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Who will you be voting for??

Who gets your vote?

  • Liberal

    Votes: 56 41.2%
  • Conservatives

    Votes: 64 47.1%
  • NDP

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Green

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bloc Quebecois

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • People's Party

    Votes: 7 5.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 3.7%

  • Total voters
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Skoob

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I guess you believe you're smarter than AI, WOW!!! LMAO, HAHAHAHAHA, sorry for laughing but you're a funny guy.

You didn't like Shaqs reply, I know you will not like my opinion so I gave you an unbiased opinion and you shat on that. It just goes to prove you're an angry do your own research type of guy.
You think AI is fully trustworthy? That's what you try and peddle as your source of truth? HAHAHAHA That's funny, desperate & sad!

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Skoob

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I think he already makes 10x more that what a PM does.

Have a good night watching your peepee loosing the election and his seat
I thought Liberals hated rich people? Oh just more hypocrisy I guess.
Tell us, how does it feel after sucking on Trudeau's ass for a decade to now have to accept sucking a Conservative-leaning leader like Carney?

Can you do that with your elbows up? Lol!
 
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Skoob

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There is plenty that is different.
Pierre promises to cut taxes, cut spending and deregulate and put money in the pockets of the rich while throwing the average Canadian as well as Canada itself under the bus.
Carney proposes to invest in Canada, build more houses, make it more self-reliant, something that will help us be less dependent on the US for while maintaining sovereignty.
I have said many times that this election is not about policy.
This is about ideology.
We need to elect a government that is ideologically opposed to the fascist one in the US.
That is priority #1.
Everything else is secondary.
That government is one that is led by Liberals.
In other words you have no idea what he will do and are simply throwing out genialities and what every candidate has been saying they will do.

You have been sucked into the Liberal propaganda machine.

If you weren't brainwashed you would provide a more straight answer. Proves you have no idea and just support who you have been told to support or else.

Carney won't do anything different than what every other candidate has proposed.

You have been fooled into thinking he is different.
 
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You think AI is fully trustworthy? That's what you try and peddle as your source of truth? HAHAHAHA That's funny, desperate & sad!

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Of course because the radical rightie echo chamber you pull your info from is factual and then you come here and look silly spouting off nonsense and bullshit.

BTW, please donate some tears. I know you're hurting this morning. Shed some tears and you will feel better.

 

squeezer

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I thought Liberals hated rich people? Oh just more hypocrisy I guess.
Tell us, how does it feel after sucking on Trudeau's ass for a decade to now have to accept sucking a Conservative-leaning leader like Carney?

Can you do that with your elbows up? Lol!
HHAHAHAHA, you just proved my point about spouting off nonsense and bullshit.

Reading and absorbing are a beautiful thing


Political beginnings
According to Carney, in 2012, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper asked Carney—who was then governor of the Bank of Canada—if he would join the Conservative government as minister of finance. Carney declined, stating in a February 2025 interview with the CBC that he felt it "wasn't appropriate" for him to proceed with the offer because he felt it was not right to "go directly from being governor into elective politics."[92]

Carney was approached by the Liberal Party to run for leader in their 2013 leadership election. He ultimately declined to do so.[93]

Carney meets with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson on January 16, 2020 to discuss COP26

As he prepared to step down as governor of the Bank of England, Carney was appointed as United Nations special envoy for climate action and finance in March 2020.[94] In January 2020, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson appointed Carney to the position of finance advisor for the UK presidency of the COP26 United Nations Climate Change conference in Glasgow.[95] At that time the conference was scheduled for November 2020, but it was later postponed to November 2021.[96]

In 2021, Carney spoke at the Liberal Party policy convention, declaring his support of the party but stopping short of pledging to run under its banner.[97] Later that year, he ruled himself out as a candidate in the then-speculated 2021 Canadian federal election, owing to his COP26 commitments.[98]

Carney endorsed Catherine McKenney's candidacy for mayor of Ottawa in the 2022 mayoral election.[99]

