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I see.
So this is part of the "Canada is just a vassal state like Ukraine, and like Russia, the US should stop pretending its neighbours are sovereign"?
What happened to the Avro Arrow?
 
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Sympathy for Putin? Carlson AKA Russian Asset, Cuomo on who caused Russia-Ukraine war | Cuomo & Carlson
 

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Ghawar
Between sympathy for Putin and sympathy for Zelensky which one
you think has gotten more Ukrainians killed?

Between NO sympathy for Putin and sympathy for Zelensky which
one has led to more destructions in Ukraine?
 
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There are a lot of countries now worried about flying jets with an american kill switch.
Same way Poland may cancel Starlink.


Well front line in Ukraine is collapsing. But yeah F-35 is a billion dollar PIG. Even Elon Musk says its obsolete,. Canada really should invest in building a comprehensive drone/robotics based system of national defense. Land/Sea/Air. This will have vast dual use applications as well and could be a platform to advance Canadas tech industry.
 
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If we don't take the mutual security approach, it will be resolved by war. To think Russia has no legitimate interests that should be considered is utterly absurd.
 
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If we don't take the mutual security approach, it will be resolved by war. To think Russia has no legitimate interests that should be considered is utterly absurd.
Their interest should be to pack up and leave Ukraine. I suppose the US has interest right here in Canada so you will be fine with them invading and killing folks.
 
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Their interest should be to pack up and leave Ukraine. I suppose the US has interest right here in Canada so you will be fine with them invading and killing folks.
Yes they do.
What do you think the U.S. would do if China was recruiting Canada into their military alliance?
 

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Their interest should be to pack up and leave Ukraine. I suppose the US has interest right here in Canada so you will be fine with them invading and killing folks.
If you think that is a viable option you are really clueless. If Canada entered into a mutual defense agreement with China and China started basing troops here, what do you think the USA would do? What if Canada joined BNR? When Biden was certain Russia was about to attack within 2 weeks, did he lift a FINGER to try and stop it? That should be pretty instructive on who was really behind the war.
 

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If you think that is a viable option you are really clueless. If Canada entered into a mutual defense agreement with China and China started basing troops here, what do you think the USA would do? What if Canada joined BNR? When Biden was certain Russia was about to attack within 2 weeks, did he lift a FINGER to try and stop it? That should be pretty instructive on who was really behind the war.
Why hasn't Putin then invaded Sweden and Finland?

PS....Ukraine could ask but they would never have been allowed into NATO. The reason your hero invaded is because he couldn't control Zelenskyy and you know it. To most I suggest a green card, to you, I suggest moving to Russia.
 

nottyboi

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Why hasn't Putin then invaded Sweden and Finland?

PS....Ukraine could ask but they would never have been allowed into NATO. The reason your hero invaded is because he couldn't control Zelenskyy and you know it. To most I suggest a green card, to you, I suggest moving to Russia.
Russia is building and reinforcing the Finnish border, where that leads we will know in the fullness of time. One war at a time. Perhaps as part of the negotiations with the US, they will agree that there will be very limited foreign troops based in Finland. and no nukes in Sweden and Finland. Sweden has been defacto NATO.
 

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Russia is building and reinforcing the Finnish border, where that leads we will know in the fullness of time. One war at a time. Perhaps as part of the negotiations with the US, they will agree that there will be very limited foreign troops based in Finland. and no nukes in Sweden and Finland. Sweden has been defacto NATO.
Sure comrade, when will you be moving to help Russia expand?
 
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If you think that is a viable option you are really clueless. If Canada entered into a mutual defense agreement with China and China started basing troops here, what do you think the USA would do? What if Canada joined BNR? When Biden was certain Russia was about to attack within 2 weeks, did he lift a FINGER to try and stop it? That should be pretty instructive on who was really behind the war.
Notty, weren't you the komradsky who was swearing that Putin would never invade Ukraine...... the day before he attacked Ukraine??
 

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Under Trump, who is itching to invade, yes they would, under a normal US administration, it would never come to that.
Under most other presidents, there would be wild, long-standing discussions about how the US alienated Canada to the point where it was seeking a defensive alliance against the US.

Which, of course, we are seeing happen in real time right now.
 
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Well front line in Ukraine is collapsing. But yeah F-35 is a billion dollar PIG. Even Elon Musk says its obsolete,. Canada really should invest in building a comprehensive drone/robotics based system of national defense. Land/Sea/Air. This will have vast dual use applications as well and could be a platform to advance Canadas tech industry.
You've been saying Ukraine is collapsing for a couple of years now.
 
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If you think that is a viable option you are really clueless. If Canada entered into a mutual defense agreement with China and China started basing troops here, what do you think the USA would do? What if Canada joined BNR?
We may find out.
Trump has been talking about annexing Canada for a while now and Canada has to consider defensive alliances to maintain independence.
Just as Ukraine sought greater support from elsewhere when Russia turned on it, Canada and Mexico may well have to do the same.

When Biden was certain Russia was about to attack within 2 weeks, did he lift a FINGER to try and stop it? That should be pretty instructive on who was really behind the war.
Oh, this should be good.
What, exactly, should Biden have done to stop it?
Bomb Russia?
 
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