Trump : Palestinians, please move out of GAZA. We (USA) will clean it up and make it the Riviera of the middle east. Then you can come back.

[Leimonis]

I am talking about pro-Palestinians.
They should have voted Harris.

I dont know if it’s as obvious as you guy make it seem to be.
First of Palestinians haven’t had a good life any
time recently so as far as hamas or other members of their team are concerned it’s okay for them to continue live in shit for a while it’s not really a sacrifice.
second, what if Palestinians can drag their suffering for long enough to poison enough people in America to convince the dems to turn their back on israel? If they are playing long game and they give no shit about their people’s quality of life maybe that’s gonna work for them?
remember for hamas what’s important it’s to continue their struggle. It’s not the destination it’s the journey. They have power and money while the journey lasts.

 

[Frankfooter]

You still cannot comprehend that I'm denouncing all forms of terrorism and killings whether it is Hamas or Irgun or the present IDF. I know that you are the one who will give Irgun a pat on the back as well as make excuses for the IDF's indiscriminate bombings and killings of women and children. Let us hear you condemn those killings as you are the one that is making a clown out of yourself with your baseless and amateurish deflections!!

Exactly, every zionist thinks the world thinks like them and think genocide is the natural solution to all problems.
The rest of us just want both sides held to the law.
Zionists think equal rights are antisemitic.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Either way they lose.

No they don't.
They lose everything when they are ethnically cleansed.
The US is not a pro-Palestinian country, so when you vote you pick the best candidate to get the best possible outcome that you can get, with what you've got.

 

[Frankfooter]

I dont know if it’s as obvious as you guy make it seem to be.
First of Palestinians haven’t had a good life any
time recently so as far as hamas or other members of their team are concerned it’s okay for them to continue live in shit for a while it’s not really a sacrifice.
second, what if Palestinians can drag their suffering for long enough to poison enough people in America to convince the dems to turn their back on israel? If they are playing long game and they give no shit about their people’s quality of life maybe that’s gonna work for them?
remember for hamas what’s important it’s to continue their struggle. It’s not the destination it’s the journey. They have power and money while the journey lasts.

Right, now you think Palestinians planned the genocide in order to turn americans off of zionism.
That is just so twisted.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1888272846696202730

 

[Frankfooter]

No they don't.
They lose everything when they are ethnically cleansed.
The US is not a pro-Palestinian country, so when you vote you pick the best candidate to get the best possible outcome that you can get, with what you've got.

Ethnic cleansing won't happen.
Its less likely than the US taking over Canada.

Its as stupid as trump saying he's going to buy it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1888731796054901129

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

No, nobody who supports Palestinian rights could vote for the party paying for and aiding genocide.
What trump will do remains to be seen.

...but you can vote for a guy who openly supports ethnic cleansing?
Okay great.
If Trump is your hero, then you made your bed, you lie in it.
And dont complain when he ethnically cleanses the region or removes all restraints on Israel.

 

[danmand]

...but you can vote for a guy who openly supports ethnic cleansing?
Okay great.
If Trump is your hero, then you made your bed, you lie in it.
And dont complain when he ethnically cleanses the region or removes all restraints on Israel.

Have you considered the option that Frank ( like me) would not vote for any of the two?

 

[Frankfooter]

...but you can vote for a guy who openly supports ethnic cleansing?
Okay great.
If Trump is your hero, then you made your bed, you lie in it.
And dont complain when he ethnically cleanses the region or removes all restraints on Israel.

6 million people chose none of the above, staying home because they couldn't vote for any form of hitler.
You still refuse to blame the dems for backing hitler lite and putting her on the ballot.

Declaring that means that 'trump is their hero' is idiotic and just plain wrong.

Uncommitted worked very hard to meet with Harris, she met and offered them nothing.
So she lost the election.

That was her choice, ceasefire and win the election or bomb kids.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1836962186901541299

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Have you considered the option that Frank ( like me) would not vote for any of the two?

See my earlier comment.
Not voting for Hitler lite, or voting for Hitler, both get you Hitler.
When you have a bad choice and a worse choice, you choose the bad choice.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

6 million people chose none of the above, staying home because they couldn't vote for any form of hitler.
You still refuse to blame the dems for backing hitler lite and putting her on the ballot.

Declaring that means that 'trump is their hero' is idiotic and just plain wrong.

There is no use blaming the Democrats because both Dems and Republicans will support Israel.
Even if you bring back Jimmy Carter he is going to play by the rules and support Israel.
So in this scenario, you choose Hitler lite.
Anything else is a stupid choice.
But as I said if you are standing by it, dont complain when the Nazi ethnically cleanses Gaza.

 

[Butler1000]

No they don't.
They lose everything when they are ethnically cleansed.
The US is not a pro-Palestinian country, so when you vote you pick the best candidate to get the best possible outcome that you can get, with what you've got.

