Canadian Economy - Buoyant
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Sheesh ??
Did you really need to mention former PM Harper when speaking of a failed Retailer?
No
I do not hate Justin
I do not think he is qualified for the job though
Had his last name been anything other than Trudeau there is not a snowballs chance in hell he would be Prime Minister
Your right , he is worse than a drunken sailor
Deficit spending with no plan to get back to balance
Even a drunken sailor will stop spending once the pay package is empty
Bullshit
Canadian GDP growth was positive for 9 of 10 years he was the PM (2009 was negative). Are you going to blame PM Harper for the Global financial crisis?
0.9% in 2015 is actually quite good considering the slide in oil prices that year
if you think Trudeau's spending is the driver of the growth rate you are sadly mistaken
That is being driven by growth in the US (that US growth may soon stall so be ready to blame Justin if you stick to your lame ass logic)
for spending without a plan to come back to balance?
Your children may not agree as they will have to pay the bill
once again you get schooled and then you claim victory
your argument to control the oil industry was the ramblings of an idiot in 2014 and remains so now
Bullshit
The oil industry paid/ pays huge amounts of taxes. Something like $20 B in 2014
there was no subsidy
Name an industry which pays more smart guy?
they are well acquainted with the boom and bust cycle of the industry and can manage that
What they can not mange is a loud mouth no nothing from the East who does not understand the industry, yet thinks he can control it with a throttle on his duel currency Ponzi scheme
Again you hate Trudeau, but if the Canadians did not want a Liberal Government, then they would not have voted for him. Like saying Bush Junior would not have been elected if he did not have a "Bush" name. Ridiculous.
0.9 % GDP growth under Harper. You boasting about that?? Err 4.5% under Trudeau. His opinion polls are still high. Canadians (normal) think he is doing a great job, haters think.... Errr, the less said the better the beer.
Ohh, so now Trump is growing the Canadian economy. You are are going ballistic, with your dumb right wing logic. What did Trump do to grow the Canadian economy??? So Harper did nothing to grow the 0.9% GDP. It was thanks to Obama, then. My children are not concerned about Trudeau. Okay??? Hilarious.
Tons of salesmen earn more then $200,000
time for you to come out of your parent s basement and discover how the world works
That is dependant upon where you live
Are you going to advocate regional income redistribution?
Just the ones who are incented to get the skills, qualifications or drive to make $200,000
Income redistribution eliminates that incentive and will result in lower productivity
What about sending your kids to university or having a cottage as well as the family home?
if you work hard why should Justin take that dream away to give to others?
fine , we should all benefit including those that pay the most tax
Saddly rather than shrink the cost of government, he is expanding it and looking to screw our most productive citizens
Bull shit
Obviously it does not impact you
I did not lke then and I do not like it now
Any idiot can spend , it take real guts to cut the waste
Ok, get back to us when someone you care about is forced to wait 9 months for a knee or hip replacement. That is going to happen
You know a guy?
wow that solves everything
Mark my words there will be a doctor shortage and Justin's wealth redistribution will make it worse than it needed o be
If you have the skill to perform heart surgery I would expect $0.5 MM is inadequate.
What qualifies Justin to take $250,000+ of that?
Bullshit
This will be a real drag on small business who already have to deal with higher electricity costs , higher payroll taxes and increased minimum wages
any guess on how many will go under do to Justin / Granny Wynne polices ?
Our economy will grow only if the US economy grows
If you think taxing the rich helps our economy you need to take some economics refreshers
I do not follow either
If you say so
I was referring to the crap the unions or NDP publish, however either way if you think $200,000 makes you an elitist, then you are listening to the uninformed
Less said the better the beer. Go back to school if you think this is not English. In fact that quote is from an English Beer Ad.
You hate Trudeau. Period, unless you are saying that Canadians do not have any grey matter and just voted for a name. Ridiculous.
