Israel at war

[mandrill]

The 3 H's are terror groups and are not representative of the average Palestinian. The average Palestinian does hold the identity of a Palestinian today.

Given that present-day Jordan was part of British Mandatory Palestine, where is the surging movement for West Bank and Gaza Arabs to reunite with their Jordanian brethren in a glorious Pan-Palestine reunification???

Doesn't exist, does it?

That's because Jordan is government by a moderate, non fanatic royal family and Hamas and the PA want nothing to do with Jordan and vice versa. That's because Hamas considers the Jordanian government almost as big an enemy as the Jews.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Al-Jazeera is moderately liberal biased but on the whole is reliable

Their coverage of the Russia-Ukraine war has been excellent so far.

Probably because they don't have a dog in that fight

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Given that present-day Jordan was part of British Mandatory Palestine, where is the surging movement for West Bank and Gaza Arabs to reunite with their Jordanian brethren in a glorious Pan-Palestine reunification???

Doesn't exist, does it?

That's because Jordan is government by a moderate, non fanatic royal family and Hamas and the PA want nothing to do with Jordan and vice versa. That's because Hamas considers the Jordanian government almost as big an enemy as the Jews.

Hamas is not representative of the average Palestinian. Jordan has cut itself off from this conflict since 1967, so they are not in the conversation at all.

 

[shack]

I apologize, I should have clarified. I personally consider the label to predate Israel's formation.

Stating something as your personal opinion and label, as you're doing, is not an attempt at trying to claim it is factual history. Fair enough.

 

[Leimonis]

But as we discussed the Palestinian label and identity predates the conflict, or even Israel's formation.

It does not. I posted Soviet rep address to UN dated 1947 earlier in this thread. It squarely addresses the issue. Palestinian (as Palestinian Arab) identity only came to existence after the conflict.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

It does not. I posted Soviet rep address to UN dated 1947 earlier in this thread. It squarely addresses the issue. Palestinian (as Palestinian Arab) identity only came to existence after the conflict.

Even if it did, it is still valid today in a very real sense as every Palestinian alive identifies as such.

 

[Leimonis]

Even if it did, it is still valid today in a very real sense as every Palestinian alive identifies as such.

we already agreed that it is real at least as long as the conflict is real (after which it may still be real but no one will really give a shit).
Meanwhile you are giving out labels rather generously. Who is “every Palestinian alive”? Are Arab citizens of israel Palestinians? They sure as hell live between the river and the sea and they ain’t Jews. But they are not in a hurry to move to gaza or West Bank.

Here’s an interesting poll: 502 Arab citizens of Israel above the age of 18 were asked about who should run Gaza the day after the war, most respondents (58.5%) said that the administration should be in the hands of Palestinians. Of those, 24.4% said they would prefer local bodies from Gaza to manage the Strip, followed by 19.4% who said it should be governed by the Palestinian Authority, and 14.7% said by Hamas.
Conversely, 34.4% of respondents said that an external non-Palestinian body should govern the coastal enclave. Of those, 19.4% opted for an international force, 8.4% chose Israel and 6.5% favored a coalition of Arab states.
So their identity and love for Palestine is kinda all over the place as one would expect.
Same with Israelis, same with Canadians. Identity may exist but a lot of people won’t identify as you may expect. Every nation have heroes and traitors and everyone in between.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Meanwhile you are giving out labels rather generously. Who is “every Palestinian alive”? Are Arab citizens of israel Palestinians?

Many Arab citizens of Israel consider themselves Palestinian by nationality and Israeli by citizenship. There are also those that dont use the Palestinian label. This is a very political issue because anyone who reports has a political agenda.
If you ask people in Gaza or the West Bank, they overwhelmingly consider themselves Palestinian.

 

[Frankfooter]

Given POS Nation’s psychotic behavior, I wouldn’t be surprised if they have not completed development

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843404827860074664

It may have happened already.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843335555909910536

 

[Frankfooter]

You're breaking new heights (or new lows) even by your "standards", Adolf

Israel and Netanyahu have charges pending at the ICC and ICJ for genocide and extermination.
That is the same crime as the nazis.

Those are the legal standards and Israel and nazis are now forever in the same conversations about genocide.
You just chose to side with genocide and nazis.

 

[Frankfooter]

you didn't answer the question....which wasn't about comedians

You just didn't like the answer.

 

[Frankfooter]

Exactly. I wouldn't even know how to make multiple handles without being caught. You just defeated your own claim.

Aside from your TERB KKK, nobody respects you. You asked me for a list and you got it. And that's just from the last 7 days in just 3 threads. This is your reality. You've worn out your welcome. You should just leave before the Feds investigate your hate speech.

Zionists are not welcome in toronto, Shazi.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843437522761986472

 

[Frankfooter]

You should just leave before the Feds investigate your hate speech.

A reminder:

318 (1) Every one who advocates or promotes genocide is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.

Definition of genocide
(2) In this section, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy in whole or in part any identifiable group, namely,
(a) killing members of the group; or
(b) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1773070448823025835

 

[Frankfooter]

Based on your TERB rep, your opinion is worth less than zero.


Thank you for just admitting that Israel has not done that. Charges are not a finding of guilt. Innocent until proven guilty. Charges and a finding of guilt are two very, very different things. Did you ever hear of O.J. Simpson?

Until the UN declares that Israel is committing genocide via a resolution from the UNGA Israel is innocent and you are guilty of hate speech every time you make such a statement.5 years.

You moved the goal posts over there now?
Holy fuck, your world gets tinier every day.
Even with Israel fighting to take even a bit of Lebanon the world reaction is deafening.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843403014851191287

 

[whynot888]

A reminder:

318 (1) Every one who advocates or promotes genocide is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.
Definition of genocide
(2) In this section, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy in whole or in part any identifiable group, namely,
(a) killing members of the group; or
(b) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1773070448823025835

Francesca Albanese LOL

UN Watch Files Proceedings to Remove UN's Hamas Apologist Francesca Albanese — Full Text of Draft Resolution - UN Watch

GENEVA, July 2, 2024 — UN Watch announced that today it has filed proceedings with the United Nations to remove Francesca Albanese. In a draft resolution submitted today to the President of the Human Rights Council (see text below), executive director Hillel Neuer called on the 47-nation body to...

unwatch.org

 

[whynot888]

It may have happened already.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843335555909910536

Oh geez, with their aim they will just nuke themselves.

 

[danmand]

Hamas is not representative of the average Palestinian. Jordan has cut itself off from this conflict since 1967, so they are not in the conversation at all.

The Jordanian royalty has, but the population has not.
The King may lose his kingdom.

 

[danmand]

That's my point, Dandy.

The British invented the concept of "Palestine".

Why did you not say so instead of:


"It was a name on a map in a textbook in the UK.

That's why the British used it. It had no reality for the inhabitants."

 

[Frankfooter]

Francesca Albanese LOL

UN Watch Files Proceedings to Remove UN's Hamas Apologist Francesca Albanese — Full Text of Draft Resolution - UN Watch

GENEVA, July 2, 2024 — UN Watch announced that today it has filed proceedings with the United Nations to remove Francesca Albanese. In a draft resolution submitted today to the President of the Human Rights Council (see text below), executive director Hillel Neuer called on the 47-nation body to...

unwatch.org

UN Watch is Israeli propaganda.
try again

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843377286495797679

 

[whynot888]

UN Watch is Israeli propaganda.
try again

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843377286495797679

Lol, and yours are any better haha