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canada-man

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As I said, you are incapable of reading past the headline, even when you cut and paste the actual text.

p.s. Do you think satellites take surface temperature by dropping thermometers? Sorry but for the past 60 years, one of the main methods of temperature measurements has been of the entire surface.

dude your are now trollling you are the one that cannot read
and here is the link to the study

Climate | Free Full-Text | The Detection and Attribution of Northern Hemisphere Land Surface Warming (1850–2018) in Terms of Human and Natural Factors: Challenges of Inadequate Data (mdpi.com)
 

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I love right wingers who claim that consensus doesn't mean the science is solid and then post single studies as if it is the most solid proof ever.
So if there are 1000 papers saying one thing you'll say it doesn't count and then if you find 1 that says the opposite you'll say that's the truth.

Brown is a lobbyist who studied energy policy, not climatology.



 

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Whistle-Blower: Top Journals Won’t Publish Climate Studies Contradicting Alarmist Narrative



If you’ve been reading any news about wildfires this summer — from Canada to Europe to Maui — you will surely get the impression that they are mostly the result of climate change.

Here’s the AP: ‘Climate change keeps making wildfires and smoke worse. Scientists call it the “new abnormal.”’

And PBS NewsHour: ‘Wildfires driven by climate change are on the rise—Spain must do more to prepare, experts say.’ [emphasis, links added]



And the New York Times: ‘How Climate Change Turned Lush Hawaii Into a Tinderbox.’

And Bloomberg: ‘Maui Fires Show Climate Change’s Ugly Reach.’

I am a climate scientist. And while climate change is an important factor affecting wildfires in many parts of the world, it isn’t close to the only factor that deserves our sole focus.


So why does the press focus so intently on climate change as the root cause?
Perhaps for the same reasons I just did in an academic paper about wildfires in Nature, one of the world’s most prestigious journals: it fits a simple storyline that rewards the person telling it.

The paper I just published — ‘Climate warming increases extreme daily wildfire growth risk in California‘ — focuses exclusively on how climate change has affected extreme wildfire behavior.

I knew not to try to quantify key aspects other than climate change in my research because it would dilute the story that prestigious journals like Nature and its rival, Science, want to tell.

This matters because it is critically important for scientists to be published in high-profile journals; in many ways, they are the gatekeepers for career success in academia.

And the editors of these journals have made it abundantly clear, both by what they publish and what they reject, that they want climate papers that support certain preapproved narratives — even when those narratives come at the expense of broader knowledge for society.

To put it bluntly, climate science has become less about understanding the complexities of the world and more about serving as a kind of Cassandra, urgently warning the public about the dangers of climate change.

However understandable this instinct may be, it distorts a great deal of climate science research, misinforms the public, and most importantly, makes practical solutions more difficult to achieve.

Why Is This Happening?
It starts with the fact that a researcher’s career depends on his or her work being cited widely and perceived as important. This triggers the self-reinforcing feedback loops of name recognition, funding, quality applications from aspiring Ph.D. students and postdocs, and of course, accolades.

But as the number of researchers has skyrocketed in recent years — there are close to six times more PhDs earned in the U.S. each year than there were in the early 1960s — it has become more difficult than ever to stand out from the crowd.

So while there has always been a tremendous premium placed on publishing in journals like Nature and Science, it’s also become extraordinarily more competitive.

In theory, scientific research should prize curiosity, dispassionate objectivity, and a commitment to uncovering the truth. Surely those are the qualities that editors of scientific journals should value?

In reality, though, the biases of the editors (and the reviewers they call upon to evaluate submissions) exert a major influence on the collective output of entire fields.

They select what gets published from a large pool of entries, and in doing so, they also shape how research is conducted more broadly.

Savvy researchers tailor their studies to maximize the likelihood that their work is accepted. I know this because I am one of them.

Here’s How It Works
The first thing the astute climate researcher knows is that his or her work should support the mainstream narrative—namely, that the effects of climate change are both pervasive and catastrophic and that the primary way to deal with them is not by employing practical adaptation measures like stronger, more resilient infrastructure, better zoning and building codes, more air conditioning—or in the case of wildfires, better forest management or undergrounding power lines—but through policies like the Inflation Reduction Act, aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

So in my recent Nature paper, which I authored with seven others, I focused narrowly on the influence of climate change on extreme wildfire behavior.

Make no mistake: that influence is very real. But there are also other factors that can be just as or more important, such as poor forest management and the increasing number of people who start wildfires either accidentally or purposely. (A startling fact: over 80 percent of wildfires in the US are ignited by humans.)

In my paper, we didn’t bother to study the influence of these other obviously relevant factors. Did I know that including them would make for a more realistic and useful analysis? I did.

But I also knew that it would detract from the clean narrative centered on the negative impact of climate change and thus decrease the odds that the paper would pass muster with Nature’s editors and reviewers.

This type of framing, with the influence of climate change unrealistically considered in isolation, is the norm for high-profile research papers.

For example, in another recent influential Nature paper, scientists calculated that the two largest climate change impacts on society are deaths related to extreme heat and damage to agriculture.

