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Trump/Zelensky deal turns into Jerry Springer episode

Valcazar

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He is not back tracking.
He said even before the Oval Office spat, that he is ready to sign over mineral deals, but wants security guarantees.
He is saying the same thing now, so no change.
You have to remember that these are Trump fans.
The idea that he regrets the fight must mean he is "backtracking" and "Donny won" in their minds because they subscribe to the whole "never say you are sorry, always express dominance" etc.
They can't see that he isn't backtracking, he just wants to move forward with the deal.
 

Valcazar

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Where in the article does it say they laughed at him because he was asking for 2%?
Again, 24 of 32 countries reached a minimum of 2%, and then changed it to 5%.
Why is that?
Because in a much more dangerous world where the US can't be relied on and they must consider defending against the US, they are all going to spend more money on defense.
 
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Valcazar

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Well one thing is a fact
..US is carrying the brunt of the finances of NATO. He may want to opt out if most members don't even honor their pledges.
Please show me the NATO line item in the US budget.

USA should pay the entire cost of NATO. It is a tool for their empire, and the weapons they force the vassals to buy are overpriced by a factor of 5.
How would that work, exactly?
How would the US "pay the entire cost of NATO"?
 

danmand

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Please show me the NATO line item in the US budget.



How would that work, exactly?
How would the US "pay the entire cost of NATO"?
Well, USA could pay for the equipment; they dictate what and how much the other countries must acquire.
 

Valcazar

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Well, USA could pay for the equipment; they dictate what and how much the other countries must acquire.
So you are saying that the US should pay for all military equipment for all NATO countries and those countries should have no say in what they buy or what they get?
All procurement for national defense is in the hands of the US going forward?
 

danmand

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So you are saying that the US should pay for all military equipment for all NATO countries and those countries should have no say in what they buy or what they get?
All procurement for national defense is in the hands of the US going forward?
Be real, It already is.

Why Is Canada buying F35s?
 

danmand

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I see.
So this is part of the "Canada is just a vassal state like Ukraine, and like Russia, the US should stop pretending its neighbours are sovereign"?
What happened to the Avro Arrow?
 

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