Accept & Respect

[doggee_01]

Not saying you are wrong or you treat your clients poorly, but it brings to mind so many posts of guys bitching about the way they've gotten dicked around by SP's/agencies and the classic answer that is supposed to explain it all away is:
THIS BUSINESS IS LIKE NO OTHER.

It means rude behaviour should be accepted because it is johns dealing with prostitutes.

sorry...got to disagree there is no need for rude behaviour on any side.

 

[Titalian]

Terbites,

This should go without saying, but apparently there is a need to state here what I feel is normal and obvious, but clearly is not to many others in today's world.

When a bank, grocery store or any other business states their hours of operation on their doors, do you think that 9 am - 5 pm means that they allow people in before 9 am or past 5 pm? I would hope that your answer would unequivocally be no and most assuredly in the case of banks as we all know their 9 am or 5 pm is not our 9 am or 5 pm. So why do you think that "I start answering my personal cell at 8 am, begin seeing clients at 10 am & stop answering my cell at 9 pm, the end of my work day, Monday to Friday" means that I see my last client starting at 9 pm or start answering my cell before 8 am or on weekends, etc.?

Do you go into a bar/lounge that has a dress code/age limit and argue with them as to why that is? You may not like it, but unless you're going to take on that big bouncer, and chances are if you're sober you won't, you accept that and go somewhere else. Why then do I get so many young men private messaging, emailing and texting me, etc. as to why I prefer men a certain age or older? I have my reasons and should not have to explain them to anyone! Please accept that and move on.

Do you ask your server, who is super friendly and professional like myself, what their real name is, just in case their using a made up one on their name tag, how long they have been a waitress/bartendress, if they are in a relationship or not, where they live, if they rent or own, how much their rent or mortgage is, etc. upon first meeting them and after sitting in their section or at their bar for only five minutes? Okay, some might, especially if into their cups and she is really cute, again like me, but I am sure most would not. I get the need to feel like you know me on some level, but why ask me these very personal and really inappropriate questions without even assessing whether we are compatible in other more basic ways first or if you even plan on seeing me again? This is equivalent to a dancer asking if you want a dance before you have even sat down and gotten a drink. I know better than to pry into client's private lives unless invited to do so and would ask for the same understanding!

Do you go into a restaurant and ask the server if you can substitute cauliflower for broccoli, which is not even listed anywhere on the menu, not because of an allergy, but simply because you prefer cauliflower, when the menu clearly states no substitutions unless due to an allergy. If we are going to be honest here, some people would lie and say they have an allergy just to try and get what they want, but most people could live without their preference that one time or would simply go to a restaurant that does serve cauliflower. How then does "if I do not list it, please do not request it, as I do not partake of/in it" translate into any multitude of requests for things not listed on the "Services" page of my website or even things that I flat out say I do not do? Trust me when I say that buttering me up first with compliments about how hot I look in my pictures and how great my reviews are is not going to get you carte blanche menu wise! It may get you other things, but not that.

When you see any other professional whose services you really need/enjoy with a limited amount of time to devote to you, do you then proceed to try to chat them up for fifteen minutes after the end of your session/meeting in an attempt to prolong the time you have with them? My guess would be yes, but that when they say sorry your time is up as I have other people waiting or I really have to go somewhere/do something you respect that and leave. Why then do you not listen when I say the same thing? I deserve the same respect that they do and this goes for cancellations as well! Just because I cannot/do not charge for cancellations like some doctors/dentists do, does not mean that I do not deserve the same consideration when cancelling.

I know that what is common sense to me may not be so to others and that most problems arise from peoples sheer laziness/inability to properly read ads, etc., but common courtesy is a must in any relationship, especially one so intimate! How one approaches a situation can mean the difference between getting what they really want and not and this industry is no exception to that rule. Unfortunately many seem to have forgotten this.

I have tried to use everyday examples to put some men's behaviour into perspective for them, so that they can see how absurd their actions come across to myself and I think all of us Ladies, using some tongue in cheek of course to lighten the message. I hope that they can approach it with an open mind and take it as it is intended, which is not a rant, but an attempt to educate!

After all that, THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART to those of you who Truly are GENTLEMEN and who RESPECT my Boundaries and Comfort Level and APPRECIATE what it is that I try to do for you!

Sincerely,
Miss Sinful Sophia

might have to call you on that one .... how many gentlemen of varying ages do you communicate with on a daily basis? Age most certainly does have something to do with it. I see / chat with / email / fuck / parent men of all ages. Trust me ... gentlemen under the age of 25 are exceedingly rare. Sort of like unicorns. LoL

Back to Sophia. I'm one of those ladies who agrees with you ( for the most part ). I do my booking via email so I get a chance to chat a bit back and forth, get an idea of who I'm dealing with.