In October 2023, he endorsed the UK Labour Party's Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves to be the next chancellor of the exchequer in a video following Reeves' speech at the Labour Party conference that year.[100] Following Labour's victory in the 2024 election, Carney was part of a taskforce which saw the creation of a British National Wealth Fund.[101]

On September 9, 2024, Carney was named by Justin Trudeau to chair the Liberal Party of Canada's leader's Task Force on Economic Growth.[102] His name was briefly mentioned upon the resignation of Chrystia Freeland as a possible candidate for finance minister in Trudeau's ministry.[103][104][105]
 
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Skoob

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I want to take this opportunity to congratulate Carney on winning the election. Although the result is not what I had hoped for, I respect the democratic process.

We finally got rid of Trudeau and Singh. That in itself is a victory! Conservatives picked up a lot of new seats especially in Southern Ontario and will form a very strong opposition.

I'm also relieved that Caney has adopted a significant number of Conservative policies and will put them into effect in the months and years ahead as he campaigned on.

This of course is with the assumption that he will stick to his promises. Among those promises is reducing government, cutting taxes, keeping the carbon tax at 0, controlling immigration, and investing in Canadian natural resources and pipelines (drill baby drill!).

All of that while running a minority government without the help of the NDP to swoop in and prop them up.

We'll all be watching intently of course...
 
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Skoob

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Of course because the radical rightie echo chamber you pull your info from is factual and then you come here and look silly spouting off nonsense and bullshit.

BTW, please donate some tears. I know you're hurting this morning. Shed some tears and you will feel better.
I used to think you were naive and ignorant because all the information you rely on came from Youtube...I had no idea you were using AI to find your moral compass!

Now it all makes sense.

PS I'm actually happy that the Libs have a minority government but were elected on the Conservative policies they copied. Which means they either keep their promises and implement those policies or if they stray, they will accomplish nothing and get turfed next election.

Deep down I know you know that's true...if you don't believe me ask your AI app.
 
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Skoob

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HHAHAHAHA, you just proved my point about spouting off nonsense and bullshit.

Reading and absorbing are a beautiful thing


Political beginnings
According to Carney, in 2012, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper asked Carney—who was then governor of the Bank of Canada—if he would join the Conservative government as minister of finance. Carney declined, stating in a February 2025 interview with the CBC that he felt it "wasn't appropriate" for him to proceed with the offer because he felt it was not right to "go directly from being governor into elective politics."[92]

Carney was approached by the Liberal Party to run for leader in their 2013 leadership election. He ultimately declined to do so.[93]

Carney meets with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson on January 16, 2020 to discuss COP26

As he prepared to step down as governor of the Bank of England, Carney was appointed as United Nations special envoy for climate action and finance in March 2020.[94] In January 2020, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson appointed Carney to the position of finance advisor for the UK presidency of the COP26 United Nations Climate Change conference in Glasgow.[95] At that time the conference was scheduled for November 2020, but it was later postponed to November 2021.[96]

In 2021, Carney spoke at the Liberal Party policy convention, declaring his support of the party but stopping short of pledging to run under its banner.[97] Later that year, he ruled himself out as a candidate in the then-speculated 2021 Canadian federal election, owing to his COP26 commitments.[98]

Carney endorsed Catherine McKenney's candidacy for mayor of Ottawa in the 2022 mayoral election.[99]

In October 2023, he endorsed the UK Labour Party's Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves to be the next chancellor of the exchequer in a video following Reeves' speech at the Labour Party conference that year.[100] Following Labour's victory in the 2024 election, Carney was part of a taskforce which saw the creation of a British National Wealth Fund.[101]

On September 9, 2024, Carney was named by Justin Trudeau to chair the Liberal Party of Canada's leader's Task Force on Economic Growth.[102] His name was briefly mentioned upon the resignation of Chrystia Freeland as a possible candidate for finance minister in Trudeau's ministry.[103][104][105]
Not sure what your story is supposed to mean exactly but I hope you enjoy Carney implementing all those Conservative policies he copied and campaigned on.
This will be fun to watch. A win-win so to speak.
You can ask me why but I think you already know the answer, and if you don't already know the answer, I'm sure your AI aps will tell you.
 
