2021-22 Maple Leafs Thread

[chuckertmg]

Leafs will not make the playoffs,

With comments like that young man, you are going to single-handedly sink TSN’s business model!!!
You take that back right now before their ratings sink like a rock!

The Leafs are Stanley cup contenders for the 4th year in a row this year and we don’t want any of your reality messing with our amazing success.

 

[kyleb899]

Lol leafs are not Stanley cup contenders, because they won the Canadian division last season that makes them good lol, haven't won no playoffs series in the cap Era.
These overpaid bums haven't earned anything yet.

 

[Darts]

Agree, it's a reasonable contract for the Leafs salary-wise, although the eight year term could be very problematic nearer term down the road. While he's no where near being considered a 'stud' defenseman, he's still a top tier guy and they paid the going rate for equivalent talent.

I think the Leafs had to go the maximum 8 years to minimize the annual cap hit. He also has a NM clause. 28mm of the $60mm will be paid in the first 3 years. Apparently, his teammates were surprised by the deal.

"Starting immediately Rielly has a no-movement clause for the entire deal. He’ll have a 10-team no-trade clause for the final two years."

Leaf Morgan Rielly’s $60-million deal surprised teammates — in a good way | The Star
Morgan Rielly Contract, Salary Cap Details & Breakdowns | Spotrac

 

[shack]

Typical Shack, posting silly cartoons.

So, how many hockey predictions have you made? Please tell. Or, are you going to post another silly cartoon again?

If you disagreed, you should have said so at the time. To come charging out of the bushes after the fact means you have no credibility.

You put yourself on the line by making a prediction (that you were so certain of) and you were 100% wrong. I simply pointed it out. And BTW, I don't have to make a prediction to point out that your prediction was wrong. A fact is a fact is a fact.

Making a prediction(s) does not mean that one is smart. You just proved it. Deal with it, little boy.

post another silly cartoon

Says the guy who posts photoshopped pics of Sharapova's pussy while playing. That is mature? More examples of childish behaviour from you.

 

[Dartman]

You put yourself on the line by making a prediction (that you were so certain of) and you were 100% wrong. I simply pointed it out. And BTW, I don't have to make a prediction to point out that your prediction was wrong. A fact is a fact is a fact.

Making a prediction(s) does not mean that one is smart. You just proved it. Deal with it, little boy.

Says the guy who posts photoshopped pics of Sharapova's pussy while playing. That is mature? More examples of childish behaviour from you.

What happens if the salary cap does not increase or only goes up 5 million, The Leafs are screwed with that contract

 

[Fun For All]

What happens if the salary cap does not increase or only goes up 5 million, The Leafs are screwed with that contract

It won't go up that much...they'll have to make some moves and there are a few contracts they can move around.

Daly: NHL expects salary cap to increase by $1M in 2022-23

According to deputy commissioner Bill Daly, during an interview for an upcoming episode of The 31 Thoughts Podcast with Elliotte Friedman and Jeff Marek, the league expects the salary cap to increase by $1 million for the 2022-23 season.

www.sportsnet.ca

Thank You - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Thank you for the amazing 9 years

www.capfriendly.com

 

[Darts]

It won't go up that much...they'll have to make some moves and there are a few contracts they can move around.

Daly: NHL expects salary cap to increase by $1M in 2022-23

According to deputy commissioner Bill Daly, during an interview for an upcoming episode of The 31 Thoughts Podcast with Elliotte Friedman and Jeff Marek, the league expects the salary cap to increase by $1 million for the 2022-23 season.

www.sportsnet.ca

Thank You - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Thank you for the amazing 9 years

www.capfriendly.com

Jack Campbell is an UFA next year. Wonder how much he wants (currently $1.65mm)? (Petr Mrazek is making $3.8mm.) What do you think, Shack? Man up, any ideas/opinions/predictions?

 

[chuckertmg]

Leafs are well rested and Detroit is playing their 3rd game in 4 nights tonight. No excuses.

 

[smuddan]

Agree, it's a reasonable contract for the Leafs salary-wise, although the eight year term could be very problematic nearer term down the road. While he's no where near being considered a 'stud' defenseman, he's still a top tier guy and they paid the going rate for equivalent talent. I get the feeling that this got green lit by others and wasn't solely a Dubas move. I also think that if you're going to add this kind of obligation to the portfolio, there has to be a plan to balance the books via significant trades later on. Could be the start of a bigger, more significant move yet to come, maybe involving one of the high-priced 'core'. Still not convinced Dubas is safe, and wouldn't be surprised to see him dumped before calendar year end.

‘Good points. Kertfoot’s 3.5m may have to be jettisoned without touching the core 4. The Leafs’ window for cup contention is closing with Matthews and Nylander becoming unrestricted fa in 2 years after this season. Tavares (31), Muzzin (32) Brody (31) are on the down side of their careers and we may be seeing rapid decline in their performances sooner than we’d like to.

 

[maurice93]

What happens if the salary cap does not increase or only goes up 5 million, The Leafs are screwed with that contract

It will barely go up next year.

