Tariffs on Canada delayed for 30 days after talk between Trudeau and Trump. Trump folds.

shack

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If you flip your Trump cult theory around and say the Washington establishment is a cult,
Based on what? There is no central figure that they are all slavishly devoted to. There are many factions pushing and pulling in all different directions. The Washington establishment is anything but.

Even if the unifying factor is a dislike of trump, that is still not what a cult is.

I think you need to start with a different premise.
 
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Based on what? There is no central figure that they are all slavishly devoted to. There are many factions pushing and pulling in all different directions. The Washington establishment is anything but.

Even if the unifying factor is a dislike of trump, that is still not what a cult is.

I think you need to start with a different premise.
Okay, perhaps not the right word. So let's say Washington is a giant beast. Its cohesion is built around money and spending.

Personally, I think your response was trivial. Everyone understood what the reference meant.

I am tolerant of the use of the word cult. It's generally overused to describe things groups and phenomena that people dislike.
 
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I am tolerant of the use of the word cult. It's generally overused to describe things groups and phenomena that people dislike.
then again, some things resemble a cult more than others
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I am tolerant of the use of the word cult.
Unfortunately, the use of cult to describe MAGA is 100% accurate,

It's generally overused to describe things groups and phenomena that people dislike.
And that's exactly what you intended to do when you called tried calling Washington establishment a cult and then retracted it because you knew that it was wrong.

MAGA is objectively a cult. They bow to and serve the master as if he is perfect. Nobody challenges, nor even questions him. They are spellbound.

And the people that can't see it are the ones in the cult because, as I've included in the list every time, they have lost the ability to see and accept reality.

You need to break the mirror, Tommy.

Question and please be honest: In your opinion is trump the greatest prez in the history of the US?
 

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Unfortunately, the use of cult to describe MAGA is 100% accurate,

And that's exactly what you intended to do when you called tried calling Washington establishment a cult and then retracted it because you knew that it was wrong.
Thanks for the didactic analysis of the word "cult".

MAGA is objectively a cult. They bow to and serve the master as if he is perfect. Nobody challenges, nor even questions him. They are spellbound.

And the people that can't see it are the ones in the cult because, as I've included in the list every time, they have lost the ability to see and accept reality.
Ahhh, yes. You are one of the TERB keepers of the truth. You decide what's objective.

Of course, there's a small group of Trump supporters who give him unquestioning support. There's likely a cult-like group around Bernie Sanders that we don't see. Winning an election with 77 million voters is pretty much the antithesis of a cult leader.

Question and please be honest: In your opinion is trump the greatest prez in the history of the US?
Don't try to be clever. I get tired of these nonstop rhetorical questions that try to patronize members that don't agree with them.

Trump is not the greatest President history. No, I don't support a third term. Yes, he says stupid things. Yes, he's old maybe too old. Trudeau's ten years in power was a failure.
 
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]The Libs may go too far left for political correctness, but I believe that the Liberal ceiling for tolerance of Trudeau is much lower than that of Republicans for trump. Just the fact that a number of Lib members of parliament spoke up publicly and forced Trudeau to resign is evidence of that
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The rats know when the ship is sinking
A cult would not do that.
Sure they will a whole pile of Nazis made their way to South America
a rats survival instinct kicks in

I know Trudeau had low ratings but he'd never actually lost an election
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a national curse and shame

The GoP would never speak out about trump like that because they're either afraid of or a part of the cult.
He lost an election

your logic is not aligned with your hypothesis
unless you are willing to concede the abnormally and very unique high vote count in 2022 was indeed ballot box stuffing by the democrats to overcome the cults devotion vote


As we speak, their lips remain zipped as trump is turning the US upside down. He will try to retain power 4 years from now.
people generally vote in their own best interest
if Trump is successful he will retain support
if he is not, he wont
He did learn something from his first go round, and upgraded the his team
it would require something along the lines of a constitutional change to allow him to run for a 3rd term
4 years is a long time when your 78 years old , apparently he is a workaholic.
a whole lot is going to happen before a third term becomes a real question