They are going to be ethnically clensed either way. That's it. Your point is moot.

 

[danmand]

See my earlier comment.
Not voting for Hitler lite, or voting for Hitler, both get you Hitler.
When you have a bad choice and a worse choice, you choose the bad choice.

I disagree. If the choice is between somebody who has been a participant in the genocide and someone who you think will be a participant in the genocide and ethnic cleansing, I think the appropriate action is to withheld my vote from both. Of course, I was in the fortunate situation not to face this problem.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

I disagree. If the choice is between somebody who has been a participant in the genocide and someone who you think will be a participant in the genocide and ethnic cleansing, I think the appropriate action is to withheld my vote from both. Of course, I was in the fortunate situation not to face this problem.

As I said if that is your judgement when choosing a candidate, dont complain when Trump takes steps that work out to be disastrous for the Palestinians.
And he will.

 

[shack]

Yes, there is, FDR a s an example achieved it with Social Security and the New Deal. Lyndon Johnson with the Civil Rights Act and Medicare. Trudeau Sr. With the Constitution and Charter of rights. Our own Universal Healthcare System.

The Magna Carta. And many more.

You have just shown, in the clearest terms, the problem. When you don't expect better and strive for it, you will never achieve it.

Accepting that, I would ask as a variation of Shaq's question, in the last election which choice do you think would have done a better job of acting for the better good?

 

[Frankfooter]

As I said if that is your judgement when choosing a candidate, dont complain when Trump takes steps that work out to be disastrous for the Palestinians.
And he will.

No, you can withhold your vote, protest Biden, protest Harris and then protest trump and have a moral standing.
If you bend over and say, ok, just a little genocide but can you use lube, you lose all moral framework.

You can no longer say you are against corruption or that you have any moral limits.
You are willing to join in genocide.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

No, you can withhold your vote, protest Biden, protest Harris and then protest trump and have a moral standing.

Biden did not really support a genocide.
This is your allegation.
You are putting Israeli actions on Biden.
But if protesting and having a moral standing is more important than an ethnic cleansing, then sure.
You made your bed, you lie in it.
Just dont complain later for the stupid choices you made.

 

[shack]

You still cannot comprehend that I'm denouncing all forms of terrorism and killings whether it is Hamas or Irgun or the present IDF. I know that you are the one who will give Irgun a pat on the back as well as make excuses for the IDF's indiscriminate bombings and killings of women and children. Let us hear you condemn those killings as you are the one that is making a clown out of yourself with your baseless and amateurish deflections!!

What you fail to comprehend that when you say that you condemn terrorism yet at the same time give justification for it or use "whataboutism" as an excuse, it means that your condemnation is meaningless. You don't really mean it. You are not fooling anyone. You are endorsing the Oct.7 attack. You cannot speak out of both sides of your mouth.

 

[shack]

No they don't.
They lose everything when they are ethnically cleansed.
The US is not a pro-Palestinian country, so when you vote you pick the best candidate to get the best possible outcome that you can get, with what you've got.

You are talking about the here and now that the voters were faced with in November. I don't think that it should be a difficult concept to grasp.

 

[bver_hunter]

What you fail to comprehend that when you say that you condemn terrorism yet at the same time give justification for it or use "whataboutism" as an excuse, it means that your condemnation is meaningless. You don't really mean it. You are not fooling anyone. You are endorsing the Oct.7 attack. You cannot speak out of both sides of your mouth.

See how you will not condemn the killings on all sides like I did. Yet you try to make these "whataboutism" nonsense as your excuse to deflect from a simple question:

Do you condemn the killings of not only Hamas, but also Irgun in the past, as well as the indiscriminate bombings of the mainly Palestinian Women and Children by The IDF?

The vast majority of Nations around the Globe did so and even designated the killings in the manner that it was conducted by The IDF as "Genocide"!!
My POV is in line with the vast majority, but yet you act in a childish way in the manner in which you avoid a very simple and basic question and then falsely try to state that I somehow support the Oct 7th Killings!!

 

[Frankfooter]

Biden did not really support a genocide.
This is your allegation.
You are putting Israeli actions on Biden.
But if protesting and having a moral standing is more important than an ethnic cleansing, then sure.
You made your bed, you lie in it.
Just dont complain later for the stupid choices you made.

Genocide Joe paid 70% of the bill for the bombs used to kill Palestinian children, 4 times vetoed ceasefire calls at the UN, threatened the ICC and publicly declared he was a zionist. trump proved that the US could force Israel to stop.

You made your bed, you lie in it.
You can no longer say you are against MAGA because of the law or that you are against corruption.
That means you are no different than MAGA, you just back hitler lite.

50% of Biden voters say Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians, poll finds

The shocking poll result comes as Democratic divisions over Israel continue to deepen, and the death toll in Gaza surpasses 25,000.

www.businessinsider.com