That being said this was the right move to do IMO. It’s a lot of money because the market on good D is out of control.

The Leafs had 3 options. We can all agree on that.
1) Let him expire
2) Trade him at or before the deadline.
3) Extend him.

Let’s clear #2 as an option. Toronto is still very likely a playoff team despite their early struggles. They are not going to sink their season.

As for #1) if he hits the market he will be hard to sign, and even if you do sign him then you likely have to do a trade to make room. It’s difficult to sign a player and then concurrently try to trade someone big to make cap space.

So this is why #3 makes sense. You have taken out the difficulty of trying to do two things at once.
It seems very unlikely Toronto will be able to pay all their current top 4 forwards and top 3 D. If they did their rest of lineup will be a mess.

So now you deal one of those bigger contracts to clear some space in the off-season and push the decision back one season.

 

[seagerbuzz]

What happens if the salary cap does not increase or only goes up 5 million, The Leafs are screwed with that contract

They're already screwed with other contracts. Having one D man making $7.5 is better than having 3 forwards making $11

 

[shack]

What do you think, Shack? Man up, any ideas/opinions/predictions?

Man up? What does pretending that you are a wannabe general manager have to do with manning up? It's role playing in fantasy land. Armchair quarterback is a mocking term. Wannabe GM is totally analogous.

I'm a fan who simply enjoys watching hockey games. Nothing more and nothing less. That's the way I've always been. I've never been interested in analysing contracts and caps and CBA's etc.

Just tell me when puck drop is so I can enjoy the game of hockey. It's much more entertaining than the business of hockey. I rarely, if ever, discuss the business of hockey. I find it boring.

TBH, I realize lots and lots of guys engage in these discussions. It seems to be a more recent phenomenon that never appealed to me.

Manning up is being able to admit when you've made a mistake. We all make 'em but it's something you've never admitted to.

C'mon darts. Man up and just say your predictions on Rielly were dead wrong instead of feebly attacking me for simply pointing it out.

 

[Darts]

Just tell me when puck drop is so I can enjoy the game of hockey. It's much more entertaining than the business of hockey. I rarely, if ever, discuss the business of hockey. I find it boring.

Great idea, just stick to watching the game and leave the rest of us alone.

The rest of us like to analyze the game and give opinions and make predictions. If you don't, then don't post. It just clutters up the forum with useless trash.

Yes, I was surprised that he signed an extension and so were his teammates among others.
Leaf Morgan Rielly’s $60-million deal surprised teammates — in a good way | The Star
Rielly’s extension was a surprise and ‘big pick me up’ for Maple Leafs - Sportsnet.ca

 

[Darts]

So now you deal one of those bigger contracts to clear some space in the off-season and push the decision back one season.

If we believe Cap Friendly, Mathews, Marner and Nylander don't have NM/NTC clause. Do we have any takers?

Matthews, Auston "A"		C	NHL	Draft	24	14.3	$11,640,250	$11,640,250	$11,640,250	UFA
Tavares, John "C"	NMC	C	NHL	Signed	31	13.5	$11,000,000	$11,000,000	$11,000,000	$11,000,000	UFA
Marner, Mitchell "A"		RW	NHL	Draft	24	13.4	$10,903,000	$10,903,000	$10,903,000	$10,903,000	UFA
Nylander, William

 

[Darts]

Tavares (31), Muzzin (32) Brody (31) are on the down side of their careers and we may be seeing rapid decline in their performances sooner than we’d like to.

Plus, who do the Leafs have in the pipeline? Robertson is always getting hurt. Sandin has been around so long that he himself will be an RFA after this season.

 

[seagerbuzz]

Plus, who do the Leafs have in the pipeline? Robertson is always getting hurt. Sandin has been around so long that he himself will be an RFA after this season.

What about Timothy Liljegren. wasn't he the steal of the draft and the next Nick Lidstrom.

 

[shack]

Great idea, just stick to watching the game and leave the rest of us alone.
The rest of us like to analyze the game and give opinions and make predictions. If you don't, then don't post. It just clutters up the forum with useless trash.

I thought that righties were against cancel culture and all for free speech.

 

[Darts]

What about Timothy Liljegren. wasn't he the steal of the draft and the next Nick Lidstrom.

He's also been around so long that he will be an RFA like Sandin next season. Holy shit, I think Robertson will also be an RFA next season as well.

 

[smuddan]

Being on the side of cheering for the team still, I would say there are signs in the last two games that perhaps Marner’s game is coming around. His line with Tavares and Kertfoot was very effective. On the other hand the Matthews Nylander Bunting line was shut out and minus 5 combined. Nylander had three decent games at the start. He has 0 goal 1 assist and minus 4 in the past 5 games.

 

[Darts]

What about Timothy Liljegren. wasn't he the steal of the draft and the next Nick Lidstrom.

The Leafs didn't draft any defensemen (2 forwards and a goalie) in the first 3 rounds of the 2021 amateur draft (not sure about after that, lost interest). Does this mean that the Leafs are content with the defensemen they already have? Maybe they're still hoping Liliegren will still be the next Lidstrom, LOL.