However, the authors never mention that climate change is not the dominant driver for either one of these impacts: heat-related deaths have been declining, and crop yields have been increasing for decades despite climate change.

To acknowledge this would imply that the world has succeeded in some areas despite climate change—which, the thinking goes, would undermine the motivation for emissions reductions.

Another way to get the kind of big numbers that will justify the importance of your research—and impress editors, reviewers, and the media—is to always assess the magnitude of climate change over centuries, even if that timescale is irrelevant to the impact you are studying.

For example, it is standard practice to assess impacts on society using the amount of climate change since the Industrial Revolution but to ignore technological and societal changes over that time.

Read rest at The Free Press

Alarmists Predict ‘One Billion’ Deaths From Climate Change In Hundred Years



Researchers from Canada and Australia have published a study predicting a remarkable one billion deaths from climate change over the next 100 years.

Citing a “scientific consensus,” the authors analyzed 180 studies on climate change and mortality, converging on a “1000-ton rule,” which means for every 1,000 tons of fossil fuel burned, a person dies. [emphasis, links added]



The article, published in the journal Energies, contends that “a future person is killed every time humanity burns 1,000 tons of fossil carbon,” based on a calculation that “burning a trillion tons of fossil carbon will cause 2°C of anthropogenic global warming (AGW), which in turn will cause roughly a billion future premature deaths spread over a period of very roughly one century.”

Estimates of world population growth suggest that by 2100, there will be just over 10 billion humans on the planet, meaning that 10 percent of humanity will die from climate change if the study’s authors are to be believed.

The paper also makes the stunning claim that if humanity collectively burned the five trillion tons of fossil carbon available in the Earth’s crust, “global mean surface temperature would increase by up to 10°C relative to the preindustrial era and could threaten human extinction.

“If you take the scientific consensus of the 1,000-ton rule seriously, and run the numbers, anthropogenic global warming (AGW) equates to a billion premature dead bodies over the next century,” said Western University’s Joshua Pearce, one of the authors. “Obviously, we have to act. And we have to act fast.


The study also claims that it has been “clear for a decade or more that the final death toll due to AGW will be much greater than 100 million, or one million per year for a century — an extreme best case if current death rates from AGW miraculously remained constant at about one million per year (a level that may have already have reached).”

Since there has never been a single death convincingly attributed to climate change, one wonders where the authors of the study draw their assurance that nearly 3,000 people are dying every single day from global warming.

Moreover, since total weather-related deaths have been steadily decreasing by the year to a mere fraction of what they were 100 years ago, prognosticating a sudden reversal in the trend would seem to require a more scientific explanation than the clever-sounding but ultimately untenable “1,000-ton rule.”

Finally, the authors of the study fail to address the disconcerting fact that nearly ten times as many people die from cold temperatures than from heat every year, which would seem to imply that slightly warmer temperatures would result in fewer — not more — weather-related deaths.

But not letting facts get in the way
of a good story is a tried and true strategy, one that has proven especially effective for climate change alarmists.

h/t RO

Read more at Breitbart
 

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Wrong, LA Times, There is No Evidence ‘Climate Change Boosts Risk of Explosive Wildfire Growth in California’




An article in The Los Angeles Times (LA Times) published on September 4, 2023 makes the claim that a study by a Berkeley think tank proves “Climate change has ratcheted up the risk of explosive wildfire growth in California by 25%.” This is false. The study ignores other more important factors, and real-world data shows the moisture in the regions of California most affected by wildfires has actually increased, rather than decreased as the study claims.

The LA Times cites a Nature study titled “Climate warming increases extreme daily wildfire growth risk in California.” In the abstract of the paper the authors make an important admission: “Some portion of the change in wildfire behavior is attributable to anthropogenic climate warming, but formally quantifying this contribution is difficult because of numerous confounding factors and because wildfires are below the grid scale of global climate models.”

They also say: “We find that the influence of anthropogenic warming on the risk of extreme daily wildfire growth varies appreciably on a fire-by-fire and day-by-day basis, depending on whether or not climate warming pushes conditions over certain thresholds of aridity, such as 1.5 kPa of vapor-pressure deficit and 10% dead fuel moisture.”

The study fails on these two points because later in the study they cite global climate models using Artificial Intelligence (AI) to tease out relationships that can’t be accounted for in the grid-scale climate models to produce predictions. Models, and especially AI enhanced results are not actual data – they are projections based on the assumptions built into the models and the AI.

The models fail to account for the myriad confounding factors the authors themselves previously acknowledged, such as the increase in arson caused wildfires. In fact, the word “arson” is not mentioned anywhere in the study nor is there any detailed discussion of the actual contributions to increased wildfires of the so-called “confounding factors” in the study.

Ironically, the answer lies in an LA Times article from 2021 which stated: “Electrical equipment accounted for about 12% and lightning 6%. But arson was also a factor, sparking about 9% of fires in 2019, and roughly 8% to 10% of the state’s wildfires in any given year.”