I don't make up bogus stories for my clients either. But I'm a screener... and someone I don't feel comfortable sharing some info with rarely makes it to my bed. That's not to say I spill my guts for every client, but some do indeed know my real name, where I live etc.

I guess my best advice for the guys it to take her lead. Chat with her if she's feeling chatty, but don't ask for more info than what she volunteers.

If ever I were to leave this biz (hopefully one day!), these are the two women, I would never forget. Hardheaded, forthright, intelligent, mature and sexual, and just a plain joy to be with. The sex is fun, but the communication, even better.

 

[shack]

sorry...got to disagree there is no need for rude behaviour on any side.

I agree 100%. I was just pointing out the most common lame excuse used as justification.

 

[surferboy]

Jeez what a day i had.After pleading with my bank manager to stay open late cause i'm such a good customer i had to go for a drink & cool off.Figured i needed to relax so i went to a 30+ establishment & accidently left my ID in the car.Had to argue with this thickheaded doorman i was born in the 70's & was really 30+.

Things got better though,this really cute server took my order.But after bringing me my drink she got all weired out when i asked her some simple questions like was Kelly her real name,how serious of a relationship she was in,where she lived,what kind of car did she drive,did she like the smell of chloroform etc. Enough of her attitude,i decided to try a new restaurant around the block.So i order steak & crab & the waitress points to the bottom of the menu "NO Substitutions" & i'm like wtf crab & lobster are like cousins they won't mind.Not winning so i put on my best sad face & say putty please.Still nothing,even after i complimented her on her beautiful smile when she got my drink order.Damn there's no changing her mind.

After finishing my dinner & still a little stressed i called my fav RMT & asked if she could give me a qwik rub down.Got in my car & turned on the heated seat to high & decided i didn't need a massage.Prolly should have called to cancel,but hey that would be too much effort.

And now i gotta read this post from a women who i have to pay to have sex with!!! Geez the nerve of some people lol



Interesting post SS,gives guys a little insight into what you girls have to deal with & why some girls will only work for agencies or quit the biz.

 

[Sophia Sinclair]

Interacting with sex workers brings out the worst in a certain kind of man. Knowing that a woman is open-minded sexually (for a price) implies to them that she has no feelings. Some men just plain don't know how to talk to chicks, and their boorishnes is camouflaged shyness insecurity on inexperience. In the last season of Boardwalk Empire a male character told a female character "maybe I just don't understand women" She replies something to the effect of "think of yourself: the things you want and expect...now picture yourself in a dress."

Too True Vermeer27!

Jeez what a day i had.After pleading with my bank manager to stay open late cause i'm such a good customer i had to go for a drink & cool off.Figured i needed to relax so i went to a 30+ establishment & accidently left my ID in the car.Had to argue with this thickheaded doorman i was born in the 70's & was really 30+.

Things got better though,this really cute server took my order.But after bringing me my drink she got all weired out when i asked her some simple questions like was Kelly her real name,how serious of a relationship she was in,where she lived,what kind of car did she drive,did she like the smell of chloroform etc. Enough of her attitude,i decided to try a new restaurant around the block.So i order steak & crab & the waitress points to the bottom of the menu "NO Substitutions" & i'm like wtf crab & lobster are like cousins they won't mind.Not winning so i put on my best sad face & say putty please.Still nothing,even after i complimented her on her beautiful smile when she got my drink order.Damn there's no changing her mind.

After finishing my dinner & still a little stressed i called my fav RMT & asked if she could give me a qwik rub down.Got in my car & turned on the heated seat to high & decided i didn't need a massage.Prolly should have called to cancel,but hey that would be too much effort.

And now i gotta read this post from a women who i have to pay to have sex with!!! Geez the nerve of some people lol



Interesting post SS,gives guys a little insight into what you girls have to deal with & why some girls will only work for agencies or quit the biz.

Absolutely LUV this post! Thank You surferboy as you made my morning.

 

[Sophia Sinclair]

It truly pains me to have to dig this old post up and reiterate!

I realize that there are a lot of new members on here, some of which are reincarnations and many that are new to the hobby. For those of you who are new, please take this advice the way it is intended, which is to be helpful. I can definitely speak for all the ladies on here when I say that if we take the time to be comprehensive in our ads or websites, please take the time to read them. It benefits all concerned to know things like our location, hours of availability, age preference if we have one, etc. A little effort on your part saves us both time and aggravation as can be evidenced by this post https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?543432-Extremely-Rude-Text-Response.

