do to obbey regulations.

Like i already said i don't care about not traveling, other countries are not my business, but Canada is and i won't tolerate a segregation in it for such a pitifull reason.
 
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Eventually the mask mandate will be removed, and seriously Jenesis i don't know wich type of business you own but if you really have a doorman checking vaccination cards at the entry then ill be more than happy to simply not give you or others like you my business. You think all stores will filter peoples at the entry? Almost every stores i was going at didn't required or used the mask before it became mandate. I can tell you as soon as it drop, im sure 95% of stores won't force it anymore. They only do to obbey regulations.
I was speaking of employees. Not customers. I would never, sorry. I thought I was clear because we were only speaking about employer/employees at the time.

But all customers will wear masks for in-person consult or service and all employees will were mask for all hands on customer related work.
 

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Can you tell me what makes a virus or bug vaccine resistant or antibiotic resistant?

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Mutations incubate in people. The more vaccinated peoole the less chance it has to mutate. You really are ignorant and uneducated.
 

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virus mutates so what? get over it

Saskatchewen recently say there will be no vaccine pass in the province. most of Canada is opening up

stay home and lock yourself down if you are so scared off living in an open society
Not any more. We will find ways to lock you down instead.
 

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I think some of you guys are going insane. The propaganda got so deep in your head that you see peoples who don't want an experimental rushed developed vaccine has "bad guys"

First of all the language, you always say "anti-vaxx" with Xs because thats the degatory (im sure im pronouncing it wrong there but english ain't my first language) term used by the peoples that militate hard for it.

I am not anti vaccines, i am against taking a vaccine that was developed way too fast in a rush and that i don't know the long term effect. Look yesterday someone saw me mentioning im not interested in it and start sending me all kind of crazy conspiracy thing like that there is a chip in the vaccine by Bill Gates and other nonsense like that. I want no part in that. Im not into conspiracy stuff.

I just look at the + and the - and came into conclusion that at my age and physical condition, i do not need a vaccine so early in developement for something that has almost a 0 risk of killing me.

Eventually the mask mandate will be removed, and seriously Jenesis i don't know wich type of business you own but if you really have a doorman checking vaccination cards at the entry then ill be more than happy to simply not give you or others like you my business. You think all stores will filter peoples at the entry? Almost every stores i was going at didn't required or used the mask before it became mandate. I can tell you as soon as it drop, im sure 95% of stores won't force it anymore. They only do to obbey regulations.

Like i already said i don't care about not traveling, other countries are not my business, but Canada is and i won't tolerate a segregation in it for such a pitifull reason.
You do realize PEI is doing it now right? They require proof of Vaccination to enter the island. People are tired of excuses. And yes we look down on you and your ilk. You are selfish and dangerous. If we can't shake the Delta or a new variant shows up only in the anti Vaxxers yes you will be lumped in and blamed.

And hopefully restricted until you smarten up.
 

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I think that when things fully re-open, covid may be treated like other viruses such as the flu rather than be given any special privilege. Now that the majority have "herd immunity" either naturally or via the vaccine, the impact of covid will be relatively benign moving forward. Media will stop counting cases (which tells us nothing about how many people are actually feeling sick). Without such reporting it's out of sight, out of mind for the general populace. Covid is here to stay and we will live with it a majority vaccinated (or intermittently boosted), like we do with the flu.
In a few years yes I agree with you. But remember only 10% of the world is vaccinated. It will continue to spread and mutate in the meantime. Thats why we need to move on the anti vaxxers once we achieve herd immunity.

They are the weak link.
 

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I am not anti vaccines, i am against taking a vaccine that was developed way too fast in a rush and that i don't know the long term effect.
The vaccines were not developed "way too fast", it is simply skipping all the bureaucracy normally required.
Before the pandemic, each trial phases have to be done in sequence, and approval process takes a long time.
This time, they do everything in parallels, and approval process was expedited - but the standard was not lowered. That's why years have been saved from the development.

As for long term side effects, NO VACCINES in the modern era have side effects more than 8 weeks after administration.
Unlike long term side effects from medication you take every day, it is extremely unlikely to have any residual effects from some organic compound which got injected once and broken down in your body within days.

I just look at the + and the - and came into conclusion that at my age and physical condition, i do not need a vaccine so early in developement for something that has almost a 0 risk of killing me.
With 400 to 500 MILLION doses of mRNA vaccines given, you cannot call it "early in development" by any standard.
It is now well proven, it works and have very few side effects.

I don't know your age, but the risk of dying from Covid is not zero.
And taking vaccines is not just about not dying from Covid, it's also about protecting your friends and family and your loved ones, and avoiding the trauma of hospitalization and ICU admission, and potential effects affecting the rest of your life.

i won't tolerate a segregation in it for such a pitifull reason.
Sorry that we value life and health more than you do. But that's the Canada way.
If you want a country which doesn't care about death and suffering, maybe US is for you.
 

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Not any more. We will find ways to lock you down instead.

is that supposed to be a threat?

this is the second time this morning you resort to post threats
 

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I get banned for calling stupid people stupid, and this guy is making actual threats and nothing. Lol.
 

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The title is misleading. Look at the data, from June to today look at the number of infections and look at the number of deaths, what is I see is minuscule numbers. The vaccine is working to reduce serious illness.

 
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is that supposed to be a threat?

this is the second time this morning you resort to post threats
I get banned for calling stupid people stupid, and this guy is making actual threats and nothing. Lol.
You and your ilk are more of a threat with all your misinformation, bullshit and nonsense than Butler can ever be!

The bright side is that you are so outlandish than no one with a bit of brain cells would ever take you seriously.
 

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I get banned for calling stupid people stupid, and this guy is making actual threats and nothing. Lol.
You were banned I'm betting for spreading misinformation. When I state an anti Vaxxer is stupid and dangerous the Mods and site owners agree. They are smart tolerant people who give lots of leeway to us posters. But they don't tolerate people who post lies. And spread dangerous crap.
 

Butler1000

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is that supposed to be a threat?

this is the second time this morning you resort to post threats
What threat? There is no threat. Right now there are restrictions on everyone. Those restrictions imo should only be lifted on those smart enough to get vaccinated. The rest can remain restricted, masked, and socially distanced until they smarten up.
 

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What threat? There is no threat. Right now there are restrictions on everyone. Those restrictions imo should only be lifted on those smart enough to get vaccinated. The rest can remain restricted, masked, and socially distanced until they smarten up.

dude stop dreaming up fantasies. Most of North America is opening with no vaccine passes.
 

Butler1000

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dude stop dreaming up fantasies. Most of North America is opening with no vaccine passes.
"Most of North America"

Covers a total of Three Nations. One of which is a Third World one. Canada is still highly restricted. This isn't over yet. The USA in the fall is going to see a spike in low vaccinated areas. And will find themselves isolated as a result.

And as of now need proof of Vaccination to enter the EU. Hopefully Canada is next to require that. Bad caseloads in the USA will prompt it.
 
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