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Skoob

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I literally told you what he will do.
Looks like you are delirious after that shellacking last night. lmfao.
No all you stated were the general talking points that every candidate said as well.
You said: " Carney proposes to invest in Canada, build more houses, make it more self-reliant, something that will help us be less dependent on the US for while maintaining sovereignty."

Invest in Canada: general comment and common with all party platforms
Build more houses: general comment and common to all party platforms, EXCEPT he neglected to mention his US company would most likely be getting the contracts
Make it more self reliant: general comment and common to all party platforms
Something that will help us be less dependent on the US for while maintaining sovereignty: repetitive and vague and also what all parties mentioned

So basically, he is no different in terms of strategy and ideology, but you've convinced yourself that he has a better plan and strategy and are not able to explain the differences.

You just suck up what the Liberal propaganda machine tells you without asking important questions.
 
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WyattEarp

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I want to take this opportunity to congratulate Carney on winning the election. Although the result is not what I had hoped for, I respect the democratic process.

We finally got rid of Trudeau and Singh. That in itself is a victory! Conservatives picked up a lot of new seats especially in Southern Ontario and will forma very strong opposition.

I'm also relieved that Caney has adopted a significant number of Conservative policies and will put them into effect in the months and years ahead as he campaigned on.

This of course is with the assumption that he will stick to his promises. Among those promises is reducing government, cutting taxes, keeping the carbon tax at 0, controlling immigration, and investing in Canadian natural resources and pipelines (drill baby drill!).

All of that while running a minority government without the help of the NDP to swoop in and prop them up.

We'll all be watching intently of course...
How do you suppose a coalition will work if Carney tries to move the Liberals towards the center? Can he move to the center if he has a coalition with the NDP? Or does Bloc Québécois have more conservative elements?

I'm not sure I have this right, but I am curious how the Canadian system works.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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No all you stated were the general talking points that every candidate said as well.
You said: " Carney proposes to invest in Canada, build more houses, make it more self-reliant, something that will help us be less dependent on the US for while maintaining sovereignty."

Invest in Canada: general comment and common with all party platforms
Build more houses: general comment and common to all party platforms, EXCEPT he neglected to mention his US company would most likely be getting the contracts
Make it more self reliant: general comment and common to all party platforms
Something that will help us be less dependent on the US for while maintaining sovereignty: repetitive and vague and also what all parties mentioned

So basically, he is no different in terms of strategy and ideology, but you've convinced yourself that he has a better plan and strategy and are not able to explain the differences.

You just suck up what the Liberal propaganda machine tells you without asking important questions.
A summary but not exhaustive.
And this is good enough.
What did the glorified sloganeer who lost his own riding produce?
Perhaps a few attractive slogans that appealed to you?
PS: But let me restate what I said earlier.
This election was about ideology. Not policy.
We needed to select a government that would be opposed to the one down south.
We did that.
Key Highlights of Mark Carney’s Platform
Economic Policy
  • Tax Reforms: Carney pledged to cut taxes for the middle class and scrap the proposed capital gains tax increase.
  • Fiscal Responsibility: He aims to reduce government spending growth from 9% to 2% annually without cutting transfers to provinces or individuals, aiming to balance the operating budget within three years.
  • Trade Diversification: In response to U.S. trade policies under President Donald Trump, Carney emphasized the need to diversify Canada's trading relationships, including rebuilding ties with India.
Defense and Sovereignty
  • Increased Defense Spending: Carney committed to raising defense spending above the NATO target of 2% of GDP, with a focus on Arctic defense through new military equipment, personnel recruitment, infrastructure, and Arctic community development in partnership with Indigenous groups.
  • Countering Foreign Influence: He proposed measures to safeguard Canada against perceived threats from foreign powers, including the introduction of a "carbon border-adjustment" to penalize high-polluting foreign imports.
Housing and Infrastructure
  • Affordable Housing Initiatives: Carney's plan includes doubling the pace of new housing construction over a decade, scrapping the GST on new homes worth up to $1 million for first-time buyers, and incentivizing local governments to achieve housing development targets.
  • Infrastructure Investment: He pledged investments in large projects like social housing, rail projects, and expanded public transit to create jobs and stimulate economic growth.
Climate and Energy
  • Carbon Tax Reform: Carney proposed replacing the consumer carbon tax with an incentive program to reward green choices, while maintaining the tax on large industrial emitters.
  • Energy Infrastructure: He supports expanding Canada's energy infrastructure to be less dependent on foreign suppliers and advocates for the export of liquefied natural gas to Canada's allies.
Immigration and Social Policy
  • Immigration Tied to Housing: Carney plans to tie the number of new immigrants to housing availability, ensuring that immigration levels are sustainable and aligned with infrastructure capacity.
  • Healthcare Modernization: He supports working with provinces to modernize healthcare using artificial intelligence and other technologies.
 
