Ukraine-Russia peace talks to start this friday in Munich

[oil&gas]

So you are saying that it was bad that the Bolsheviks overthrew the regime of Nicholas II.

It is neither good nor bad for the abject disaster that was Nicholas II to
be overthrown. I see it to be an inevitable historical event. You may lament
it was the evil communist that overthrew imperial Russia, It is unfortunate
the course of history picked the communist as the saviour of mother
Russia. But I don't see who else other than Lenin or his other comrades
could have unified a country left devastated (and disintegrated as well)
by the most inept regime in its history.

 

[Bucktee]

Chamberlain brokered a peace deal with Germany, the deal being they could have Czechoslovakia. Czechoslovakia wasn't invited to the meeting. They were kept waiting outside the door. Something like how Trump and Putin aren't inviting Zelensky into the meetings they are planning. Trump is brokering a deal where Russia can have the Ukraine. You're right I guess. No similarities.

Zelensky already had talks with Trump behind closed doors and told Trump that he can send all the money he wants to the Ukraine war effort but the bodies are stacked so high they can't stack anymore. They need to end this thing. Desperation galore.

And Russia is nowhere near the strongest military in the world, which was the position of Nazi Germany in 1938. In fact, the Nazis would have won the war if Hitler's ego/beliefs didn't tell him he could fight the US, Western Europe, and Russia simultaneously.

Side note: In the 1936 Olympics the Germans were the Master Race. They took home 14 more Gold medals than the USA, and 101 total medals compared to 57 for the USA.

1936 Summer Olympics - Wikipedia

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[WyattEarp]

So just out of curiosity, are you in favor of "The US and Russia negotiate a peace and then tell Ukraine what to do"?

This is not optimal from an optics perspective.
However, it gets Zelensky out from having to concede new boundaries which could be a political problem for him.

These type of questions might be intriguing, but they are what they are. And, we don't know what is going on behind the scenes.

 

[shack]

It is neither good nor bad for the abject disaster that was Nicholas II to
be overthrown. I see it to be an inevitable historical event. You may lament
it was the evil communist that overthrew imperial Russia, It is unfortunate
the course of history picked the communist as the saviour of mother
Russia. But I don't see who else other than Lenin or his other comrades
could have unified a country left devastated (and disintegrated as well)
by the most inept regime in its history.

Well written.

 

[WyattEarp]

It's been a disaster from the point of view of their objectives in starting the war.
That said, any setback due to that has probably been overwhelmed by the benefits of getting Trump back into power.

Yes, I can see why it's tempting to make this about Trump.
As I said earlier in regards to the Trump resistance effort as it relates to the Ukraine, "Of course, hardly anyone is offering any realistic thoughts on what should happen."

 

[WyattEarp]

How cavalier armchair quarterbacks can be when discussing war abroad. Just keep fighting and broker a peace deal later, they say.

Some of you literally have to experience Hell to get any sense of it.

If you're going to fight a war on the ground, you need men to fight it. When you run out of bodies to send to certain death, a change of course has to happen.

War is not a video game or TERB political talk.

What if I am still butthurt that Putin fucked over Hillary Clinton?

 

[WyattEarp]

Good ol' Donald "unilateral surrender" Trump.

Good ol' Joe "Ukrainian slaughter" Biden.

 

[The Oracle]

Yes, I can see why it's tempting to make this about Trump.
As I said earlier in regards to the Trump resistance effort as it relates to the Ukraine, "Of course, hardly anyone is offering any realistic thoughts on what should happen."

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Think of the Democrats as being the dead spot on the floor..

 

[WyattEarp]

So you are saying that it was bad that the Bolsheviks overthrew the regime of Nicholas II.

The Soviets kept the empire. It was too much a part of the Russian psyche in 1918. It probably still is.

I was thinking more about the dissolution of the Austrian and Ottoman Empires.

If we keep things in context, my point was that we don't want the EU Vice President encouraging thoughts of further breaking up Russia. This isn't 1918. This is 2025 with nuclear weapons likely scattered all over Russia.

 

[Valcazar]

This is not optimal from an optics perspective.
However, it gets Zelensky out from having to concede new boundaries which could be a political problem for him.

