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The Astonishingly Woke Australian Academy Of ‘Anti-Science’
- Climate Change Dispatch
What a total bullshit article!
The UNESCO comments are about government policy, not about whether or not the Great Barrier Reef is in danger from bleaching.

The stuff you post is such garbage.
 

Frankfooter

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For the sake of arguement let’s all just agree it’s as dire as they are warning. Let’s all just agree various points of no return are just a few years away and not all that far as they say…

Translated in plain English. It’s urgent!!!!!!!
Let’s piss around playing games trying to buy a few years..

Rather than taking action…doing the things they should be doing. We could rhyme of a few dozen things I’m thinking…electric grids? Any action there? Can’t imagine that’s going to be accomplished anytime fast.
Raise the carbon tax
Subsidies for heat pumps
Taxes on SUV
Subsidies for renewables
More funding for public transit
More funding for bike lanes
Ban private jets
End all subsidies for fossil fuels

Go ahead, lets see your 'few dozen things' you can rhyme off.
 

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Climate alarmists insist there’s a “scientific consensus” that says climate change is a crisis, and man causes it! Researcher Judith Curry tells me, “it’s a manufactured consensus.”

 

Frankfooter

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Climate alarmists insist there’s a “scientific consensus” that says climate change is a crisis, and man causes it! Researcher Judith Curry tells me, “it’s a manufactured consensus.”

Judith Curry was paid $80,000 to appear in court but during trial the oil people realized they couldn't put her on the stand so sent her home.
She's just an oil lobbyist, you might as well put someone in a white lab coat telling you that cigarettes are good for you.

Meanwhile, Canada's forest fires so far this year have burnt the area of half of Norway this year.

Spain is getting massive floods from this:
 

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Room 112
Raise the carbon tax
Subsidies for heat pumps
Taxes on SUV
Subsidies for renewables
More funding for public transit
More funding for bike lanes
Ban private jets
End all subsidies for fossil fuels

Go ahead, lets see your 'few dozen things' you can rhyme off.
All pointless except for increased funding for public transit. That would include security measures so that people feel safe riding our buses and trains.
 

K Douglas

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Judith Curry was paid $80,000 to appear in court but during trial the oil people realized they couldn't put her on the stand so sent her home.
She's just an oil lobbyist, you might as well put someone in a white lab coat telling you that cigarettes are good for you.

Meanwhile, Canada's forest fires so far this year have burnt the area of half of Norway this year.

Spain is getting massive floods from this:
Typical left wing garbage calling Judith Curry an oil lobbyist. You have no shame.
 

Not getting younger

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Raise the carbon tax
Subsidies for heat pumps
Taxes on SUV
Subsidies for renewables
More funding for public transit
More funding for bike lanes
Ban private jets
End all subsidies for fossil fuels


Let’s a e your 'few dozen things' you can rhyme off.

Raise the carbon tax
highly disputed about who actually gets rebates that are greater than carbon taxes….Nor does it treat everyone equally regardless.


Subsidies for heat pumps
not suitable for Canadian winters, unless cold climate heat pumps that cost $15,000 or so. And even then, still need secondary after -30c Are you not following that the middles class and down are living paycheck to paycheck?

Taxes on SUV.
Possibly, but see above regarding middle class and down. And unlike people in urban areas in rural Canada SUVs and Trucks are more of a necessity.

Subsidies for renewables why subsidies for the well off, but not the dirty masses that can’t afford them.
More funding for public transit
Why should people that live in rural Saskatchewan growing your food pay for your convenience? And by doing so make it easier you to net more $ in rebates…

More funding for bike lanes
As long as those benefitting and achieving more back in rebates pays for them. Sure

Ban private jets. though that might business espenses greater which means higher cost at the stores, or possibly job losses.

End all subsidies for fossil fuels
More job losses, etc. more people from the west adding to housing problems in the GTA

Go ahead, lets see your 'few dozen things' you can rhyme off.What makes you think I will or should given oh so much.
 
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Frankfooter

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Typical left wing garbage calling Judith Curry an oil lobbyist. You have no shame.
 

