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DB123

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I know...I can read :)

On that note I certainly wasn't trying to be offensive before (I actually doubt you were offended since you seem to be able to read AND have a sense humour) and your looks and service are phenomenal.
 

CapitalGuy

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Kind of hard to equate buying groceries with buying sex. Its not a mainstream industry, and the mainstream norms of conduct simply aren't going to apply so directly. Its simply not the same, and you are simply not going to get a uniform set of customer behaviours, the way a grocery store will.
 

HEYHEY

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"I believe that the reason I have so much repeat business and have been very successful in this industry for as long as I have is not just because of my cock sucking ability, etc., but my great conversational skills as well as genuineness. "

now thats funny! :rofl:
 

elmo

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Sophia - you chose this business, take the good with the bad. We don't need a lecture because you can't deal with customers. Get over yourself.
 
Kind of hard to equate buying groceries with buying sex. Its not a mainstream industry, and the mainstream norms of conduct simply aren't going to apply so directly. Its simply not the same, and you are simply not going to get a uniform set of customer behaviours, the way a grocery store will.
CapitalGuy, I completely disagree with you on this point.

I believe, especially having worked at many different jobs and in many different levels of authority (I was going to say positions but we all know where that would lead) over the years, that grocery stores or any other mainstream businesses as you refer to them, get all kinds of customers as well. In other words, mainstream does not equate standard/normal. I used to work at a Shoppers Drug Mart in a low income part of the GTA and the owner was very aware that not all of the customers who frequented it were exactly ideal. Fortunately for the staff he sided with us when the so called normal standard of behviour was not exhibited by such said customers. Not all bosses would be as understanding as he was and we were very grateful for it as it made our lives/jobs much easier. I don't, nor did he, make excuses for poor behaviour!

Having said that, I want to make it clear here that I don't hold the behaviour of some hobbyists against all men as they are simply not representative of all hobbyists/men.

Regardless of whether a situation is mainstream or not, I choose to conduct myself in the same manner at all times and therefore interact/engage with/treat my garbage collector the same way I interact/engage with/treat my doctor. This however is a reflection on myself and my value system. Simply said, if everyone acted this way, as some more mature, self respecting and therefore respectful in general people do, then interactions in general would run more smoothly.

My message is simply intended to enlighten those hobbyists who do conduct themselves in a less than desirable manner as to how to get better results, not just from myself, but other providers/ladies as well. Honey, and a little work/research on the part of the hobbyist, gets the Bee so to speak. Surely hobbyists can relate to this last statement, as evidenced by the number of posts on this very board that are responded to with, "Have you tried the Search button/feature?".
 
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"I believe that the reason I have so much repeat business and have been very successful in this industry for as long as I have is not just because of my cock sucking ability, etc., but my great conversational skills as well as genuineness. "

now thats funny! :rofl:

Why is that so funny HEYHEY?

There are gentlemen who book 4 hour dinner dates with me. The first two hours are spent enjoying good food/wine, good company and good conversation. The last two are spent enjoying good playtime, whatever that may consist of. Even 1 hour clients often want to spend a few minutes on the couch sipping some wine and chatting/catching up, then making out like teenagers before we move on to more adult play.

As for genuineness, as witnessed by my genuine, albeit somewhat lost effort here to afford hobbyists a view into the service provider side of things, I get an A for effort if nothing else.

P.S. Ford for Mayor :rofl:
 

Curious36

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As someone mentioned previously, you have to take the good with the bad. Its simply business. Business is a competitive beast. People have choices and, as such, will try to maximize their money and convenience/service. I have several large customers who I cater to whom I dont go by the book in terms of hours or service. Why? Because others would love to have them as clients and repeat business is the best kind of business.
My advice to you is take the personal out of the equation and look at the business reasons why. Once you make the transaction you can be as personal as you choose :)
 

Luton

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Why we see sps vary from person to person. The sex is one aspect that we all have in common but then there are a myriad of other reasons that will compel us to see one sp over another. I have been lucky enough to have seen Sophia, and yes the sex is great, but what will make me repeat with her is the personal connection I have found with her. I like her and I believe she also likes me (even if it might be an illusion on my part). I don't see a great number of sps but tend to visit the same ones because the ones I see I feel close towards. I enjoy and like them as people as well as the service they provide. I have always respected them and most sps reciprocate if treated with respect.
 