Ohh, and Bush Junior paid or had large sums of money to get elected. More ridiculous by the minute. Yes our economy is dependant on the USA for it's market and there are certain USA states that are dependant on Canadian goods and the Canadian market as well. It is called trade, okay?? If the USA did not exist then Canada would have been adapting to different markets like the EU, China etc. Who does the USA depend on in that case? Or are you saying that the USA can survive with no trades with other nations including Canada? Your right wing logic runs into road blocks. Do not worry about my children as they have started their University education and are far more optimistic with their career paths. I can imagine your children being fed with your pessimism. You must be a real grumpy old parent with your take on life.
Oh now its unintended consequences is it? One of the PRIMARY roles of govt is income redistribution. Building public goods is a form of income redistribution, as are public schools. Nationalized healthcare etc etc etc. Its not stealing. Its investing in a platform of wealth and maintaining equity and opportunity om society to ensure its long term viability. Would it be better to have widespread poverty and violence so we can spend more money on cops and jails? Conservatives like you really lack commonsense and actually believe you can be successful without the great country we have that is a result of a reasonably good govt. Go to Zimbabwe and see how you make out there.
The right wing dudes always seem to equate the implementation of a higher percentage of tax on the richest percentage as robbing Peter to pay Paul. Yet they will be the first to complain about certain flaws in the infrastructure.
Sorry troll but you are mixing up two differentv debates you lost.
1. The current topic is that oil was subsidised at the height of the bubble, a claim you previously tried to deny but then ran away when lots of references illustrating the various subsidies were provided
2. The topic on sterilizing the Canadian dollar from oil price fluctuations, which you lost when a Nobel prize winning economist endorsed it
I have never heard it before
It looked like gibberish or you made a typo to me.
What part of "I do not hate Justin, I do not think he is qualified for the job though" " do you not understand?
I cant help it if you do not believe this, however no way he gets the Liberal nomination if his last name is Jones
There were many within the Liberal party who had far more political experience and who are far more intelligent
Justin has his father name and some of his charisma , but he inherited his mothers good looks and sadly her intelligence
What a fool you are if you do not know how US politics works
Of coarse Bush money was spent by the buckets to get George W elected
How do you think they would up with the current idiot as President ?
Money was spent
An our economy is ultra dependant upon the US for this trade. If the US gets a cold Canada get the Flu economically
Fantasy as the US does exist and our economy is our economy is ultra dependant upon the US for this trade.
The US unlike most other developed economies is far less dependant upon trade as the US consumer is the primary driver of their economy.
I will not chastise you too much on this point as not many people know this
Correct logic based upon facts is not a roadblock
I guess if they are counting on Justin to redistribute wealth to them , they can be optimistic for the next few years.
Until the bill comes due and the bill always come due. Much higher taxes down the road (for everyone) to pay for Justin's inability to manage the countries fiancés in a responsible manner
That is a non responsive statement. You lack the intelligence to make a logical fact based counter argument and resort to personal insults
It is the governments job to build infrastructure and provide basic services
Everyone is taxed to pay for this
It is not the governments job to address "Inequality Issues" through taxation
In addition the government needs to be responsible with the tax payers money
Ongoing deficits without a plan for balanced budgets is not responsible.
You talk about lacking common sense
The most basic common sense lesson is you can not continue to spend more than you bring in
Yet we elected Justin a man who can not grasp this concept
What a stupid statement
If you are paying 55% of what you make to a group of people who
1. Pay $10 MM to a murdering terrorist (Fed Liberals)
2. Pay a $ 1B to cancel a contract they negotiated (Ont Liberals)
3. Pay out billions in welfare payments while importing more refugees (Fed Liberals)
4, Drive up the cost of electricity with foolish polices (Ont Liberal)
5. Apply a carbon tax that will likely drive up the tax burden to 60% (Fed Liberals)
6. Tell you that you need to save more for your retirement
7. Layer one cost increase on top of another at your business (Payroll taxes , electricity increases , minimum wage increases , carbon tax)
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etc etc
and there are flaws in the infrastructure , then you bloody well have the right to complain
The Liberals have zero respect for how hard people have to work to generate the tax money they spend and redistribute with such ease
In your dreams maybe
Those subsides you were wrong about then and are wrong about now are applied to all business its called Capital cost Allowance
In 2014 the oil industry generate $Billions more in government revenue than any other industry
he did not subsidise the oil industry.
