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Trump/Zelensky deal turns into Jerry Springer episode

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American and European leaders could not bring themselves to put
pressure on Putin comparable to what they put on Zelensky because
Putin is not receiving free money and weapons from the west.
 

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Bolton has theory on why Trump threatened Russia with sanctions

Russia bombing Ukraine non stop, TRUMP, "we are having problems with Ukraine, they won't deal" Russian asset puppet bitch.
 

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In other words, the Russian asset is doing his job?
I think it just happens that Trump and Putin's interests
overlap somewhere. They could split their interests peacefully.
Putin will annex 20% of Ukraine and Trump gets the mineral rights
to pillage the rest. And Europe will cover expenses on defending
U.S. mining operations in Ukraine from Russia.
 

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I think it just happens that Trump and Putin's interests
overlap somewhere. They could split their interests peacefully.
Putin will annex 20% of Ukraine and Trump gets the mineral rights
to pillage the rest. And Europe will cover expenses on defending
U.S. mining operations in Ukraine from Russia.
Republicans begin to turn on Trump over Ukraine betrayal
 
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I guess Lindsey Graham is not among those Republicans.

There is a way Zelensky can sign the deal and still rescue
his country from the paws of American imperialism. I already
outlined how Trump can be tricked into a bogus mineral
deal in my last post from another Ukraine thread.
 

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I guess Lindsey Graham is not among those Republicans.

There is a way Zelensky can sign the deal and still rescue
his country from the paws of American imperialism. I already
outlined how Trump can be tricked into a bogus mineral
deal in my last post from another Ukraine thread.
Perhaps you should as for a one on one with Zelenskyy. I am sure he would love to hear your POV.
 

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I guess Lindsey Graham is not among those Republicans.

There is a way Zelensky can sign the deal and still rescue
his country from the paws of American imperialism. I already
outlined how Trump can be tricked into a bogus mineral
deal in my last post from another Ukraine thread.
Graham is having his own issues with male prostitutes.
He's not going to be much help.

trump backs Putin and Israel.
Not americans and not anyone else.

 

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Perhaps you should as for a one on one with Zelenskyy. I am sure he would love to hear your POV.
Z has many many supporters among citizens in the west. And since the
humiliation Trump and Vance subject him to was aired to the world
he has won more sympathy from outside the west as well. I've noticed
sentiments expressed in the media in Asia which generally took a more
neutral stance on the Ukraine war have become more anti-Trump and
anti-Putin lately.

Zelensky could easily turn to milllions of well-wishers around the world
for advices rather than me. My POV is more suited for someone more pragmatic
and less idealistic.
 

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In other words, the Russian asset is doing his job?
Looks like Putin is ready to cozy up to Trump's master. I
think it is more like the two are on equal terms than one
being the other's asset. Trump shall be thankful his master
in Jerusalem will help normalize the U.S.-Russia relationship.

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My understanding is that the kind of security guarantee Zelensky
has in mind would be something not even South Vietnam during the
years when U.S. troops were dying to defend them was entitled to.
And this understanding is based on what, exactly?

We in Canada can expect other NATO members coming to
our rescue when invaded. But I doubt our security is guaranteed.
Do you not know what a security guarantee is?
 
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