Sophia - you chose this business, take the good with the bad. We don't need a lecture because you can't deal with customers. Get over yourself.
I can assure you elmo (is that tickle me?) that there is no need to get over myself as the majority of ladies feel the way I do, they're just not willing to put their necks on the line in the manner I have chosen in order to convey these sentiments. How do I know this, by conversations with other providers in the past/present, our own sections provided on some boards to inform each other of good/bad clients and the ongoing support I have received via PM from them. By the way, it may shock you to know that some hobbyists have also PMd me to state, and I quote, "well said", etc. No, this does not mean that they are "(cute) bum kissers", it simply means that they get it, so apparently not all members feel the way you do. Your reaction however does not surprise me as often any attempt to educate will be met with contempt on the part of those who don't like the message. I have no control over how you interpret my thoughts. I meant it to be educational, as stated in the post, yet you take it to be a lecture. All I can suggest here is that if you don't like what's on the telly, change the channel. No one forced you to read the post and if you chose to read and then comment on it, that's your right, as it was mine to post it in the first place. I believe it is called "Freedom of the Press".

You are however correct in that I did choose to get into this line of work, and like many of their chosen career, did not know exactly everything I was signing up for. Experience has taught me otherwise and believe you me, I deal with customers just fine, as evidenced by my reviews both here and elsewhere. Just as this industry has taught me many things, and will hopefully continue to do so, hobbyists can also learn from their experiences in and around this industry. Silly me for thinking some hobbyists might benefit form my insight as a service provider.

P.S. Some hobbyists like it when I lecture to them. Mind you, I'm usually wearing a hot secretary outfit with glasses, etc. and am commanding them to do naughty things. Just a FYI.
 
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As someone mentioned previously, you have to take the good with the bad. Its simply business. Business is a competitive beast. People have choices and, as such, will try to maximize their money and convenience/service. I have several large customers who I cater to whom I dont go by the book in terms of hours or service. Why? Because others would love to have them as clients and repeat business is the best kind of business.
My advice to you is take the personal out of the equation and look at the business reasons why. Once you make the transaction you can be as personal as you choose :)

Thank You Curious36!

This advice I will take to heart as it is conveyed in a manner that is conducive to the learning process. How something is communicated makes a big difference in how it is received.

However, one has to take the time to properly read a statement, which requires one to read it in it's entirety and to sometimes even read it twice, in order to fully interpret it's meaning. Only then can they react accordingly to the true point of the posting. Unfortunately, not everyone can/is willing to do this, but we all know that this only happens elsewhere, and never here on TERB :rolleyes:.

P.S. The smiley face really helped so I wanted to give you a pretend it's naked :dance: back.
 
Why we see sps vary from person to person. The sex is one aspect that we all have in common but then there are a myriad of other reasons that will compel us to see one sp over another. I have been lucky enough to have seen Sophia, and yes the sex is great, but what will make me repeat with her is the personal connection I have found with her. I like her and I believe she also likes me (even if it might be an illusion on my part). I don't see a great number of sps but tend to visit the same ones because the ones I see I feel close towards. I enjoy and like them as people as well as the service they provide. I have always respected them and most sps reciprocate if treated with respect.
Truer words have never been spoken Luton and although I know that you like and respect me, I also know that I'm not your ATF. I believe she may go by the intials MF. Please correct me if I'm wrong. In answer to your doubts Luton, I would definitely repeat with you, so yes I do genuinely like you. Now the question becomes one of whether or not you think MF might like me and if a threesome could ever arise from this mutual liking? Food for thought Luton. :)
 

