So what should the US do about illegals committing crimes when they're not even supposed to be in the country?
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See once again when I did show you a 100% proof that the Republican individual himself stated it himself in that video, as usual you cannot accept the real facts, and all you do is to continue with your baseless allegations!!
Glad we agree.
It was fairly popular in 2016.
It wasn't popular in 2010 when it came in.
It climbed steadily over time, and even people who claim to be against it often support specific parts of it.
There are absolutely individual people who didn't like the change.
Overall it has been a success and is popular.
Name a single government plan that doesn't fit that description.
In a country of 330 million plus, it would be unheard of to have a plan where "everyone is/was happy with it".
Exactly.
And he went ahead and pushed them to repeal it anyway.
Because having a replacement wasn't the point - getting rid of it was.
And that's the other way to think about it, of course.
There was no need for a replacement because just removing all legislation and letting the market sort it out would be better.
Government shouldn't be involved.
Of course, the vast majority of people hated (and still hate) that idea, which was why there was so much lying about their being a replacement plan.
In the end, either Trump wanted it repealed because he just wanted to claim the win and didn't care what happened next, or he was ideologically driven to believe government shouldn't handle it and therefore repealing it without a replacement plan was the goal the whole time.
In the end, enough other people disagreed with "just pull it and let the chips fall where they may" that it didn't pass. (And possibly McCain voted against out of pure spite - difficult to tell.)
I know, in the MAGA world they claim they were dems.
In the real world they both backed rump and became disillusioned.
Both were white and likely mentally ill, perfect fodder for the stochastic terrorism that rump encourages.
I had to finally put skoob on ignore.See once again when I did show you a 100% proof that the Republican individual himself stated it himself in that video, as usual you cannot accept the real facts, and all you do is to continue with your baseless allegations!!
As a troll he's both boring and repetitive.
I post here to talk with people with attitudes I don't see in real life, but even here its getting too partisan to be able to discuss issues productively.
I agree they are a problem but not nearly as much as Trump lies they are so a more rational approach is needed
100+ GOP ex-national security officials endorse Harris: Trump 'betrayed our values' (msn.com)
"As president, (Trump) promoted daily chaos in government, praised our enemies and undermined our allies, politicized the military and disparaged our veterans, prioritized his personal interest above American interests and betrayed our values, democracy and this country’s founding documents."
you think democrats saying "Trump is a threat to democracy and should be eliminated" is rational? and who is Kamala doing a favor for opening the border, opening funds for undocumented immigrants first time home buyers? the Citizens?
democrats are putting the word out there until an unhinged individual picks up on it and tries something crazy.
Stop already
undocumented immigrants do not qualify as first time home buyers
Harris says Trump has to be stopped not emlinated , who says eliminated?
Trump encourages attacks on the capitol and police die then says he will pardon killers
Springfield closes schools because of bomb threats and Trump does nothing
Trumps rhetoric encourages violence not Harris
Trumps own rhetoric encourages unhinged individual to try to eliminate him
Trump screams put democrats in jail when he commites the crimes
Trump tries to steal elections and is trying to steal this one
Stop believing Trump
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Her answers are nothing except word salad. She has no policies, no answers, no solutions, nothing to offer that differentiates herself from Biden.
She's been a failure as the VP and is a complete imbecile.
She's been a failure as the VP and is a complete imbecile.
These are all playing out in your head...doesn't mean that's how it all happened...get over it.
That's the HLS , FBI, Secret Service and Kamala's job..not trump. He will do something when he gets elected again...
Your source has been proven to lie. I showed you the proof. You deflecting to something else is simply a distraction.See once again when I did show you a 100% proof that the Republican individual himself stated it himself in that video, as usual you cannot accept the real facts, and all you do is to continue with your baseless allegations!!
Accept it.
Trump calls Harris a communist and fascist and she has weaponized the justice system
Rants that evoke hatred and violence
Historians and experts rank Biden in the top third of all presidents with Trump at bottom
Trump and Vance spread an unsubstantiated Facebook post vilifying a visible minority group in a small town for something they KNEW (because someone on Vance's team tried to fact check it and found out it was nothing) about. Then, instead of walking it back, like a responisble adult, they basically double down. And, let's remember, Vance even said he made things up to get media attention...
THAT is why Trump is being blamed and called out for not doing anything. It's his smooth-brained followers who are terrorizing a small community.
Without trying to take a partisan shot on this, I would say this is a good question. What to do? The vast majority of folks are not doing anything illegal (as in stealing, murdering, rape, etc.) Most are working jobs the average American doesn't want to do, and sending money back to family in the home country, heck, they even pay taxes.
Now, Trump is all about rounding up 12 MILLION people, which is a logistical nightmare and would be incredibly expensive. And, I've read some reports that the US economy would be seriously hurt if all these migrants were turfed, since they frequently get paid lower wages....So, that would probably be inflationary...
I think the so-called dreamers should have a path to citizenship...But for the others....I don't know. Deport them when they are found, especially the ones doing criminal activity...
