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Trump/Zelensky deal turns into Jerry Springer episode

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Let's be honest, Trump never had any intentions of helping Ukraine. It was all show.
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“America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests”
― Henry Kissinger


If the Ukraine mineral grab turns out to be a profitable
investment rest assured Trump's successor, Democrats
and Republicans alike, will carry on with Trump's policy
of ripping Ukraine off.
 

kherg007

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Remember the vast majority of the US aid to Ukraine was spent in the USA, given to American companies that manufacturer equipment and armaments. So this idea that the money is handed to Ukraine is bs. Thus the USA pays for various machinery, ships the old ones in stocks to Ukraine, and builds the new one for the US Army or whatever branch.

There is other aid too, like us companies helping ukraine rebuild its electrical grid as the russians attack it hoping to freeze out civilians. Its truly evil shit, and considered a war crime. The guys the USA is sidling up to. The ones who attacked. Who routinely target hospitals and schools. Unfuckingbelievable.
 

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Remember the vast majority of the US aid to Ukraine was spent in the USA, given to American companies that manufacturer equipment and armaments. So this idea that the money is handed to Ukraine is bs. Thus the USA pays for various machinery, ships the old ones in stocks to Ukraine, and builds the new one for the US Army or whatever branch.

There is other aid too, like us companies helping ukraine rebuild its electrical grid as the russians attack it hoping to freeze out civilians. Its truly evil shit, and considered a war crime. The guys the USA is sidling up to. The ones who attacked. Who routinely target hospitals and schools. Unfuckingbelievable.
US also paid government salaries, health care and pensions. And fancy cars and villas in Monaco
 

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Remember the vast majority of the US aid to Ukraine was spent in the USA, given to American companies that manufacturer equipment and armaments. So this idea that the money is handed to Ukraine is bs. Thus the USA pays for various machinery, ships the old ones in stocks to Ukraine, and builds the new one for the US Army or whatever branch.

There is other aid too, like us companies helping ukraine rebuild its electrical grid as the russians attack it hoping to freeze out civilians. Its truly evil shit, and considered a war crime. The guys the USA is sidling up to. The ones who attacked. Who routinely target hospitals and schools. Unfuckingbelievable.
What you failed to see is that part of the arms that are shipped to Ukraine doesn't end in the hands of their troops...
 
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kherg007

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What you failed to see is that part of the arms that are shipped to Ukraine doesn't end in the hands of their troops...
I gently suggest expanding your news sources.
 
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I just sick of this Idiot Trump and he has almost 4 more years to go. The guy is a complete wack job good riddance when he leaves!!
You have a backyard you can dig a bunker on? dont' know how much longer you can take it...you''re only 2 months in of this MAGA...
 
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kherg007

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You mean watch CNN and MSNBC? I do...learn my lesson from the get go...have you heard about the Russia collusion?
Yes, Mueller, plus the republican led senate report, showed Russians interfered on behalf of Trump, and although not coordinating with Trump, he welcomed their help. Recently Trump killed the FBI office who is charged with keeping foreigners out of US elections.
 

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That dunce would be writing more $100 billion cheques to Zelensky and championing the ongoing bloodshed.

The kind of politician that thinks sending money everywhere solves problems, at the expense of US citizens.
They would not spend it on US citizens anyhow. Most probably another massive tax cut to the rich at the most. At the expense of the one in needs.
 
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kherg007

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Nothing of the sort. Durham did not debunk any of it. He claimed in his conclusion they should not have started the probes, but other fbi agents vehemently disagreed. He was hired to prove it was a hoax and he did not, nor get any indictments but a minor one for a guy lying about something not directly related to the investigation. Lostv2 other cases. Durham had more time and money than Mueller who got dozens of indictments and convictions.
Trump called for Russian help. Within hours they released Hilary's emails. Every member of his campaign met w Russians. Every single one lied about it at first.
 

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kherg007

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Look who's backtracking now

True. I am barracking that DJT was using it as a bargaining tactic. However, given he's given Putin everything he wants I'm fearing that whatever Zelenskyy does it won't be enough. DJT so clearly in the thrall of Putin. Z will never get usa weapons or support. I hope I'm wrong.
 

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Look who's backtracking now

He is not back tracking.
He said even before the Oval Office spat, that he is ready to sign over mineral deals, but wants security guarantees.
He is saying the same thing now, so no change.
 
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