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Raise the carbon tax
highly disputed about who actually gets rebates that are greater than carbon taxes….Nor does it treat everyone equally regardless.


Subsidies for heat pumps
not suitable for Canadian winters, unless cold climate heat pumps that cost $15,000 or so. And even then, still need secondary after -30c Are you not following that the middles class and down are living paycheck to paycheck?

Taxes on SUV.
Possibly, but see above regarding middle class and down. And unlike people in urban areas in rural Canada SUVs and Trucks are more of a necessity.

Subsidies for renewables why subsidies for the well off, but not the dirty masses that can’t afford them.
More funding for public transit
Why should people that live in rural Saskatchewan growing your food pay for your convenience? And by doing so make it easier you to net more $ in rebates…

More funding for bike lanes
As long as those benefitting and achieving more back in rebates pays for them. Sure

Ban private jets. though that might business espenses greater which means higher cost at the stores, or possibly job losses.

End all subsidies for fossil fuels
More job losses, etc. more people from the west adding to housing problems in the GTA

Go ahead, lets see your 'few dozen things' you can rhyme off.What makes you think I will or should given oh so much.
Wrong on every point.

Carbon taxes - https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappen...-are-the-solution-to-climate-change-1.4854639
Heat pumps work fine - the oil industry is spreading disinformation about heat pumps https://www.desmog.com/2023/07/20/revealed-media-blitz-against-heat-pumps-funded-by-gas-lobby-group/
Subsidies - renewables are already cheaper, with subsidies transition happens faster
Private jets - who cares if its more expensive for the super rich
oil subsidies - $7 trillion globally could be spent on not destroying the planet and could be spent here on EV's, renewables, grid updates and public transit

Its just as I said.
You claimed you could come up with dozens of policies yet have offered nothing except lame ass excuses to do nothing.
 

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All state and corporate media in the EU have been yelling and shouting about the hot weather in Europe. It is infernal, they say. Never been so hot, they want us to believe. UN Secretary General Guterres is telling the world the “Age of Global Boiling has arrived.” Thus lectures a man who has long been associated with notorious pedophiles and under whose auspices as Portuguese PM (1995-2002) the sexual abuse of minors in the so-called Casa Pia homes was taking place.

On the weather maps shown in the media, the areas with temperatures above 35 degrees centigrade are colored blood red. Only a few years ago, those same temperatures would be indicated by shades of green, or at most yellow. No mention is made of snow falling in the Alps at altitudes above 1,800 meters (a rarity in summer). Nor has there been any mention in the media of snow falling in Johannesburg just a few weeks ago. Apparently, this is a rare occurrence even in the Southern Hemisphere winter there. Meanwhile, recent research on Antarctica has shown that during the 2009-2019 decade its ice cap has had a net growth of more than five thousand square kilometers.

In other words, the weather reports, once upon a time the only item in the media that one could trust, are as misleading and mendacious as everything else in the news. We are being told the climate is changing and it is all our fault. Hence we have to trust the authorities and do exactly as we are told. Otherwise, we will die a horrible death! Therefore, no more barbecuing from now on. In winter, we must wear an extra sweater at home, because normal room temperature would require excessive heating, which only further contributes to global warming!

Moreover, we will need to stop eating meat and start consuming insects instead. “Let them eat insects,” is what our noble leaders in their luxurious palaces have apparently decided. Only if we switch to eating crickets and meal worms may we be able to stop our planet from becoming even hotter. Our rulers are assuring us that “most scientists” agree that human activity causes the planet to become ever hotter. In a sense, this is a reassuring thought, because apparently science is therefore democratic. When “most scientists” believe something, it must be true, because after all they are scientists! But since they are human, they can be mistaken as well. So perhaps anthropogenic climate change is a non-issue after all!

Not too long ago, our governments assured us there was a killer disease out there and the only thing we could do to be safe was to get an anti-covid shot. Now it is becoming ever more widely known that some of those jabs were doing more harm than good. The Moderna “vaccine” is causing heart problems in one out of every thirty-five recipients. The Pfizer jab, never properly tested, has over 1,200 side effects ranging from serious to very serious (including death!). We were led to believe that once vaccinated, we could not spread the dreaded disease (but we could) and when felled with covid, we were told the effects were “less serious.” Matters would certainly have been “much worse” had so many of us not taken those shots.