The authors also ignored a 2017 study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science (PNAS) which looked at actual data instead of computer models and concluded that in the United States, humans accounted for 84% of wildfires:

Our analysis of two decades of government agency wildfire records highlights the fundamental role of human ignitions. Human-started wildfires accounted for 84% of all wildfires, tripled the length of the fire season, dominated an area seven times greater than that affected by lightning fires, and were responsible for nearly half of all area burned.

A second problematic aspect of the study relates to their use of, “vapor-pressure deficit and 10% dead fuel moisture.” Leaving aside the study’s use of AI enhanced modeling to sift for correlations between small scale moisture changes and wildfire, the researchers also used a novel and little-known approach to link the so-called drought and heat to fossil fuel emissions: Vapor Pressure Deficit (VPD). The VPD is similar to, but not the same as, the more commonly known relative humidity seen in daily weather reports. In layman’s terms, VPD measures how much water is in the air versus the maximum amount of water vapor that can exist in that air. This atmospheric metric is hardly ever used. Climate Realism has refuted the use of VPD to understand drought and wildfire previously.

Most egregious of all, the Nature study itself ignored actual published data about VPD drying. The 2020 paper, Plant responses to rising vapor pressure deficit, examines actual data for the western U.S., specifically in the mountains of California, and shows VPD has decreased, indicating more moisture. These areas show VPD values that indicate more moisture, rather than less, and completely contradict the claims of drying made in the Nature study. This is seen in Figure 1 below, with both the U.S. and an expanded magnified panel showing the western area of the study. The green colors indicate wetter conditions.

Figure 1 – Figure 1A from the paper Plant responses to rising vapor pressure deficit, magnified and annotated by A. Watts to show the Western U.S. and Canada regions cited in the Nature paper. Green areas in California and Western Canada indicate wetter conditions, yet these are areas where the biggest wildfires occurred.




Not only are the authors of the Nature study ignoring the easily available and contradictory VPD evidence in their paper, but they also used global scale climate models to support their assertion that climate change induced VPD deficits are driving wildfires in California, while at the same time admitting the models aren’t suitable for purpose at that scale. Instead, they use AI to tease out fire projections they believe are there but really aren’t.

This is a classic example of the overreliance on models (and now AI) in climate research, instead of actual data. Models are not data, nor do they define reality as actual data does. It is shameful that science and the LA Times present model outputs as such.

Wrong, LA Times, There is No Evidence ‘Climate Change Boosts Risk of Explosive Wildfire Growth in California’ - ClimateRealism
 

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Wrong, LA Times, There is No Evidence ‘Climate Change Boosts Risk of Explosive Wildfire Growth in California’
I find it disgusting you are still trying to claim its 'arsonists' that start forest fires. Its the lamest of oil funded disinformation.


Are you really claiming that the entire country is filled with arsonists, that arsonists live all through northern Quebec, BC, Manitoba, the Yukon and all the unpopulated areas of Canada?
Its really stupid.

 

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Do you know how many idiots ( more accurate word) start them, even when there are burn bans? Even in the spring when there are burn bans and the ground is wet?

Natural causes do happen. Not suggesting otherwise. But there millions of idiots in this world too.
 

Frankfooter

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Do you know how many idiots ( more accurate word) start them, even when there are burn bans? Even in the spring when there are burn bans and the ground is wet?

Natural causes do happen. Not suggesting otherwise. But there millions of idiots in this world too.
Again, look at this map and tell me how many of these fires all across Canada were intentionally started by arsonists.

 

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I trust that you are better schooled in basic science than majority of posters
here. As such you may be more likely to be able to help me out with finding an
answer to this question: What is the uncertainty of the reported rise in global
temperature?

The thermometer in my living room has an uncertainty of
plus/minus 0.05 deg. What uncertainty you would assign
to the reported rise in global temperature?
It's a tough question that I'm sure you can find answers to if you really cared. I know different measuring tools have different uncertainty but the very cheep little IR cam I have has digital gradations of +/-0.1 K so I would suspect that the satellite IR measurement would be at least that with the 16(?) different satellites doing this work.
 

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Did you read the part that their conservative estimate was 60% of the accepted value so even they admit there is significant warming.

And I see you can't respond to my statement about 60 years of satellite data that isn't impacted by any heat island effect.
 

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Whistle-Blower: Top Journals Won’t Publish Climate Studies Contradicting Alarmist Narrative

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I know. I can't get any journals to accept my paper on do-it-yourself kidney replacement. Don't know why. I did my research on youtube.
 

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Do you know how many idiots ( more accurate word) start them, even when there are burn bans? Even in the spring when there are burn bans and the ground is wet?

Natural causes do happen. Not suggesting otherwise. But there millions of idiots in this world too.
What kind of conditions do you think lead to burn bans being implemented?
 

Frankfooter

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Perhaps you missed “idiots might be a more accurate word?”

look at that map, and tell me which areas are devoid of humans.
Are you claiming all those fires were started by humans and the conditions of the forests had nothing to do with them turning into major fires?
 

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Whenever a dumb Leftie tells you that climate change is a settled science, you tell them that up until 5 years ago the fact there are only 2 genders was also settled science 😂
 
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