At this point, I prefer to agree to disagree with your point of view. I highly doubt that we'll meet in the middle.
I shall remain eternally optimistic I can help you become incrementally more enlightened.
do not worry , i am not a fan of Trumps (nasty personality), however the left has become scary and require a tap back towards the center to ensure a viable and realistic alternative

Elon musk is opening up the kimono on them and their corruption is going to haunt the democrats
hopefully that is the required tap.

perhaps one day the republicans will require a tap back towards the center.
it is of the utmost importance for a successful democracy to have viable credible choices for the electorate to choose from
you say Trump supporters are a cult, i say the democrats lost the election because they drifted too far left and made a mess of it


Just as a p.s. type of question, do you think that the Liberal party of Canada will elect a leader that is more or less left wing than Trudeau
You should ask the WEF that question
Old Klaus Swab was so proud they had penetrated (his words not mine) the Canadian Liberal cabinet with so many WEF members

it looks like its Carney.
and he wants to offload the consumer carbon tax burden onto the corporate sector
while trump is going to cut the tax burden on the US corporate sector
jobs, companies and investment dollars will flow south.to the US

Carney has spoke of UBI , a great ideologically driven gift to the electorate, but a recipe for economic disaster

I truly believe, that Canada absolutely must elect Pierre P in order to not get run over economically by Trump
There is no guarantee Pierre P can prevent that from happening, but we will have fighting chance with him.
Another liberal govt will put Canadian unity at great risk as well. Alberta has had enough of the Trudeau family , they wont stand for Trudeau 3.0
 
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people generally vote in their own best interest
if Trump is successful he will retain support
if he is not, he wont.
That's it in a nutshell. It doesn't matter if you like him or not. If he delivers results, voters will support or accept his leadership. Americans are very pragmatic at the core. The stuff we see on social media and even news media is generally partisan hyperbole.

If winning elections and rallying broad support across various groups is a cult, apparently I don't understand what a cult is.
 

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Thanks for the didactic analysis of the word "cult".
Seeing that its' definition is important to our discussion, I thought it best that it's definition be clarified.

Ahhh, yes. You are one of the TERB keepers of the truth. You decide what's objective.[/QUOTE]I have clearly and consistently demonstrated that I take a lefty perspective on some issues and a rightie perspective on others. I am beholden to no party, ideology philosophy, religion or "ism" of any kind. Just as no individual is correct 100% of the time (trump? LOLOLOL) none of the institutions I listed are correct 100% of the time. It disturbs to see people consistently and unwaveringly adhere to a particular people. People from all walks of life need to fucking think for themselves and not be fucking mindless sheep. TERB, as a reflection of society overall has a bunch of fucking brainless sheep from all sides.

As such, I believe that I am more objective than most. So, to a great extent, you are correct.

Of course, there's a small group of Trump supporters who give him unquestioning support.[/QUOTE I'm not gonna touch that, other than to repeat my claim that people in a cult, including MAGA, are incapable of seeing reality. It's as if they are blind.

Yeah. Very small. LOL. Start with all the repug senators and congressmen.

Trump is not the greatest President history. No, I don't support a third term. Yes, he says stupid things. Yes, he's old maybe too old.
Glad to hear that. What do you mean about clever, rhetorical, patronizing? It was a fair and valid question and I accept your answer at face value. There were 2 distinct choices, so that disproves what you said about it being rhetorical.
 
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Again , how old are you ?
do you really think i give a rats ass about childish name calling?




who is going to take him out ?
You the internet tough guy?

He can be an asshole , but do not fool yourself, he is not going anywhere
Canada needs to be smart when dealing with him or we will get screwed big time
lol, You act like he wasn't an inch away from getting his head blown off a few months back. I don't have to do anything. He has enough enemies right now.

If he doesn't tone it down, no he will not make it 4 years. But I predict he will continue to fold. You can only speak bullshit for so long.
 
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