How is this not a political problem for him if he doesn't even get the appearance of having a say?

These type of questions might be intriguing, but they are what they are. And, we don't know what is going on behind the scenes.

We don't, it's true.
We only have the appearances they are presenting publicly.

 

[Valcazar]

Yes, I can see why it's tempting to make this about Trump.

You don't think Russia's vastly improved position with Trump in charge isn't a win for Russia?

As I said earlier in regards to the Trump resistance effort as it relates to the Ukraine, "Of course, hardly anyone is offering any realistic thoughts on what should happen."

Including Trump and Hesgeth right now, sadly.

 

[Frankfooter]

The majority protesting and staying home for the vote were Arabs/Muslims yes! The majority of Dems and Lefts stand by Israel and not Hamas.

Not at all.
50% of Canadians say Israel is committing genocide.
Do you really think 41% of Canadians are Muslim?

This poll is a year old, think there are more or fewer people who think Israel is committing genocide?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1758853813153255820

 

[Frankfooter]

This is not optimal from an optics perspective.
However, it gets Zelensky out from having to concede new boundaries which could be a political problem for him.

These type of questions might be intriguing, but they are what they are. And, we don't know what is going on behind the scenes.

When Putin tells trump what the new borders are you think Zelensky won't be forced into conceding these as new borders?

 

[squeezer]

Not even close…Trump hasn’t brought the tanks to the border

I never said he has, I'm making a point. I don't believe he will, in his own words, an economic war.

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[Phil C. McNasty]

Vance says US has economic and military ‘tools of leverage’ if Russia doesn’t push for peace with Ukraine

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/14/politics/jd-vance-us-troops-russia-ukraine-intl-hnk/index.html

Vice President JD Vance warned on Thursday that the United States could hit Russia with economic and military “tools of leverage” if Russian leader Vladimir Putin doesn’t negotiate a peace deal with Ukraine in good faith.

Speaking to the Wall Street Journal on Thursday, Vance said the option of sending US troops to Ukraine was “on the table,” as well as economic punishment if a peace deal doesn’t guarantee Kyiv’s long-term independence.

 

[shack]

The Soviets kept the empire. It was too much a part of the Russian psyche in 1918. It probably still is.

I was thinking more about the dissolution of the Austrian and Ottoman Empires.

If we keep things in context, my point was that we don't want the EU Vice President encouraging thoughts of further breaking up Russia. This isn't 1918. This is 2025 with nuclear weapons likely scattered all over Russia.

Fair enough.

Just so I got it right, were the dissolutions of the Austrian and Ottoman empires bad things and if so why? FYI, these are episodes of history that I am not overly familiar with.

 

[shack]

Yes, I can see why it's tempting to make this about Trump.
As I said earlier in regards to the Trump resistance effort as it relates to the Ukraine, "Of course, hardly anyone is offering any realistic thoughts on what should happen."

What should happen is that Zelensky should be involved directly in any talks regarding the future of his country. Anything less means that nefarious deeds are being discussed in his absence. Skullduggery.

 

[squeezer]

SO much for Trump containing Russia, LMFAO

Ukraine says Russia drone attack hit Chernobyl nuclear plant

 

[shack]

Not at all.
50% of Canadians say Israel is committing genocide.
Do you really think 41% of Canadians are Muslim?

This poll is a year old, think there are more or fewer people who think Israel is committing genocide?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1758853813153255820

Very poor interpretation of what that graph shows. AKA, you invented a biased analysis.

That graph clearly shows that 59% of Canadians are not willing to say that Israel is committing genocide. Only 41% are willing to say that. That is objective and irrefutable. That some are unsure means nothing, one way or the other.

 

[Frankfooter]

Very poor interpretation of what that graph shows. AKA, you invented a biased analysis.

That graph clearly shows that 59% of Canadians are not willing to say that Israel is committing genocide. Only 41% are willing to say that. That is objective and irrefutable. That some are unsure means nothing, one way or the other.

You think a poll showing 41% of Canadians say Israel is committing genocide is a win? Wow, that's messed up.
The number were about the same for the US last May as well.

And still you back Israeli genocide.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1788186793759617044