I can only speak for myself when I say that I do not make exceptions age wise and do not see clients under 30, period!

No matter how mature/respectful you truly are or believe yourself to be it has nothing to do with that. It has everything to do with the fact that I was molested by a family member growing up and as a result am simply not comfortable being with anyone that much younger than myself. I get the Mrs. Robinson fantasy but due to my unfortunate past I'm not the provider to be fulfilling that role for you. I shouldn't have to reveal this but feel I must as again I find many young members lamenting the fact that I won't see them in reviews of myself, which is pointless and detracts from the review and contacting me despite reading that I only see gents 30 + in the hopes that for some unseen reason I'll make an exception for them.

Don't take it personal as it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with me, so please abide by it!

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

Just a question on this...I can appreciate your honesty about it.

So lets say I decide to book an SP. I am 35, she has an age preference of anyone 30+. I know I look like I am in my early 20s, I even still sometimes get carded at casinos, I know I know I am thankful too for this gifts blessed upon me of cute young chick magnet looks j/k ...but having said this and seeing that you have pretty good reason not to see guys under 30, is it better then just to avoid these SPs that have an age preference. This is all just hypothetical intended to support this thread, I am not looking now for anyone but maybe someone else might be in my situation. I would not want to see SP who is uncomfortable with someone who looks young even though I can back it up with ID. Another point to add is that it would totally ruin the mood if I had to show ID to proove something, thus probably better from someone in my situation just to avoid these SPs with age restrictions. I agree its very important to respect the service providers rules.

 

[stay]

Just a question on this...I can appreciate your honesty about it.

So lets say I decide to book an SP. I am 35, she has an age preference of anyone 30+. I know I look like I am in my early 20s, I even still sometimes get carded at casinos, I know I know I am thankful too for this gifts blessed upon me of cute young chick magnet looks j/k ...but having said this and seeing that you have pretty good reason not to see guys under 30, is it better then just to avoid these SPs that have an age preference. This is all just hypothetical intended to support this thread, I am not looking now for anyone but maybe someone else might be in my situation. I would not want to see SP who is uncomfortable with someone who looks young even though I can back it up with ID. Another point to add is that it would totally ruin the mood if I had to show ID to proove something, thus probably better from someone in my situation just to avoid these SP. I agree its very important to respect the service providers rules.

ROFLMAO carded by a casino and SP.

 

[brazilianguy]

Lmao i was just about to say lol.. i never been carded by an sp before , but i would find that funny as hell, lol though ive been carded by a shoppers drug mart employee recently while trying to buy lottery lmao

 

[TeeJay]

I know that what is common sense to me may not be so to others and that most problems arise from peoples sheer laziness/inability to properly read ads, etc., but common courtesy is a must in any relationship, especially one so intimate! How one approaches a situation can mean the difference between getting what they really want and not and this industry is no exception to that rule. Unfortunately many seem to have forgotten this.

Sincerely,
Miss Sinful Sophia

Just wow but lol

1- most pros never list hours of operation but comparing it to a bank/store is kind of funny since many people try go in early or late
2- age limits are even funnier since most people go in underage (and besides which how would a pro know your real age anyhow)
3- instead of getting hung up on name why not just lie and save everyone the headache, that is what a smart waitress/bartender does since they know its part of the game
4- people ALWAYS ask substitutions regardless of what menu says (esp in this industry since there is such a wide variety of tastes)
5- you really should not be booking clients that closely if you don't want to be known as a clock watcher

 

[Titalian]

2/ Age is not a problem to me but it seems older you are, the more you respect a sp.

Respect, Not sp's in particular, but for women in general. If the men have grown old graciously. But There are still some wild cards in the old male group.

 

[Harley]

I hate it when I go into a grocery store that is open until 6:00 PM, and at 5:30 they are starting to put away the meat in the meat counter. Are they open or not ?

 

[John Henry]

Sophia - you chose this business, take the good with the bad. We don't need a lecture because you can't deal with customers. Get over yourself.

Right on !!! Looks to me like Sophia needs some serious down time or maybe just get another job . The best thing is not to turn on your phone until your ready to answer it . Any calls or texts before your working hours start , ignore them . Same at the end of the day . Turn your phone off when your not going to accept any new calls . Now as for the people who ask you stupid questions or talk stupid to your way of thinking then just blackball them . Don't see them anymore . It's quite simple . Any client not up to your standards , don't see them any more . I'm sure by doing this you will never have a problem any more .

You may end up not having that many steady clients but at least you'll be happy . Just remember that it's the clients that bring you money . You aren't doing anyone any favours by seeing them even though I think you think you are . Plenty of nice girls who are able to handle the problems that are bothering you .

