Civility.....

Really? Is this thread about public transit or living in the city? No, it's about civility. I was "asked" if I took transit and I answered. Who the fuck are you to tell me which threads to post in?
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You stated thst you do not take transit or live in the city, effectively dismissing/invalidating much of the (quite reasonable) issues raised in the thread. Again, why post if only to dismiss?
 
I don't live in the city and haven't taken public transit for years.

And that's why it's easier for you not to run into 3 assholes in a day.

Just go onto public transit in rush hour. Or on the street as a sporting event let's out, and then transit with them.

You will fill your quota up for the month.
 
You stated thst you do not take transit or live in the city, effectively dismissing/invalidating much of the (quite reasonable) issues raised in the thread. Again, why post if only to dismiss?

The only issue the OP (original poster) brought up that has anything to do with the city (Toronto) was the issue with the subway. The town that I live in has bicycle lanes, speeding cars, dogs off leash etc. Are you trying to say that only people in the city have a right to be treated with civility? Why post if only to trying to be dismissive of me?
 
And that's why it's easier for you not to run into 3 assholes in a day.

Just go onto public transit in rush hour. Or on the street as a sporting event let's out, and then transit with them.

You will fill your quota up for the month.

Do you get into three arguments a day taking transit? If so, then maybe you should reconsider your transportation methods.
 
Well look who is a smarty pants. LOL

Now let me ask, since you got what was going on, am I an asshole? :peace::rofl:

Ad hominum attacks are not my style. If you look at my posting history, you will see that. To quote myself from a different thread, people who make personal attacks do so because they are either unable or unwilling to understand what's being debated. You are free to have your own opinion, as all of us are. This is a thread about civility. Perhaps you should ask yourself if you hold doors open for people, if you put your feet up on the subway, if you bump into others when looking at your cellphone and do not excuse yourself, if you think laws are not meant for you (putting your dog on a leash), etc...

If that's how you behave most of the time....


And thank you for your opening compliment. Lots Of Love to you too, Jessica.
 
Here's a difference I've noticed between Canada and the US:

In Canada there are the jerks people mentioned here making up 20% of the people you run into on the street or transit or whatnot.

In the US in big cities by contrast about 20% are barely human, walking catastrophes with mental health issues, addiction issues, or good knows what. Beyond disturbed, beyond needing help, walking lost causes.

I believe this is due to the pathetic social services here. These people fell through the cracks decades ago and they ain't coming back.
 
Ad hominum attacks are not my style. If you look at my posting history, you will see that. To quote myself from a different thread, people who make personal attacks do so because they are either unable or unwilling to understand what's being debated. You are free to have your own opinion, as all of us are. This is a thread about civility. Perhaps you should ask yourself if you hold doors open for people, if you put your feet up on the subway, if you bump into others when looking at your cellphone and do not excuse yourself, if you think laws are not meant for you (putting your dog on a leash), etc...

If that's how you behave most of the time....


And thank you for your opening compliment. Lots Of Love to you too, Jessica.

What were you saying earlier about logic? Are you sure it is always on your mind?
Evidently, from your emboldened comments, which demonstrate both ad hominem and non sequitor, your ability to recognize logical failures in your own arguments is lacking.
 
BMW and Mercedes: the official cars of douches. Especially the ones with the custom exhaust pipes.

I was walking in downtown Toronto a few weeks ago when I heard a horn blowing. I looked around to see a Mercedes driver blowing through a red light, leaning on the horn all the way through the intersection.
 
What were you saying earlier about logic? Are you sure it is always on your mind?
Evidently, from your emboldened comments, which demonstrate both ad hominem and non sequitor, your ability to recognize logical failures in your own arguments is lacking.
Please explain. If I'm wrong then I will gladly admit it. I cannot see how my emboldened comments demonstrate ad hominem or non sequitor.
Back to you.
 
I think people are self absorbed and think they are "busy"

How is it both my parents worked and in the 70s and 80s had time to pretty much hang out with other adults almost every Saturday while the kids played with each other outside or in the basement. Nowadays you are lucky if you see your best friends once a month.
 