That is pure bullshit from an uniformed fool named Fuji
Have you found anyone on TERB who thinks your duel currency throttle controlled Franken plan was not the work of an idiot?
No you have not, three years latter because it was the work of an idiot
Quoting a noble prize winner who wrote a paper 13 years ago about currency controls on a state owned oil industry is not relevant to the abortion you proposed for our privately owned oil industry.
he would laugh at your proposed solution
You came up with a stupid idea and can not stomach admitted it was a mess, despite post after post of details (it was illegal for starters) illustrating its flaws
Why pray tell is it not on the agenda for the new NAFTA negotiations?
Because they will not waste time on the workof an idiot that's why
You are an economic fool
If you are not aware of the origin of a quote, just leave it and move forward. Do not pretend that you know it all.
You keep on going on about Trudeau. It is more like hatred the way you express your opinion about him, in spite of him having a more popular rating in the opinion polls, unlike that moron South of the border. Yes,this is the only thing that I agree with you, about the POTUS, although your fellow right wing buddies will get ticked off with you calling him an idiot. Trudeau is smarter than what you give him credit. Trump mentioned that he spent little of his own money in the elections. So is he a liar?
The USA depends on trades with other nations whether you believe it or not. That is a fact, as not everything can be manufactured in the USA. They buy stuff that is manufactured from workers earning less than a dollar an hour. The Americans are not willing to pay for stuff being sold currently for about a dollar, and if it is manufactured in the USA, it would then cost about ten times the price. Again you cannot grasp that certain USA states depend on the Canadian economy, that is why cancelling NAFTA could be an utter disaster for those states. Trade works both ways. Off course you have your own right wing logic on this. But I do not buy this logic that is also spewed out by the Rebel and / or the Sun. Again you go on about much higher taxes to be imposed by Trudeau. In real terms he has decreased the taxes on the middle class and the lower income Canadians. You are the fine one to talk about personal insults as you are the one starting them in the first place. Look at your responses to Fuji. You do not call them insults?
You have also insulted me a few times. So if you cut it out then expect to have more civil responses.
Or if you could put in quotes if it is obscure
Do not tell me what to do if you can not make your self clear
He is the PM and he is making some huge mistakes
jesus !
For the third (and hopefully last time)
What part of "I do not hate Justin, I do not think he is qualified for the job though" " do you not understand?
I do not care about polls at this point in a mandate
I could care less what anyone else thinks
despite your rhetoric many right wing people as you describe them can spot a bullshit artist a mile away
Anyone who spends more than he brings in and has no plan to return to balance is a damn fool. period
Duh
He was born lying
You misunderstood
The US unlike most other developed economies is far less dependant upon trade as the US consumer / domestic consumption are the primary drivers of their economy.
This is a fact and I encourage you to spend some time researching it
If you do not buy this FACT that is your loss
Try some other reputable sources , they will back up the dominance of US consumer / domestic consumption as the primary drivers of their economy
However is tax targeting small business and incomes over 200,000. That is a recipe for economic disaster
Fuji is the most despised person on this board and earns what he receives. He ratted me out and got me banned, all the while lying and insulting me.
Did you think I should treat him with any respect?
You did it first is a child's response
deal with it
likewise if you act more civil you can expect less caustic responses.
Implying I hate Justin despite multiple statements indicating I do not hate him is a just invite for abuse
It's good to see, long overdue. I suspect this is more because of the growth in the US economy than anything the Liberals have done here. They are anti-business.
