The Great Debate

Who won the great debate?

  • Harris

    Votes: 77 78.6%
  • Trump

    Votes: 9 9.2%
  • Both were bad with no winner

    Votes: 10 10.2%
  • Both were good with no winner

    Votes: 2 2.0%

  • Total voters
    98

mitchell76

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Kudos to NABJ for being the first to ask Kamala Harris about her proximity to DNC pipe bombs on Jan 6. She interrupted to AGAIN misrepresent the facts of her movements. She rejected reporter’s accurate claim her vehicle went past the “bomb”—which happened at 11:25am—and instead said she was in the building. FBI said device was planted on Jan 5. Video and IG report demonstrate her detail came within 20 feet of bomb. WHY IS SHE LYING
 

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JUST IN: Ratings for David Muir’s “World News Tonight” TANKED following his disastrous debate moderating GOOD! Viewership for his nightly ABC Newscast dropped by almost ONE MILLION—12%— in the three days following the debate. The American people saw the media bias that night, and they’re FED UP. Now, Muir is on a damage control tour to defend his reputation. He’s feeling the heat!
 

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what has that got to do with Trump? Hamas leaders have 1 foot on the grave on a daily basis...High ranking Hezbollah official got injured by an exploding pager...
MAGA and rump have declared that its a badge of honour to have people wanting to assassinate their leader.
 
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silentkisser

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JUST IN: Ratings for David Muir’s “World News Tonight” TANKED following his disastrous debate moderating GOOD! Viewership for his nightly ABC Newscast dropped by almost ONE MILLION—12%— in the three days following the debate. The American people saw the media bias that night, and they’re FED UP. Now, Muir is on a damage control tour to defend his reputation. He’s feeling the heat!
I am not sure there is a correlation or causation to a drop in ratings for Muir....and the only disaster was for Donald J. Trump, who showed he couldn't answer a question without lying through his teeth or just spewing incoherent ramblings...

And it is interesting to see the Faux crowd get upset that they asked him real questions about crazy shit he did, like help spark an insurrection or race bait people. So, I think the only thing it showed was Trump does not have the mental capacity or temperament to be President, and he never did.
 
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MAGA and rump have declared that its a badge of honour to have people wanting to assassinate their leader.
Has trump commited genocide? What has trump done that you compare him to hitler? He got shot at twice, for running for POTUS?
 

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I've seen her speak enough times without a teleprompter to know that she'd be a deer in headlights in that debate had she not been given the questions beforehand.
Nonsense

She a career as a prosecuter tearing down witnesses without notes

It's all the more likely that she knew what questions were coming and had carefully prepared answers for them (written by her handlers). This also explains her near identical [non]answer to a similar question posed after the debate regarding her economic policies.
I agree she has memorized answers to questions, which is wise,
but total MAGA bull that she was fed questions

Such ungrounded accusations should be torn to shreds
by all the press regardless who says it but the press who supports Trump is fake news
 
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BREAKING: Rep. Jim Banks has obtained footage of US troops under fire in the Middle East just days after Kamala Harris claimed not a single troop was in a war zone. During the debate, Harris falsely claimed there were no active-duty troops deployed in war zones. "As of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone, in any war zone around the world, the first time this century," Harris claimed.
@Jim_Banks
says the footage below is attacks that have occurred "within the last couple of weeks/months."
 

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Has trump commited genocide? What has trump done that you compare him to hitler? He got shot at twice, for running for POTUS?
I'm just saying that being a target of assassination attempts by your own base isn't a sign that you are on some moral high road, rich.
 
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Has trump commited genocide? What has trump done that you compare him to hitler? He got shot at twice, for running for POTUS?

No problem.

