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Israeli terrorist attack on Lebanon kills 9, injures thousands

Frankfooter

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So you mean Israelis were not living in Israel prior?
How many times is Israel mentioned in Quaran and how mamy times is Palestine mentioned?
Let me tell you. They have yet to mention once Paleastine in the book. They mentioned Israel 43 times.
How did Temple Mount get there? Teleported? Lmao
Regarding your news outlets, find some credible sources ideally not biased.
Basketcase says only about 50% of Israeli Jews were born there.
The rest are foreign colonizers.


 

shack

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Basketcase says only about 50% of Israeli Jews were born there.
The rest are foreign colonizers.
All of a sudden, basketcase is now credible to you? How many heinous things have you accused him of, including being a perpetual liar.

Mind you, it's exactly like how you sometimes believe what the UN, HRW etc. say and then other times you dismiss/ignore their rulings when it's inconvenient.

It's called hypocrisy.
 
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shack

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I don't recall agreeing with you, but I guess if it makes you feel better.

"You and I" and "you and me" are both grammatically correct.
In the context of that sentence, "you and I" is the only correct grammar.

Or are you claiming that "me agreed with you" is proper

Your own link says that you're wrong:
Traditional Distinction Between “You and I” vs. “You and Me”

In order to see what’s changed, we have to understand the traditional way of differentiating these two phrase according to the grammar books. One thing is certain: You and I is not the same thing as you and me (similar case as who and whom).
Example:
You and I like our new neighbours.
Our new neighbours like you and me.

The convention says that you and I serves as a subject, and functions much like the pronoun we. On the other hand, you come across the phrase you and me as an object, just like the pronoun us.


So when I said "we" (meaning the 2 of us) agreed it meant "you and I agreed" because we were both the subject, not the object. To be the object it would be in a sentence like "He agreed with you and me.".

You didn't understand what was said in the link that you posted, and I'm not sure you understand it yet. You should stop trying to argue grammar with me. You are out of your league. What level of education did you achieve?


 

Frankfooter

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All of a sudden, basketcase is now credible to you? How many heinous things have you accused him of, including being a perpetual liar.

Mind you, it's exactly like how you sometimes believe what the UN, HRW etc. say and then other times you dismiss/ignore their rulings when it's inconvenient.

It's called hypocrisy.
Are you saying basketcase is a liar?

Its time for NATO to come in and force a ceasefire and the two state solution.

Denmark prime minister supports military intervention in Middle East: Report

Mette Frederiksen says an international military intervention in the Middle East could be a way to impose a two-state solution and break the current deadlock.
Frederiksen urged an overhaul of the international response to the conflict, which escalated as the Israeli army said it had launched a ground offensive against Hezbollah in southern Lebanon.
“There is no solution in sight to what we see going on over there, and there is no point in letting things continue,” Frederiksen told Danish news agency Ritzau.
 

shack

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Yes, Shazi.
Religious extremists are all fucked in the head and all think they are superior humans.
But that is not what your original post intended to say.

It took you 6 months to try and squirm out with that laughable qualifier. When you referenced "the chosen people" in an ongoing discussion dedicated to the wars in Gaza and Lebanon, it could have meant Israel and only Israel. As such, seeing who Israel was fighting against your use of "lesser humans" being slaughtered it unequivocally meant the Gazans or the Lebanese? So, is it the Gazans or the Lebanese that you consider lesser humans. Or is it both groups.

You're such a poor liar.
 

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Also i definitely do not agree with the countless civilians dying.
What i do understand is that wars are never preety for any party. This is why no country should start wars.
Lets get our mind off of this. Look where the Ukrainian conflict is heading.
Ukraine gave up soviet nuclear arsenal to Russia with assurances from US and Russia over their total territorial soveraignity
Russia, country supposed to protect them attacks Ukraine.
What if Ukraine detonates a dirty bomb in Moscow.
Who is to be blamed? Russia? Ukraine?
No clear answer.
Better not start a war
A war with your neighbour could start with fists, lead to knives and end with a handgun.
Wars are very chaotic, regardless of Geneva conventions and could lead anywhere.

This october 7th attack could have prevented so many civilian deaths. The blame is solely on Hamas.
Well-constructed and very rational post as well as being very civil and non-accusatory/confrontational.

If the discussion continues, I'm curious to see how long it will take for Geno/frank to try to change the tone of the discussion and attempt to drag you down to his level.

Just sayin'.
 

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You called me Zionist. I had told you i am not Israeli. Now you call me racist like i agree with the Israeli raping of hostages?
You seem to have a lot of anger for whatever reason that gives you tunnel vision. Think outside the box and see the whole picture logicly.
I used to enjoy having conversations with Frank and WRT to this war, I agree with 75% of what he says...but as you have seen, if you don't agree with him 100%, or discuss some context etc... then he says "you support genocide" etc. 🤷‍♂️
 
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But that is not what your original post intended to say.

It took you 6 months to try and squirm out with that laughable qualifier. When you referenced "the chosen people" in an ongoing discussion dedicated to the wars in Gaza and Lebanon, it could have meant Israel and only Israel. As such, seeing who Israel was fighting against your use of "lesser humans" being slaughtered it unequivocally meant the Gazans or the Lebanese? So, is it the Gazans or the Lebanese that you consider lesser humans. Or is it both groups.

You're such a poor liar.
You are a racial supremacist. I don't know if you're a religious fuckwad like bucksnot, but the quote about how fucked religious extremists are stands.
You stand with the people who label Palestinians as 'vermin' while calling for their extermination.