Luton

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Truer words have never been spoken Luton and although I know that you like and respect me, I also know that I'm not your ATF. I believe she may go by the intials MF. Please correct me if I'm wrong. In answer to your doubts Luton, I would definitely repeat with you, so yes I do genuinely like you. Now the question becomes one of whether or not you think MF might like me and if a threesome could ever arise from this mutual liking? Food for thought Luton. :)
Sophia, I have never hidden the fact how much I enjoy seeing Malika, but I have also enjoyed Effie, Sydney deSade, Veronica Lodge and yourself. If you lived downtown my visits to you would be more regular since I live downtown. I have no doubt MF would like you and a threesome is definitely food for thought.:D
 

johnbeverley

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Terbites,

This should go without saying, but apparently there is a need to state here what I feel is normal and obvious, but clearly is not to many others in today's world.


When a bank, grocery store or any other business states their hours of operation on their doors, do you think that 9 am - 5 pm means that they allow people in before 9 am or past 5 pm? I would hope that your answer would unequivocally be no and most assuredly in the case of banks as we all know their 9 am or 5 pm is not our 9 am or 5 pm. So why do you think that "I start answering my personal cell at 8 am, begin seeing clients at 10 am & stop answering my cell at 9 pm, the end of my work day, Monday to Friday" means that I see my last client starting at 9 pm or start answering my cell before 8 am or on weekends, etc.?

Do you go into a bar/lounge that has a dress code/age limit and argue with them as to why that is? You may not like it, but unless you're going to take on that big bouncer, and chances are if you're sober you won't, you accept that and go somewhere else. Why then do I get so many young men private messaging, emailing and texting me, etc. as to why I prefer men a certain age or older? I have my reasons and should not have to explain them to anyone! Please accept that and move on.

Do you ask your server, who is super friendly and professional like myself, what their real name is, just in case their using a made up one on their name tag, how long they have been a waitress/bartendress, if they are in a relationship or not, where they live, if they rent or own, how much their rent or mortgage is, etc. upon first meeting them and after sitting in their section or at their bar for only five minutes? Okay, some might, especially if into their cups and she is really cute, again like me, but I am sure most would not. I get the need to feel like you know me on some level, but why ask me these very personal and really inappropriate questions without even assessing whether we are compatible in other more basic ways first or if you even plan on seeing me again? This is equivalent to a dancer asking if you want a dance before you have even sat down and gotten a drink. I know better than to pry into client's private lives unless invited to do so and would ask for the same understanding!

Do you go into a restaurant and ask the server if you can substitute cauliflower for broccoli, which is not even listed anywhere on the menu, not because of an allergy, but simply because you prefer cauliflower, when the menu clearly states no substitutions unless due to an allergy. If we are going to be honest here, some people would lie and say they have an allergy just to try and get what they want, but most people could live without their preference that one time or would simply go to a restaurant that does serve cauliflower. How then does "if I do not list it, please do not request it, as I do not partake of/in it" translate into any multitude of requests for things not listed on the "Services" page of my website or even things that I flat out say I do not do? Trust me when I say that buttering me up first with compliments about how hot I look in my pictures and how great my reviews are is not going to get you carte blanche menu wise! It may get you other things, but not that.

When you see any other professional whose services you really need/enjoy with a limited amount of time to devote to you, do you then proceed to try to chat them up for fifteen minutes after the end of your session/meeting in an attempt to prolong the time you have with them? My guess would be yes, but that when they say sorry your time is up as I have other people waiting or I really have to go somewhere/do something you respect that and leave. Why then do you not listen when I say the same thing? I deserve the same respect that they do and this goes for cancellations as well! Just because I cannot/do not charge for cancellations like some doctors/dentists do, does not mean that I do not deserve the same consideration when cancelling.


I know that what is common sense to me may not be so to others and that most problems arise from peoples sheer laziness/inability to properly read ads, etc., but common courtesy is a must in any relationship, especially one so intimate! How one approaches a situation can mean the difference between getting what they really want and not and this industry is no exception to that rule. Unfortunately many seem to have forgotten this.

