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bver_hunter

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Yes they are hotheads. Yes weakening Russia was certainly a goal. But the Russian economy grew, their mic expanded vastly and their military is now the most hardened and advanced infantry on the planet.
The only factors that showed growth in Russia since the war is inflation, bankruptcy, military spending and interest rates:

Russian economy meltdown as housing developers face 'bankruptcy' and mortgage rates soar
Russia is grappling with 21% interest rates as food prices soar and businesses struggle.

 

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He was an underling of President Trump, whereas Z was an equal head of state.
That guy from India Modi doesn't weat a suit either. Kim Jong IL doesn't either.
I wonder if Steve Apple was alive and donated a quarter billion to Trump’s campaign and programme Apple devices to feed pro-Trump stuff and block anti-Trump memesif his t shirt would be ok?

Steve Jobs may be the most notable example—he wore jeans and a black turtleneck for a big chunk of his life because it was easier to just have a bunch of those hanging in his closet and pull them on by default. He knew what he was wearing every day, so that was one less decision to fatigue him.Dec 1, 2022
 
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Partially true.
Crimeans are happy to live under Russian rule.
I admit though, I dont know enough about Belarus
Crimeans, along with Estonians Lithuanians Latvians etc. are living with the spawn of Satan Russian squatters who occupied their counties courtesy of the Soviet Empire. They are not welcome and they present a parasitic threat to the ethnic population of those countries. A lot of them are drawing their old age pensions from mother Russia and have no intention of going home. They are a thorn in the flesh of the legitimate inhabitants who have to tolerate their presence, and who would be much happier if they would fuck off back to where they came from. Russia.
 
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Trump isn't imposing some new dress code. It's proper etiquette for all leaders of other nations to show respect when visiting other leaders at their highest official government buildings dressed properly- not like they're shopping at Walmart.
The US demands that other countries follow American business fashion rules?
how colonial.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Crimeans, along with Estonians Lithuanians Latvians etc. are living with the spawn of Satan Russian squatters who occupied their counties courtesy of the Soviet Empire. They are not welcome and they present a parasitic threat to the ethnic population of those countries. A lot of them are drawing their old age pensions from mother Russia and have no intention of going home. They are a thorn in the flesh of the legitimate inhabitants who have to tolerate their presence, and who would be much happier if they would fuck off back to where they came from. Russia
I belong to a soccer facebook group that has members from over 100 countries, and what you said about Crimeans is not true.
Not according to what they've said
 

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Why would Zelensky sign a deal unless there were iron clad security guarantees? He probably came over to negotiate that guarantee. It's probably a good thing that he didn't sign because neither Trump, nor his boss Putin could ever be trusted (whatever happened to that free trade deal Trump signed with Canada and Mexico, anyway). Ukraine gave up the third-largest nuclear arsenal in the world voluntarily at the end of the USSR under the Budapest accords guaranteed by the U.S., UK, Russia and EU, giving up several trillion of dollars of nuclear weapons in return for security guarantees for its territorial integrity which Russia has violated and the U.S., UK and EU vowed to protect. If Ukraine had kept its nuclear weapons, it would have been one of the most nuclear armed countries in the world and Russia would have never invaded.
Are you always this late to the party? This not world War 2 where tanks and b52s are the name of the game. Even of the entire Eu promised to put "boots on the ground that is not a guarantee on safety.." an economic deal with the US guarantees Ukraine that Russia wouldn't want to dip their hands on someone's cookie jar if that someone has the capabilities to wipe them off the map... olo just want the skirmish to continue so that the dollars keep on coming..
 
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The US demands that other countries follow American business fashion rules?
how colonial.
Not necessarily. Formal attire that's custom for diplomatic talks in their homeland would be accepted- which in Z's case is a business suit. Trump should have strapped him back in the booster seat of that Suburban and said you can come back when you're dressed like a big boy not in pyjamas!
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Time for USA to leave NATO and remake it as a European organization.

Unfortunately, Canada is led by idiots and will likely stay.

Let the warmongers in Europe try their luck. I understand that UK has 40 operational tanks.
I cant believe I'm actually agreeing with communist Danmand on something :oops:
 
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