Ok then.I should have been more specific. I'm against labs playing around with dangerous viruses (like Ebola or Marburg).
Obviously creating flu vaccines has been shown to be safe
So you are presumably fine with the research being done on H5N1 ?
Ok then.I should have been more specific. I'm against labs playing around with dangerous viruses (like Ebola or Marburg).
Obviously creating flu vaccines has been shown to be safe
Why do you get so defensive when people call out China??No.
They are quite pro-science, talking about the serious issues involved in lab safety.
You are saying no one should study vaccines and also "Uh oh, it's the Chinese".
Hell, you even posted this as if it offered some kind of evidence for SARS-CoV-2 escaping from the lab at Wuhan
Even with all the Biosafety levels in place, lab leaks still happen.Of course it could.
That's why there is all this talk about BioSafety Levels.
Has been a major issue for decades
LOLWhy do you get so defensive when people call out China??
Are we not allowed to criticize China because you're a far Leftie, and China is a communist country also??
Of course they do.Even with all the Biosafety levels in place, lab leaks still happen.
Read and learn: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/30/lab-leaks-shrouded-secrecy
Right, which is exactly why they shouldnt mess around with a dangerous virus like EbolaOf course they do.
Mistakes are inevitable.
This is part of the whole concept of security - risk management
Yet centuries later and it's still responsible for 3 or 4 hundred thousand deaths per year.Malaria is not a virus. Its caused by a parasite which has a simple cure.
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They don't come up with the vaccines before because it is pointless until you know the exact genetics of the virus. They develop treatments and they identify mechanisms the virus uses which can be targeted with vaccines or treatments.They came up with a smallpox vaccine AFTER that virus had causes millions of deaths.
Of course in that case developing a vaccine is a good thing.
Can you name 1 vaccine thats been developed BEFORE a pandemic started??
It would be stupid to claim that scientists studying infectious diseases aren't concerned about leaks as that is a big part of their job. But similarly, they know the protocols and the functioning of viruses in the wild so see it far more likely that a new pandemic will emerge from nature.Looks like I'm not the only one who voices concern.
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I may be wrong but don't they just survey the strains going around in the southern hemisphere and predict which ones are likely to spread here?Every year the standard flu vaccine is done to anticipate the next virus. For the record. Carry on.
Yes that's one part of it. But these things mutate all the time. And you have to anticipate other issues, and weigh the cost/benefit.I may be wrong but don't they just survey the strains going around in the southern hemisphere and predict which ones are likely to spread here?
There are lots of diseases that haven't yet become pandemics that they work on vaccines for.They don't come up with the vaccines before because it is pointless until you know the exact genetics of the virus. They develop treatments and they identify mechanisms the virus uses which can be targeted with vaccines or treatments.
Exactly.Yes that's one part of it. But these things mutate all the time. And you have to anticipate other issues, and weigh the cost/benefit.
No its not the most generous, its the correct interpretationThe most generous interpretation of Phil here is just that he has a very different cost/benefit risk calculation than we do
Isn't it amazing how Fauci denied that for so long, meanwhile, he was directly responsible for funding it through the NIAID.And they just admitted they were doing gain of function research at the Wuhan lab, fancy that ...
That's good to hear.No its not the most generous, its the correct interpretation
You are accepting Musk being excited by The New York Post's spin on it, then?And they just admitted they were doing gain of function research at the Wuhan lab, fancy that ...
Oh dear, are people actually thinking that this is evidence that SaRS CoV-2 came from the Wuhan lab?Isn't it amazing how Fauci denied that for so long, meanwhile, he was directly responsible for funding it through the NIAID.