In the Global Warming narrative, governments are now using the same arguments and tricks they have been using to cow the citizens into submission during the “pandemic.” However, as with a kitchen knife, one needs to sharpen it in order to keep using it. It is rather doubtful whether the tricks will work as effectively as during the Great Covid Show. Even a magician needs to adapt his tricks from time to time. Governments on the other hand seem to have become so confident and self-assured they think they can pull off anything. It is a good thing they are forgetting rule number one in any contest and showdown, which is never to underestimate one’s adversary.

Meanwhile over in Europe, the collapse of states as desired by the US and its instruments such as the WEF seems to proceed according to plan. France is still dizzy from the effects of the wave of violence that hit it early in the summer. In towns and villages all over Germany, angry and fearful citizens organize demonstrations that the media do not report on; lakeside resorts and swimming pools, once peaceful and pleasant, have turned into hotbeds of interracial conflict due to the unacceptable behavior of gangs of foreigners who should never have been allowed into the country in the first place. Traveling on trains in many European countries has become dangerous to real, native Europeans, especially women. Many railroad stations especially in the bigger cities, are danger zones.

On 7 July, Dutch PM Mark Rutte, taking the sting out of a scheduled vote of no confidence in parliament, announced his complete withdrawal from politics. One of his coalition partners had indicated they were willing to exit from the cabinet. From that moment on, he has been demissionary and, paradoxically, in a position that enables him to rule as a dictator. After all, someone needs to take care of day-to-day business and govern the country and Rutte can no longer be voted out of office. One of the things he will decide, without needing parliamentary approval, is a decree allowing children between one and twelve years old to opt for euthanasia.

New elections are scheduled in November and given that it usually takes about a year to build a new coalition government, Rutte has given himself a career extension of well over a year. Quite surprisingly, in an unprecedented move, twenty of the 150 members of parliament have announced their retreat from politics as well. They include several major party leaders as well as some highly visible and vocal politicians. Why this sudden and massive retreat? What do they know that the voting public doesn’t?

Like in many other “democratic” states in the West, parliamentary debate has become rather meaningless. With party discipline being strictly enforced, once a government is in power, there is nothing that can oust it, least of all a debate in parliament. Government ministers who refuse to answer questions in parliament, breaking laws and regulations, can just do so and never have to face the consequences. This has become common practice all over the EU. In other words, lawlessness reigns supreme.

Why then would politicians willingly renounce their access to the fleshpots and pork barrels? It would seem some profound systemic changes are about to take place. Would we need to look at Brussels? The unelected EuSSR apparatchiks in that cursed town are running a centralized dictatorship. Most Europeans have not yet caught on to the notion that national sovereignty has long ceased to exist in all EU member states and that their parliaments are all fake. The EU is no more than the political branch of NATO, and NATO is to the US what the Attic League was to Athens: an imperial control mechanism dressed up as a voluntary alliance.

The political stage in the Netherlands is now being prepared for the stellar appearance of Mr. Frans Timmermans, the corpulent Dutch-born EU “Commissar for Climate Action,” the Climate Lunatic-in-Chief. This man is going to be running for a seat in Dutch parliament as leader of the new Social Democratic-Green Party. Needless to say, Mr. Timmermans would not even consider this move if he weren’t sure he would win and become the new Prime Minister. Soon, other EU member states will also get governments led by former EU Commissars.

If everything goes according to plan, it will mean that the conversion of the EU into a copy of the old USSR has been completed. However, whereas the USSR leadership more or less had the interests of its citizens at heart (education and health care were free and of good quality), the EuSSR is a dystopian hell hole, run by psychopaths who think they are god. They have intentionally destroyed education and public health.

As the USSR collapsed under its own weight, so will the EuSSR. Let’s hope this will be sooner rather than later.

 

Frankfooter

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All your sources are from green champions cashing in on you and others.

