Affirmative Action

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"U of T’s international population also demonstrates racial diversity. Students from more than 170 countries and regions are enrolled in the university, with greater international enrolment in first-entry undergrad programs, at UTSG, and at UTM. U of T’s international enrolment percentage, 28.8 per cent, is similar to that of other Canadian universities."

McGill's current target is 30%. It was 15% when I was there.

 

[Darts]

I agree. There should be no consideration other than merit. That includes legacies, daddy donations, sports, volunteer hours etc.

Ivey League universities have sports team but they (technically) do not offer athletics scholarships.
Do Ivy League Schools Offer Athletic Scholarships? Check It Out! (collegeathleteinsight.com)

 

[mandrill]

GOP’s targeting of minority scholarships signals new effort to thwart campus diversity: columnist

Shortly after the Supreme Court on Thursday effectively gutted affirmative action in college admissions, one of Wisconsin’s top elected state officials signaled interest in attacking other ways colleges promote campus diversity.Wisconsin state Assembly Speaker Robin Vos (R) suggested cutting...

www.rawstory.com

 

[JohnLarue]

I agree. There should be no consideration other than merit. That includes legacies, daddy donations, sports, volunteer hours etc.

that is a idealistic position & a little difficult position to argue against

be sure to consider
in the USA , eliminating legacy admissions will reduce Alumni donations , which is huge in the USA
eliminating sports admissions would put $ billions at risk for the NCAA

reduced scholarships, & reduced $ for faculty, research & facilities & likely fewer overall admissions

there is a cost for everything desired

 

[JohnLarue]

"U of T’s international population also demonstrates racial diversity. Students from more than 170 countries and regions are enrolled in the university, with greater international enrolment in first-entry undergrad programs, at UTSG, and at UTM. U of T’s international enrolment percentage, 28.8 per cent, is similar to that of other Canadian universities."

McGill's current target is 30%. It was 15% when I was there.

that is driven by revenue
international tuition is significantly higher vs domestic tuition

Tuition fees by university - Universities Canada (univcan.ca)

University	Undergraduate - Canadian Students	Undergraduate - Foreign Students	Graduate - Canadian Students	Graduate - Foreign Students

McGill University

$2,797 - $8,730

$19,886 - $31,500

$2,797 - $8,730

$17,193 - $27,011

University of Toronto

$6,100 - $11,760

$41,540 - $61,350

$6,210 - $10,350

$6,210 - $43,990

 

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I wish they have affirmative action in sports. That would give a beer league player like me a chance to play for the Maple Leafs. LOL!

 

[Dutch Oven]

Yes, but how do these interesting low scorers perform once they get in these schools? And if they manage to graduate, how do they perform once they're in those highly paid jobs?

The affirmative action must continue for the rest of their lives. It has to, or else they will just fail further down the road.

That's why employers also have diversity requirements. Admission, graduation, hiring, and promotion must all be geared towards diversity, not merit.

An incompetent person will be discovered eventually, unless everyone agrees to keep up the charade. The Emperor's new clothes must be worn forever.

All part of the degeneration of our society.

 

[Darts]

I won't make any comments, I'll just put this out there.
ABORIGINAL EMPLOYMENT PREFERENCES POLICY (chrc-ccdp.gc.ca)

 

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"Education, especially STEM. Indian immigrants are among the most highly educated in the US;"
Opinion: 9 reasons the Indian CEO keeps coming to the rescue | CNN Business

 

[basketcase]

For those that advocate for "non-Academic achievement", that is, extra curriculars, the New York Times has an excellent article on this. Guess what!!! The wealthy have more time and opportunity for extra-curriculars so guess who succeeds more..


The wealth have no significant advantage in academic ratings...however, extra curriculars? BINGO!
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Who knew placing an emphasis on non-standards would benefit the rich?

I've heard the argument made (though I don't know how convinced I am) that the move towards non-academic factors in admissions was in part an attempt to hard working minorities from getting too many admission spots. Whether it was intentional or not, it's much easier to get prestigious certification like the Duke of Edinburgh when you don't have to work a part time job.

 

[Not getting younger]

Do some research on class mobility. Especially in the U.K. The land of the aristocracy and blue bloods. Not much has changed……

I am not quite sure why, people can’t figure out that in the end, it’s not about pigments. Those with money make the rules. At its simplest, consider how many options nuclear families have to shelter money from taxation. Then consider how many of the peons can find two nickels to shelter money…Then consider……….

As far as academia goes. These days? “Really? All kinds of studies on devaluing education, and what is increasingly become watered down pedigrees.

But one.
Credential inflation.

Credential Inflation and Decredentialization: Re-examining the Mechanism of the Devaluation of Degrees

Abstract. Sociologists have long used credential inflation theory to explain the devaluation of tertiary education degrees as the consequence of the excess

academic.oup.com