Similarities between Hitler and Trump

1 Hitler told lies

2 He knew if he kept repeating them people would believe him

3 he knew the bigger the lie the more people believe

4 he wrapped himself in the flag

5 he created problems that did not exist then blamed other races
and internal oppostion parties while proclaiming himself as the only savior

6 they are both meglomaniacs and sociopaths

7 they are both lazy . Trump golfs forever and Hitler would rise at noon

8 they both feel ordained to lead

9 they both pretend to be stanch Christians to attract the gullible religious

Should I continue?
 
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No problem.

Similarities between Hitler and Trump

1 Hitler told lies

2 He knew if he kept repeating them people would believe him

3 he knew the bigger the lie the more people believe

4 he wrapped himself in the flag

5 he created problems that did not exist the blamed other races
and internal oppostion parties while proclaiming himself as the only savior

6 they are both meglomaniacs and sociopaths

7 they are both lazy . Trump golfs forever and Hitler would rise at noon

Should I continue?
Keep going...maybe we can arrive at dictator and genocidal maniac...
 
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Big Rig

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Keep going...maybe we can arrive at dictator and genocidal maniac...
OK

8 they both feel ordained to lead

9 they both pretend to be stanch Christians to attract the gullible religious

10 they both surround them selves with sycophants

11 they both want the most expensive luxuries

12 Trump has said he wants to be dictator and most cetainly is trying with his appointees

Should I continue?

Genocidal maniac is too extreme but he does blame hard working illegals for rape, drug dealing , gang crime etc when the evidence is the opposite as the facts are they create less crime then the average American and Trump uses them as a scapegoat so is not that sociopathic?
 
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richaceg

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Well, he already said he wants to be dictator and most cetainly is trying with his appointees

Genocidal maniac is too extreme but he does blame hard working illegals for rape, drug dealing , gang crime etc when the evidence is the opposite as the facts are they create less crime then the average American and Trump uses them as scapegoat so is not that sociopathic?
So what should the US do about illegals committing crimes when they're not even supposed to be in the country?
 

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When you use a source that has been proven to be lying more than it tells the truth, it shows how you fall for anything that confirms your bias.

That's what I was showing you. It appears you still don't get it.
See once again when I did show you a 100% proof that the Republican individual himself stated it himself in that video, as usual you cannot accept the real facts, and all you do is to continue with your baseless allegations!! :rolleyes:
 
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Valcazar

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Kamala is for more affordable housing too. That's greatt!
Glad we agree.

The ACA wasn't popular in 2016. It's gotten more popular.
It was fairly popular in 2016.
It wasn't popular in 2010 when it came in.
It climbed steadily over time, and even people who claim to be against it often support specific parts of it.

This is probably because a lot of people have just come to accept it and many of them aren't impacted by it directly. I know some self-employed people who don't like the program. They always had insurance, but now Obamacare dictates many aspects of their insurance.
There are absolutely individual people who didn't like the change.
Overall it has been a success and is popular.

I'm not saying the ACA is a bad program, but not everyone is/was happy with it.
Name a single government plan that doesn't fit that description.
In a country of 330 million plus, it would be unheard of to have a plan where "everyone is/was happy with it".

As far as Trump not having a replacement plan in place, I think practically speaking it came down to there was no consensus in Congress on how to replace it.
Exactly.
And he went ahead and pushed them to repeal it anyway.
Because having a replacement wasn't the point - getting rid of it was.

Unfortunately, our legislature is not designed to handle all the details of a large complex issue like healthcare.
And that's the other way to think about it, of course.
There was no need for a replacement because just removing all legislation and letting the market sort it out would be better.
Government shouldn't be involved.

Of course, the vast majority of people hated (and still hate) that idea, which was why there was so much lying about their being a replacement plan.

In the end, either Trump wanted it repealed because he just wanted to claim the win and didn't care what happened next, or he was ideologically driven to believe government shouldn't handle it and therefore repealing it without a replacement plan was the goal the whole time.

In the end, enough other people disagreed with "just pull it and let the chips fall where they may" that it didn't pass. (And possibly McCain voted against out of pure spite - difficult to tell.)
 
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