More I could say. But you are who you are
You can't be very bright if you think every single climatologist in the world is trying to scam the globe over the big bucks of research grants while being totally ignorant of where the money really lies.
 

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However, the reality is that Canada still gives billions in tax breaks, grants, financing, and other supports to the oil and gas industry every year—totalling over CAD 20 billion in 2022—and a significant portion of these are subsidies.
Canada's natural gas and oil industry generated $105 billion to Canada's gross domestic product (GDP) and supported almost 400,000 Canadian jobs across the country in 2020.

Ill let you think about it
 

Frankfooter

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Ill let you think about it
I see, you don't think we should get in the way of oil companies raking in the cash just cause it'll kill your children later on.

Renewables are already cheaper, you think there will not be jobs involved with renewables?
Just looking at one option:

Meanwhile Spain had massive flooding which is about to hit Greece.
How expensive will this be?
This should come out of oil profits directly.

 

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Ill let you think about it
ok lets add some clarity as the following is a prefect example of mis-information
However, the reality is that Canada still gives billions in tax breaks, grants, financing, and other supports to the oil and gas industry every year—totalling over CAD 20 billion in 2022—and a significant portion of these are subsidies.
the vast majority of this 'support' to the oil and gas industry every year is capital cost allowance deductions related the depreciation/ depletion of capital assets
capital cost allowance deductions are available to ALL profitable Canadian Businesses
including the unreliable wind / solar generators. oh wait...... the company needs to generate a taxable profit

the unreliable wind / solar generators can only generate a taxable profit if..... they are subsidized via above market rates.

the oil and gas industry does not receive cheques from the govt of Canada
the cash flows from oil and gas industry to the govt of Canada via royalties and in a big way

RBC: oil and gas companies poured $48 billion into government coffers | Financial Post


Who needs a windfall tax? Oil and gas companies poured $48 billion into government coffers this year, says RBC
That could rise to $64 billion in royalties and taxes in 2023 if oil prices stay high
 
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ok lets add some clarity as the following is a prefect example of mis-information


the vast majority of this 'support' to the oil and gas industry every year is capital cost allowance deductions related the depreciation/ depletion of capital assets
capital cost allowance deductions are available to ALL profitable Canadian Businesses
including the unreliable wind / solar generators. oh wait...... the company needs to generate a taxable profit

the unreliable wind / solar generators can only generate a taxable profit if..... they are subsidized via above market rates.

the oil and gas industry does not receive cheques from the govt of Canada
the cash flows from oil and gas industry to the govt of Canada via royalties and in a big way

RBC: oil and gas companies poured $48 billion into government coffers | Financial Post
I just put that up for “perspective”. Against what it generates for our GDP, 400,000 jobs. Without touching on direct tax revenue that goes to things like
Healthcare
CPP ( I do hope Alberta carries through with the threat to withdraw. Sometimes people need painful lessons)
 

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ok lets add some clarity as the following is a prefect example of mis-information


the vast majority of this 'support' to the oil and gas industry every year is capital cost allowance deductions related the depreciation/ depletion of capital assets
capital cost allowance deductions are available to ALL profitable Canadian Businesses
including the unreliable wind / solar generators. oh wait...... the company needs to generate a taxable profit

the unreliable wind / solar generators can only generate a taxable profit if..... they are subsidized via above market rates.

the oil and gas industry does not receive cheques from the govt of Canada
the cash flows from oil and gas industry to the govt of Canada via royalties and in a big way

RBC: oil and gas companies poured $48 billion into government coffers | Financial Post
If they make that much money then lets cancel the $15 billion in subsidies and put that to use on renewables, transition and transit.
 

Not getting younger

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If they make that much money then lets cancel the $15 billion in subsidies and put that to use on renewables, transition and transit.
Why don’t you pay for it yourself? You’re fast to put other people out work while you rely on their money.
 

Frankfooter

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Why don’t you pay for it yourself? You’re fast to put other people out work while you rely on their money.
You wouldn't want a few people to lose jobs over only 1 billion deaths, would you?

You said you had dozens of policy ideas, so far you've offered nothing.
As usual.
 
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