I think that your forgetting that you're not the only show in town .

 

[Titalian]

Right on !!! Looks to me like Sophia needs some serious down time or maybe just get another job . The best thing is not to turn on your phone until your ready to answer it . Any calls or texts before your working hours start , ignore them . Same at the end of the day . Turn your phone off when your not going to accept any new calls . Now as for the people who ask you stupid questions or talk stupid to your way of thinking then just blackball them . Don't see them anymore . It's quite simple . Any client not up to your standards , don't see them any more . I'm sure by doing this you will never have a problem any more .

You may end up not having that many steady clients but at least you'll be happy . Just remember that it's the clients that bring you money . You aren't doing anyone any favours by seeing them even though I think you think you are . Plenty of nice girls who are able to handle the problems that are bothering you .

I think that your forgetting that you're not the only show in town .

Excellent post.

 

[gnudung]

Respect merits respect , sounds like you've already taken steps to ensure your clients respect you by not seeing those who don't . Your not going to change every person out there with these words but those who want to take it to heart will ! In any service related business you will come across many different types of people it comes with the territory you are in a great place you get to sift thru and not see those who don't meet your standards . Not every service related business person is able to do that . Your doing something right !

Blue

Excellent post.

 

[Sophia Sinclair]

Respect merits respect , sounds like you've already taken steps to ensure your clients respect you by not seeing those who don't . Your not going to change every person out there with these words but those who want to take it to heart will ! In any service related business you will come across many different types of people it comes with the territory you are in a great place you get to sift thru and not see those who don't meet your standards . Not every service related business person is able to do that . Your doing something right !

Blue

Believe you me Blue, I have weeded out the truly respectful clients from the ones who merely profess to be and am so much better off for it!

 

[Sophia Sinclair]

you really should not be booking clients that closely if you don't want to be known as a clock watcher

I give myself at least 1.5 hrs between clients, preferably two or more. When you see what appears to you to be me booking two clients back to back (e.g. 10 am & 11 am) it's one client who booked ether a 1.5 hr or 2 hr appointment. Like I said, it pains me to have to explain these things, but apparently there is a need to.

 

[Sophia Sinclair]

It seems this an interested topic and right on point since it was posted 2013. I like to add some lines
1/ Well even a sp answer what is in the menu but it seems the other person doesn't understand or doesn't really read the content of the message but keep asking again and again. Secondly, even a sp says it's her restriction, she can't do it but that person really insisting to pay more to get the service he wants...
2/ Age is not a problem to me but it seems older you are, the more you respect a sp.
3/ SPs have their lives, they do not sit there and wait for the calls! If she indicates her available appointments, please respect it! As I experience, some people send message at 2am and ask if he can come...

My Dear, time reveals all. With perseverance I'm certain you'll build a great roster of regulars that will respect your time and wishes. I hope that individual you contacted me about worked out for you. I'm always willing to give of my time freely to help out others, especially those new to this industry, ladies and hobbyists alike. If I can save them from some grief that I had to go through or help them avoid certain pitfalls I most certainly will.

 

[Sophia Sinclair]

Just a question on this...I can appreciate your honesty about it.

So lets say I decide to book an SP. I am 35, she has an age preference of anyone 30+. I know I look like I am in my early 20s, I even still sometimes get carded at casinos, I know I know I am thankful too for this gifts blessed upon me of cute young chick magnet looks j/k ...but having said this and seeing that you have pretty good reason not to see guys under 30, is it better then just to avoid these SPs that have an age preference. This is all just hypothetical intended to support this thread, I am not looking now for anyone but maybe someone else might be in my situation. I would not want to see SP who is uncomfortable with someone who looks young even though I can back it up with ID. Another point to add is that it would totally ruin the mood if I had to show ID to proove something, thus probably better from someone in my situation just to avoid these SPs with age restrictions. I agree its very important to respect the service providers rules.

Recently a gentleman contacted me using my booking form as he was a new client prebooking for one hour. In it he stated 32 as his age but put TO under location. This is a commonly made mistake so I responded wanting to clarify whether he was in fact looking for an incall or outcall to which he replied that my location was fine and that he looks a lot younger than his real age. I had no concerns until he mentioned this so told him, "I realize that a lot of Asians look younger than they are. Can you or another provider verify that you're in your 30's? I don't usually ask but some men will try to circumvent my comfort zone for their own reasons and I just want our time together to be enjoyable for both of us. I have strong reasons why I won't see anyone in their 20's and I won't compromise them." I was pleasantly surprised by his reply, "I fully understand. You can either ask Angel Monroe, we joked about our age but I didn't show her my id, or I've attached my health card." Obviously he had blacked out the unnecessary information. This completely put my mind at ease and we proceeded to have a fun time together the following day. When both parties are reasonable people and made aware of each others respective needs there usually is a solution.