BEAUTIFUL!!!!
More scum vermin exterminated!!
Glory be to Israel!!
God is GREAT!
 

Frankfooter

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I used to enjoy having conversations with Frank and WRT to this war, I agree with 75% of what he says...but as you have seen, if you don't agree with him 100%, or discuss some context etc... then he says "you support genocide" etc. 🤷‍♂️
Schlong, I'm just quoting the UN reports, the ICJ charges and the ICC investigations all calling Israeli actions 'genocide'.
That's the way the world sees it, with the exception of some of the US and about a 1/3 of Canadians.

Its a giant shitshow that stands to only get worse.
Are you defending Israel's invasion of Lebanon while declaring that you are against Putin's invasion of Ukraine?
Do you think Israel making Iran the 5th country they are at war with will achieve any good?

I just want the fighting to stop and the world to force Israel to obey the law.
 

Frankfooter

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You are such a demented fuckwad who doesn’t have one iota of reading comprehension.

You really aren’t worth an ounce of piss.

This will be the absolute last time I waste anymore precious time on earth replying to your vile disgusting love of Hezbollah or Hamas.

Enjoy your pitiful tiny little life
That's the first good news I've read here.

21 years ago...
 

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Well-constructed and very rational post as well as being very civil and non-accusatory/confrontational.

If the discussion continues, I'm curious to see how long it will take for Geno/frank to try to change the tone of the discussion and attempt to drag you down to his level.

Just sayin'.
Be honest he is at a point of no return. It would be a waste of my time to attempt to make him think rationally and read any type of credible source as news.
 

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You don't consider the UN to be credible, do you?

The Geneva conventions?

How about Amnesty, do you think they are credible?
Lebanon and Hamas started this war. Now they will loose even more land that will be buffer so that Islamists will have a harder time crossing into Israel.
Then the UN has always been against Israel. Nothing new there.
Where is your voice to release the hostages so this way Israel has no more business in Gaza?
Exactly! Your human life value is very selective and one sided.
Shooting rockets from kindergardens at Israelis is more important then the potential loss of inocent Palestinians kids lost. Rockets are only there so you can post after some twitter link from some other Islamist of how Israel bombed a kindergarden and killed innocent civilians.
The Innocent civilian death from those rockets on Israels side would have been fine.
Gives someone entrance to heaven with whatever number of virgins the highest promise was that day.
 

Frankfooter

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Lebanon and Hamas started this war. Now they will loose even more land that will be buffer so that Islamists will have a harder time crossing into Israel.
Then the UN has always been against Israel. Nothing new there.
Where is your voice to release the hostages so this way Israel has no more business in Gaza?
Exactly! Your human life value is very selective and one sided.
Shooting rockets from kindergardens at Israelis is more important then the potential loss of inocent Palestinians kids lost. Rockets are only there so you can post after some twitter link from some other Islamist of how Israel bombed a kindergarden and killed innocent civilians.
The Innocent civilian death from those rockets on Israels side would have been fine.
Gives someone entrance to heaven with whatever number of virgins the highest promise was that day.
What total nonsense.

Israel has been illegally occupying Palestine for 76 years, including Gaza, along with 50 year old occupations of parts of Syria and Lebanon.
As the occupier they cannot declare war on Gaza or Hamas.

You sound like all the other zionist racist types here and its easy to point out.
You refuse to accept that Palestinians have a lawful right to use violence to resist the illegal occupation of Palestine, same with Lebanon and Syria.
Its Israel that is in the wrong.

There is no rationale in the world that justifies genocide, claiming 'they started' does not give you the right to commit genocide.
That leaves Israel in the select company of the handful of genocidal regimes, along with Rwanda and the nazis.


 

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In the context of that sentence, "you and I" is the only correct grammar.

Or are you claiming that "me agreed with you" is proper

Your own link says that you're wrong:
Traditional Distinction Between “You and I” vs. “You and Me”

In order to see what’s changed, we have to understand the traditional way of differentiating these two phrase according to the grammar books. One thing is certain: You and I is not the same thing as you and me (similar case as who and whom).
Example:
You and I like our new neighbours.
Our new neighbours like you and me.

The convention says that you and I serves as a subject, and functions much like the pronoun we. On the other hand, you come across the phrase you and me as an object, just like the pronoun us.


So when I said "we" (meaning the 2 of us) agreed it meant "you and I agreed" because we were both the subject, not the object. To be the object it would be in a sentence like "He agreed with you and me.".

You didn't understand what was said in the link that you posted, and I'm not sure you understand it yet. You should stop trying to argue grammar with me. You are out of your league. What level of education did you achieve?
Grammar nazi SShazi strikes again! You really shouldn't comment on anyone's education level, when you make mistakes that even a 3rd grader would avoid. You didn't even know "they" could be used to describe a singular person. You do realize no one cares but you. You are really an imbecile, aren't you?

Your making him excited. It's his favourite hobby.
Of course you thinks it's gooblygook. The only language you speak is Lies. The truth is foreign to you.
pronoun
pronoun: they
1.
used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned or easily identified.
"the two men could get life sentences if they are convicted"
people in general.
"the rest, as they say, is history"
informal
a group of people in authority regarded collectively.
"they cut my water off"
2.
used to refer to a person of unspecified gender.
"Ask someone if they could help"
used to refer to a person whose gender identity does not correspond to the traditional binary opposition of male and female.
"Asher thought they were the only nonbinary person at school until a couple of weeks ago"
 
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