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Skoob

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How do you suppose a coalition will work if Carney tries to move the Liberals towards the center? Can he move to the center if he has a coalition with the NDP? Or does Bloc Québécois have more conservative elements?

I'm not sure I have this right, but I am curious how the Canadian system works.
It used to be that the NDP would prop up the Liberal minority government. After this election that won't be possible because they only won about 1/3 of the seats they had last time.
Similarly, the Bloc lost seats but can make a difference if they want to. Problem is, they typically only want to look out for Quebec and will side with anyone who helps them with that. Everything else could be a toss up.

If you mean a coalition between the Liberals and Conservatives, that's highly unlikely. For one, most of the proposed Liberal policies were actually copied from the Conservative platform. So if they are implemented, they will be supported by the Conservatives. If they're not, then the Conservatives will not support different policies.

Keep in mind that the only reason the Liberals even ended up with a minority is because they managed to convince voters that Carney could handle Trump and US policies better than anyone else. All that, but no substance included that actually explains how. And anything that was offered in this respect was identical to what every other party proposed.

What we'll see over the next 4 years is Liberal supporters realizing that their party is only able to implement Conservative policies, not be able to do anything about Trump's policies, and the Conservatives will win a majority in 4 years like Trump did after 4 years of Democrat rule.
 

WyattEarp

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No all you stated were the general talking points that every candidate said as well.
You said: " Carney proposes to invest in Canada, build more houses, make it more self-reliant, something that will help us be less dependent on the US for while maintaining sovereignty."

Invest in Canada: general comment and common with all party platforms
Build more houses: general comment and common to all party platforms, EXCEPT he neglected to mention his US company would most likely be getting the contracts
Make it more self reliant: general comment and common to all party platforms
Something that will help us be less dependent on the US for while maintaining sovereignty: repetitive and vague and also what all parties mentioned

So basically, he is no different in terms of strategy and ideology, but you've convinced yourself that he has a better plan and strategy and are not able to explain the differences.

You just suck up what the Liberal propaganda machine tells you without asking important questions.
That's why I prefer to talk about specific issues rather than party rhetoric. It's too easy to discuss things in broad generalities that only promote a team color.
 

Skoob

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A summary but not exhaustive.
And this is good enough.
What did the glorified sloganeer who lost his own riding produce?
Perhaps a few attractive slogans that appealed to you?
PS: But let me restate what I said earlier.
This election was about ideology. Not policy.
We needed to select a government that would be opposed to the one down south.
We did that.
Everything in the list was copied from the Conservative platform and what the Conservatives have been proposing for years. You just proved my point.

Ideology doesn't have anything to do with actual policy that affects people's lives.
Being opposed to the one down south is nothing but virtue signaling. No substance. No plan.

You still can't explain what makes Carney any different than any other party leader in that respect. You just voted blindly due to brainwashing.
 

Skoob

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That's why I prefer to talk about specific issues rather than party rhetoric. It's too easy to discuss things in broad generalities that only promote a team color.
When every party leader uses the same talking points and proposes the same policies, people are left to decide based on subjective things. That's where cognitive bias comes in.
 
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