 

[John Henry]

Terbites,

This should go without saying, but apparently there is a need to state here what I feel is normal and obvious, but clearly is not to many others in today's world.

When a bank, grocery store or any other business states their hours of operation on their doors, do you think that 9 am - 5 pm means that they allow people in before 9 am or past 5 pm? I would hope that your answer would unequivocally be no and most assuredly in the case of banks as we all know their 9 am or 5 pm is not our 9 am or 5 pm. So why do you think that "I start answering my personal cell at 8 am, begin seeing clients at 10 am & stop answering my cell at 9 pm, the end of my work day, Monday to Friday" means that I see my last client starting at 9 pm or start answering my cell before 8 am or on weekends, etc.?

Do you go into a bar/lounge that has a dress code/age limit and argue with them as to why that is? You may not like it, but unless you're going to take on that big bouncer, and chances are if you're sober you won't, you accept that and go somewhere else. Why then do I get so many young men private messaging, emailing and texting me, etc. as to why I prefer men a certain age or older? I have my reasons and should not have to explain them to anyone! Please accept that and move on.

Do you ask your server, who is super friendly and professional like myself, what their real name is, just in case their using a made up one on their name tag, how long they have been a waitress/bartendress, if they are in a relationship or not, where they live, if they rent or own, how much their rent or mortgage is, etc. upon first meeting them and after sitting in their section or at their bar for only five minutes? Okay, some might, especially if into their cups and she is really cute, again like me, but I am sure most would not. I get the need to feel like you know me on some level, but why ask me these very personal and really inappropriate questions without even assessing whether we are compatible in other more basic ways first or if you even plan on seeing me again? This is equivalent to a dancer asking if you want a dance before you have even sat down and gotten a drink. I know better than to pry into client's private lives unless invited to do so and would ask for the same understanding!

Do you go into a restaurant and ask the server if you can substitute cauliflower for broccoli, which is not even listed anywhere on the menu, not because of an allergy, but simply because you prefer cauliflower, when the menu clearly states no substitutions unless due to an allergy. If we are going to be honest here, some people would lie and say they have an allergy just to try and get what they want, but most people could live without their preference that one time or would simply go to a restaurant that does serve cauliflower. How then does "if I do not list it, please do not request it, as I do not partake of/in it" translate into any multitude of requests for things not listed on the "Services" page of my website or even things that I flat out say I do not do? Trust me when I say that buttering me up first with compliments about how hot I look in my pictures and how great my reviews are is not going to get you carte blanche menu wise! It may get you other things, but not that.

When you see any other professional whose services you really need/enjoy with a limited amount of time to devote to you, do you then proceed to try to chat them up for fifteen minutes after the end of your session/meeting in an attempt to prolong the time you have with them? My guess would be yes, but that when they say sorry your time is up as I have other people waiting or I really have to go somewhere/do something you respect that and leave. Why then do you not listen when I say the same thing? I deserve the same respect that they do and this goes for cancellations as well! Just because I cannot/do not charge for cancellations like some doctors/dentists do, does not mean that I do not deserve the same consideration when cancelling.

I know that what is common sense to me may not be so to others and that most problems arise from peoples sheer laziness/inability to properly read ads, etc., but common courtesy is a must in any relationship, especially one so intimate! How one approaches a situation can mean the difference between getting what they really want and not and this industry is no exception to that rule. Unfortunately many seem to have forgotten this.

I have tried to use everyday examples to put some men's behaviour into perspective for them, so that they can see how absurd their actions come across to myself and I think all of us Ladies, using some tongue in cheek of course to lighten the message. I hope that they can approach it with an open mind and take it as it is intended, which is not a rant, but an attempt to educate!

After all that, THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART to those of you who Truly are GENTLEMEN and who RESPECT my Boundaries and Comfort Level and APPRECIATE what it is that I try to do for you!

Sincerely,
Miss Sinful Sophia

Believe you me Blue, I have weeded out the truly respectful clients from the ones who merely profess to be and am so much better off for it!

If that is the case that you are already better off and have weeded out the respectful clients then what's with the novel you wrote above . Interesting in the fact that you wrote this when you are already in your happy place . I for one am happy that you are happy . Not good to walk around with a grudge on one's shoulder .
Everyone desires the right to be happy in their own way . Looks like you have .