I have tried to use everyday examples to put some men's behaviour into perspective for them, so that they can see how absurd their actions come across to myself and I think all of us Ladies, using some tongue in cheek of course to lighten the message. I hope that they can approach it with an open mind and take it as it is intended, which is not a rant, but an attempt to educate!

After all that, THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART to those of you who Truly are GENTLEMEN and who RESPECT my Boundaries and Comfort Level and APPRECIATE what it is that I try to do for you!

Sincerely,
Miss Sinful Sophia
First off, I have to say I like your writing skills ...and I am not buttering you up for a change of menu or something else.

In any business, you should expect bad apples (and for that matter everywhere and this board included). All you need to do is just weed them out, i.e. blocked calls, etc. No need for an argument. Don't let them spoil your day.

I would like to add to the fact that being a gentleman has nothing to do with age, but with education, upbringing, social skills, etc. although I would tend to agree that being older (and hopefully more mature), there is a tendency for one to act in a more gentle manner due to testosterone level change.
 
might have to call you on that one .... how many gentlemen of varying ages do you communicate with on a daily basis? Age most certainly does have something to do with it. I see / chat with / email / fuck / parent men of all ages. Trust me ... gentlemen under the age of 25 are exceedingly rare. Sort of like unicorns. LoL

Back to Sophia. I'm one of those ladies who agrees with you ( for the most part ). I do my booking via email so I get a chance to chat a bit back and forth, get an idea of who I'm dealing with.

I don't make up bogus stories for my clients either. But I'm a screener... and someone I don't feel comfortable sharing some info with rarely makes it to my bed. That's not to say I spill my guts for every client, but some do indeed know my real name, where I live etc.

I guess my best advice for the guys it to take her lead. Chat with her if she's feeling chatty, but don't ask for more info than what she volunteers.
Miss Jessica Lee,

Thanx for joining me on the Gangplank! LOL

P.S. I have the same Missus Claus panties in my wardrobe. I'll have to break them out for another Xmas season.
 

doggee_01

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Miss Jessica Lee,

Thanx for joining me on the Gangplank! LOL

P.S. I have the same Missus Claus panties in my wardrobe. I'll have to break them out for another Xmas season.
sinsul santa sophia....has a nice ring to it........i will have to check out those panties :)
 

jiiimmm

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Sophia, I'm sure there are some really good stories behind this post....when you write the book please sign me up for an autographed copy.
 

Vermeer27

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Interacting with sex workers brings out the worst in a certain kind of man. Knowing that a woman is open-minded sexually (for a price) implies to them that she has no feelings. Some men just plain don't know how to talk to chicks, and their boorishnes is camouflaged shyness insecurity on inexperience. In the last season of Boardwalk Empire a male character told a female character "maybe I just don't understand women" She replies something to the effect of "think of yourself: the things you want and expect...now picture yourself in a dress."
 

shack

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When a bank, grocery store or any other business states their hours of operation on their doors, do you think that 9 am - 5 pm means that they allow people in before 9 am or past 5 pm?

Do you go into a bar/lounge that has a dress code/age limit and argue with them as to why that is?

Do you ask your server, who is super friendly and professional like myself, what their real name is, just in case their using a made up one on their name tag, how long they have been a waitress/bartendress, if they are in a relationship or not, where they live, if they rent or own, how much their rent or mortgage is,

Do you go into a restaurant and ask the server if you can substitute cauliflower for broccoli, which is not even listed anywhere on the menu, not because of an allergy, but simply because you prefer cauliflower, when the menu clearly states no substitutions unless due to an allergy.

When you see any other professional whose services you really need/enjoy with a limited amount of time to devote to you, do you then proceed to try to chat them up for fifteen minutes after the end of your session/meeting in an attempt to prolong the time you have with them?

I have tried to use everyday examples

Not saying you are wrong or you treat your clients poorly, but it brings to mind so many posts of guys bitching about the way they've gotten dicked around by SP's/agencies and the classic answer that is supposed to explain it all away is:
THIS BUSINESS IS LIKE NO OTHER.

It means rude behaviour should be accepted because it is johns dealing with prostitutes.
 
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