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Clear data. Wait, I think data & evidence is offensive no?
Prove this with evidence. Scientific studies etc..
It's pretty damn hard to say EQ is a reliable indicator of success when you yourself said, "You are correct that EQ cannot be scientifically measured".
Einstein, "indicators" are measurable. You know that right? Yet you say EQ is a 'reliable' (somehow without being measured) 'indictor' (that always changes because...cannot be measured).
Do you even read what you write or are you just happy being complete out to lunch?
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selecting a student for admission based on his / her skin color is racial bias
rejecting a student for admission based on his / her skin color is racial bias
affirmative action does both
Yes, yes, the data - sometimes called evidence - absolutely shows no selection for racial bias.
But please, feel free to show evidence to back up your opinion. (despite the US SC stating that AA is racial bias)
As I said many times before, race is one of many factors in an admissions decision. Not the only factor. If it was the only factor, you could argue discrimination. But it is not. It is the entire package. Affirmative action only ensures that when searching for qualified people, for a certain number of seats, they search from certain specific groups. The ones who qualify are just as deserving to be there as anyone else. You and John Larue are racists, so you will never see it for what it is. And I have no interest in engaging with racist drivel.
No. Selection for immutable traits like race as part of ANY package is discrimination. Minimizing it does not change that fact.
Plus, I have the data to back up my opinion that race IS the primary determinant given the wide disparities in the Harvard selection process. What do you have to back up or provide evidence for your opinion? Nothing.
Your argument is so weak you throw out charges of racism merely because you see disagreement. Very intellectual.
if marks are an insufficient admission criteria, the next logical criteria is character
as per Dr. king character judgement is independent of race
an "unique profile " is but a presentation of a persons character
as per Dr. king character judgement is independent of race
you need to start understanding the best way to reduce racism is to stop defining people by race
2000 applicants to a program, with a capacity of 500
the top 500 best set of marks gets in, independent of race
if race is a factor in any way shape or form , it is discriminatory
Again the objective is to eliminate discrimination
and once again a loony lefty runs out of factual arguments, defaults to calling anyone who opposes him as a racist and then runs away
this must be mandatory training be in the Lonny left playbook as it happens over and over again
you are an ideologue, incapable of taking an objective view and drilling down into issues
shoo .... run away now
Affirmative action in Canada.
Jamie Sarkonak: American universities see end to affirmative action. Not so in Canada (msn.com)
Jamie Sarkonak: American universities see end to affirmative action. Not so in Canada (msn.com)
U of T collecting race based data.
"Diversity and inclusion
The university collects identity-based demographic information about currently-enrolled students through the Student Equity Census."
The Breakdown: U of T’s 2021–2022 enrolment report – The Varsity
"Diversity and inclusion
The university collects identity-based demographic information about currently-enrolled students through the Student Equity Census."
The Breakdown: U of T’s 2021–2022 enrolment report – The Varsity
I can assure our wokie friends that their fear of U of T being overrun by white students is completely unfounded.
My university roommate's daughter is currently attending the U of T and she confirms that the majority of the students in her classes are non-white. Plus, I often drive her to and from school and I can see with my own eyes that the majority of the students are non-white.
My university roommate's daughter is currently attending the U of T and she confirms that the majority of the students in her classes are non-white. Plus, I often drive her to and from school and I can see with my own eyes that the majority of the students are non-white.
"U of T’s international population also demonstrates racial diversity. Students from more than 170 countries and regions are enrolled in the university, with greater international enrolment in first-entry undergrad programs, at UTSG, and at UTM. U of T’s international enrolment percentage, 28.8 per cent, is similar to that of other Canadian universities."
McGill's current target is 30%. It was 15% when I was there.
McGill's current target is 30%. It was 15% when I was there.
Ivey League universities have sports team but they (technically) do not offer athletics scholarships.
Do Ivy League Schools Offer Athletic Scholarships? Check It Out! (collegeathleteinsight.com)
GOP’s targeting of minority scholarships signals new effort to thwart campus diversity: columnist
Shortly after the Supreme Court on Thursday effectively gutted affirmative action in college admissions, one of Wisconsin’s top elected state officials signaled interest in attacking other ways colleges promote campus diversity.Wisconsin state Assembly Speaker Robin Vos (R) suggested cutting...
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that is a idealistic position & a little difficult position to argue against
be sure to consider
in the USA , eliminating legacy admissions will reduce Alumni donations , which is huge in the USA
eliminating sports admissions would put $ billions at risk for the NCAA
reduced scholarships, & reduced $ for faculty, research & facilities & likely fewer overall admissions
there is a cost for everything desired
that is driven by revenue
international tuition is significantly higher vs domestic tuition
Tuition fees by university - Universities Canada (univcan.ca)
| University | Undergraduate - Canadian Students | Undergraduate - Foreign Students | Graduate - Canadian Students | Graduate - Foreign Students |
|---|
| McGill University | $2,797 - $8,730 | $19,886 - $31,500 | $2,797 - $8,730 | $17,193 - $27,011 |
| University of Toronto | $6,100 - $11,760 | $41,540 - $61,350 | $6,210 - $10,350 | $6,210 - $43,990 |
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