Another black man killed by a cop in Atlanta trying to escape arrest

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I agree the lead officer should be prosecuted in the Minneapolis case, although not the new other two that were just following directions from him.

The Atlanta case is not as clear since a fleeing felon was shot after assaulting and firing stolen from officer stun gun back at the officers chasing him.
They used lethal force on a guy with a taser, which is not considered a lethal weapon. As well, the victim was running away at that point. He posed no physical threat to the cop at the time he pulled the trigger. Was he incredibly stupid? Yes, but he posed no threat to the cop at the time he was shot.
 

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They used lethal force on a guy with a taser, which is not considered a lethal weapon. As well, the victim was running away at that point. He posed no physical threat to the cop at the time he pulled the trigger. Was he incredibly stupid? Yes, but he posed no threat to the cop at the time he was shot
And what if he and successully tasered the cop and taken his gun??
 

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What about Jerry right here? What's the excuse?
I think these officers are idiots, but Anbarandy and I would disagree about this. The police actions in this video are precisely the solution that Anbarandy has in mind for police in handling situations just like this.

They should have shot the man after he picked up the baton. They should not have let him flee in their vehicle. Maybe the officer became too soft having a female partner. Whatever the case may be, it makes those cops look stupid and weak, reflects poorly on their department, and having a perp like that on the loose endangers everyone else.
 

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This one problematic. Clearly resisted arrest, despite being treated professionally, takes one of their weapons away and shoots it at the cops. This is not a case to hang your protests on. The arrestee had multiple chances to prevent this outcome - chose to resist, chose to fight, chose to take the taser, chose to fire it at the cops. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. 4 really bad decisions. Then burning down the Wendy's compounds the stupidity.

Was shooting him required though? That's the tricky part. I would think not. But in the Monday morning quarterbacking when time slows down and you can stop and think logically not pressed for split second decisions it seems there might have been a few more options. But unfortunately this event happens in real time, split seconds, and under those circumstances the shooting could be reasonable.
 
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This is a tough one. He assaulted both officers. Stole his taser, then started running, the turns and fires the taser. That's the critical point. It's a heat of the moment situation. If a cop sees a weapon being pointed at him, his instinct is to fire. I don't know why they can't try and shoot someone in the leg so it's not fatal. I disagree that he wasn't a danger, not so much to the cops but to the greater public. Here's the scenario. He might have been under the influence so not thinking clearly and has assaulted police and stole a taser. If they let him run away and wait for back up many things can happen. Because of what he's done he could be desperate. He could try and take someone car's to get away and if he's under the influence who knows how many people he could have hurt or killed trying to flee. It's not black and white like the George Floyd death was. There is a lot of grey here.
Why didn't he shoot him in the leg? Because a leg is a small moving target that is hard to hit. Cops are trained, when they feel their life is in danger, to shoot "center mass", which is the best chance to actually hit the target and immobilize them. If they find the target is wearing a kevlar vest, then the cop shoots at the head. A much harder target, but the only one that has the best chance of working in that situation.

I agree there are a lot of grey areas in the right or wrong of the cop's action in this incident.
 

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Next time the good citizens of Atlanta should call the mayor. She seems to be one of those know it all.

Don't know about Atlanta but I did a rough estimate of blacks killed by police versus blacks killed by other blacks here in Toronto in the past 10 years.

Blacks killed by police = 20 (probably all or almost all justified)

Blacks killed by other blacks = 400 (assuming an average 40 per year)

However it seems some people think it is worse to be killed by police than killed by another black when the dead person is just as dead in both scenarios.
 

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I think these officers are idiots, but Anbarandy and I would disagree about this. The police actions in this video are precisely the solution that Anbarandy has in mind for police in handling situations just like this.

They should have shot the man after he picked up the baton. They should not have let him flee in their vehicle. Maybe the officer became too soft having a female partner. Whatever the case may be, it makes those cops look stupid and weak, reflects poorly on their department, and having a perp like that on the loose endangers everyone else.
The bigger issue is there are consistency problems (or too much consistency for some and not enough others).
 

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LOL.
You have no shame.
What shame is there in stating that the incident was a wrongful death and that such occurrences are rare?
 

Anbarandy

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Due process of Justice THEN - prior to the shooting and killing of the black man:

1) 1 count for the still living black man - DUI or equivalent

2) 1 count for the still living black man - resist arrest

3) 2 counts for the still living black man - assault peace officers

4) 1 count for the still living black man - assault peace officer with a weapon

5) 1 count for the still living black man - fleeing peace officers or it's Georgia criminal code equivalent





Due process of Justice NOW:

1) 1 count for the cop that shot and killed the black man - manslaughter or murder 3rd degree

2) 1 count for each cop - failure to provide duty and care for life or it's Georgia criminal code equivalents

3) 1 count for each cop - obstruct justice/investigation
 

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Had the victim been a white kid ,..passed out in his car or on the grass , In some middle class college town , the cops would have taken away his keys , called mommy or daddy to pick him up , or ordered up a cab to take him home . No charges . Murdering a guy who was essentially neutralized , by virtue of the fact that he was asleep , must have taken an inordinate amount of prodding and unnecessary agitation , to whip the victim into an agitated state . Serious lack of any judgement on the part of the cops ,.., Of course in the USA , the lower the IQ, the better odds of becoming a cop. Just look at the furrowed eyebrows and blank gazes in their mugshots . Brain dead fuckers
 

Anbarandy

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Had the victim been a white kid ,..passed out in his car or on the grass , In some middle class college town , the cops would have taken away his keys , called mommy or daddy to pick him up , or ordered up a cab to take him home . No charges .
You sir are absolutely correct.
 

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What shame is there in stating that the incident was a wrongful death and that such occurrences are rare?
You should be ashamed that you are trying to pass off a cold-blooded murder as a 'rare accident'.
Actually, with your past history of trolling, it's not a surprise.
 
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