Amy ideas whats driving this? Has anyone else noted this as well or am I the only one, or am I being overly sensitive?

How about lousy parenting ! Now those kids are grown up, and without the values, that were installed in us. Others just have an entitled attitude. Applies to all, whether you walk, cycle, or drive. Mu guess is the same person, who has no regard is the same, when using any mode of travel. A bad driver, would be a bad cyclist. You have a person walking out in front of your moving car, and they ignore they just forced you to give up your right of way. So while you have some, uncivilized people to have to deal with at times. There are still more that are civil. (smile)
 
I think lousy parenting is partly if not entirely right. Nowadays kids get a medal just for showing up. This is wrong. Self esteem derives from mastering a subject. That takes work. I think it was somewhere in California that the whole self esteem thing began, and it took root. The thought that self esteem could be achieved on its own, without kids having to learn anything or do anything. Just be, and you will be rewarded. My mother in-law likes to say there are givers, and there are takers, and she's not shy to say that she's a giver, not a taker. That's how she sees herself.

A psychologist told me many years ago that healthy people go through three stages, dependence, independence, and interdependence. Newborn babies are dependent, and you stay that way until your teen years, that's when you become independent- ie: I hate living under my parents, I'd be happier living alone, etc. Finally, healthy people become interdependent, which means that you understand no man is an island. Sometimes it's okay to take, and other times you are expected to give.

Is being a helicopter parent still a thing? If it is it should stop.
 
I think lousy parenting is partly if not entirely right. Nowadays kids get a medal just for showing up. This is wrong. Self esteem derives from mastering a subject. That takes work. I think it was somewhere in California that the whole self esteem thing began, and it took root. The thought that self esteem could be achieved on its own, without kids having to learn anything or do anything. Just be, and you will be rewarded. My mother in-law likes to say there are givers, and there are takers, and she's not shy to say that she's a giver, not a taker. That's how she sees herself.

A psychologist told me many years ago that healthy people go through three stages, dependence, independence, and interdependence. Newborn babies are dependent, and you stay that way until your teen years, that's when you become independent- ie: I hate living under my parents, I'd be happier living alone, etc. Finally, healthy people become interdependent, which means that you understand no man is an island. Sometimes it's okay to take, and other times you are expected to give.

Is being a helicopter parent still a thing? If it is it should stop.

I think we pushed the "self-esteem" concept way too far. As a result, we've raised a generation of "takers" like you say that cannot and will not see how their actions affect other people. You also have people that think: "you can't fail my kids because it will hurt his self-esteem too much." Part of life is mistakes and learning to recover.

I also think that people are too quick to criticize and condemn other people, but some constructive criticism can be helpful.
 
Sometimes taking a vacation at a impoverished country, makes us appreciate the small bullshit life throws at us.

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I agree with malata but you have to get off the beaten path to truly appreciate their situation. My favourite saying after complaining about things like this: "First World Problem". You can let it ruin your day or smile and carry on. It's usually not worth the aggravation!
 
Is it just me or have you noticed that 20% of all people are just gaping assholes?....

Am I one if the very few people who are bothered by the increasing boorish and loutish behaviour of people? It used to be the uneducated and the lower class of people that used to behave like this; now it seems that professionals and educated people are behaving the same way as well.

Amy ideas whats driving this? Has anyone else noted this as well or am I the only one, or am I being overly sensitive?


Do you recognize the irony in your own "civility"?

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There's a lot of very inconsiderate people out there, for sure. In the mix are a lot of great people too, but we all deal with the crap.

Here's some things I've personally encountered which piss the ever living shit out of me.

  • Assholes (men and women) at Starbucks who require an extra chair (those big comfy ones) for their bags/jackets/laptops when the place is busy and they see people walking around looking for a seat. Same entitled losers who usually buy 1 drink and sit there for hours
  • People who are too fast to long honk their horns for the smallest things
  • Loud motorcycles with custom pipes, usually driven by young jerks trying to impress girls
  • Guys who look like average nerds but think they are all tough and cool because of their excessive arm tattoos

The last point is more an observation, but an annoying one.