Another black man killed by a cop in Atlanta trying to escape arrest

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CNN played the 911 call. Appears to be from inside Wendys (probably a staff member). The dispatcher did ask if "sleeping man" was black.
 

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It will be interesting to see if they can get a jury to vote unanimous in favour of guilty. I would dissent
 

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He couldve stopped running and turned back towards the officer
So we agree. While he was running away, there was no danger to the cop. If, however, Brooks stopped and made a move to the cop, he was fair game.

The fact is that he did not stop. As well, the video shows that the cop was reaching for his gun before Brooks used the taser. Regardless, Brooks was posing zero threat at the time the cop pulled for his gun and pulled the trigger.
 

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So we agree. While he was running away, there was no danger to the cop. If, however, Brooks stopped and made a move to the cop, he was fair game.

The fact is that he did not stop. As well, the video shows that the cop was reaching for his gun before Brooks used the taser. Regardless, Brooks was posing zero threat at the time the cop pulled for his gun and pulled the trigger.
brooks pointed taser at a cop and discharged it a second or two prior to being shot. This is on video, there is a link above.

the cop had no obligation to stop or retreat, he was entitled and indeed it was his obligation to continue pursuit and he had no choice but stay in the zone in which he could have been tasered. The perp had two more charges available. Brooks was posing serious risk to the cop.

This is not a novel legal issue and it even has its own wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule#U.S._law
 

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The fact is that he did not stop. As well, the video shows that the cop was reaching for his gun before Brooks used the taser. Regardless, Brooks was posing zero threat at the time the cop pulled for his gun and pulled the trigger.
So the cop is supposed to wait until the taser is aimed at him before drawing his gun eh? interesting Leftist logic there Eddie.

While the perp was holding the taser he most definitely was a threat. As soon as he aimed it at him his fate was sealed.
 

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brooks pointed taser at a cop and discharged it a second or two prior to being shot. This is on video, there is a link above.

the cop had no obligation to stop or retreat, he was entitled and indeed it was his obligation to continue pursuit and he had no choice but stay in the zone in which he could have been tasered. The perp had two more charges available. Brooks was posing serious risk to the cop.

This is not a novel legal issue and it even has its own wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule#U.S._law
The cop also had no lethal threat to act on by shooting the guy as he ran away.

I don't know what taser they were using but most have only one shot ranged deployment and all other charges need direct contact. That means that if the guy did deploy the taser at range, it was no longer a threat as the guy was running away.

And even if the taser had hit the cop, his buddy was right there to prevent the suspect from doing any harm.
 

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While the perp was holding the taser he most definitely was a threat. As soon as he aimed it at him his fate was sealed.
Pretty sketchy definition of threat considering the cop already did or tried to tase the guy.

As the cop had backup, the only risk to him would be if he fell badly or had a heart arrhythmia.
 

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So we agree. While he was running away, there was no danger to the cop. If, however, Brooks stopped and made a move to the cop, he was fair game.

The fact is that he did not stop. As well, the video shows that the cop was reaching for his gun before Brooks used the taser. Regardless, Brooks was posing zero threat at the time the cop pulled for his gun and pulled the trigger.
No, because as he was running away he still could have aimed the taser back at the cop and fired at him. It's not like you have to stop and then point the taser. You can probably do it just as well as you're running away. Especially from the short distance that he was at
 
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Pretty sketchy definition of threat considering the cop already did or tried to tase the guy.

As the cop had backup, the only risk to him would be if he fell badly or had a heart arrhythmia.
If the cop gets tased by the perp in the eye. Then what?

Do you want to be the one that gets those prongs in the eye? With a jolt of electricity enough to drop a man.

Would you take that chance? Let alone if he hits you in the body you are going straight down probably facing injury.
 

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No, because as he was running away he still could have aimed the taser back at the cop and fired at him. It's not like you have to stop and then point the taser. You can probably do it just as well as you're running away. Especially from the short distance that he was at
He also could have performed a triple axel and toe loop combination and then transitioning to a double solchow with quadruple lutz ending while firing the taser as an added bonus.
 

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Phil C. McNasty said:
No, because as he was running away he still could have aimed the taser back at the cop and fired at him. It's not like you have to stop and then point the taser. You can probably do it just as well as you're running away. Especially from the short distance that he was at


not "could have", that's exactly what he fucking did. While running away, he turned his head and looked at the cop, raised back his hand with a taser and discharged it in the direction of the cop. And immediately got two bullets in his back. It's pretty good police work in my opinion.
 
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I'm not sure why you murderer-apologists need to hear this, but guess what?
Cops aren't supposed to kill guilty people either.
 

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Yea that's not how it works lol
The police could have helped the guy get home. Get a warrant for his arrest at his home when he gets sober a few days later. Or can they issue a ticket to appear in court to face DUI charges?
What kind of intergalactic space-age medication are you overdosing on right now? Drive through this red light and stop twice at the next one ,all good? OK now push the yellow crayon up your nose and go to sleep the grown-ups are talking.
 

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I guess, the only time police are in danger and can use guns is when the criminal is actually firing at them. When criminal simply pointing a gun in their direction, it does not mean that they will fire it, so, wait until you actually hear a shot. Especially if there are two officers on the scene, it is hard to kill both of them, so, one officer will still be able to draw his gun. But if, after shooting one of the officers, the criminal turns around, there is no immediate danger anymore (even if he still has a gun in his hand), so, just let him go and track him later based on the car he was in - hoping it was his car). Anyone see a problem with this logic?
 

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I guess, the only time police are in danger and can use guns is when the criminal is actually firing at them. When criminal simply pointing a gun in their direction, it does not mean that they will fire it, so, wait until you actually hear a shot. Especially if there are two officers on the scene, it is hard to kill both of them, so, one officer will still be able to draw his gun. But if, after shooting one of the officers, the criminal turns around, there is no immediate danger anymore (even if he still has a gun in his hand), so, just let him go and track him later based on the car he was in - hoping it was his car). Anyone see a problem with this logic?
a small problem I can identify is that most bullets travel faster than the speed of sound, so it would be not when you hear the shot but more like when you feel the shot :)

but jokes aside, I think some people here believe that the police should be on some sort of an "equal playing field" with the criminals. That field cannot be equal if we want the police to be able to arrest. The dichotomy "taser is either deadly or it's not" is useless.
Taser has a serious risk of harm, and it's okay for the cop to tase a resisting felon who has to bear that risk because he is a felon, and it's also okay for the cop to shoot in response to being tased, because the cop is not supposed to take that same risk.
If we were to live in some utopia where cops are social workers, things would be very different.
 
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