Doug Ford is screwing up Ontario

Skoob

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DoFo spent $1 billion to beer in corner stores.
He's willing to spend, just not on health care.
No previous Ontario government has spent more on healthcare than the current one despite getting under-funded by the feds compared to other provinces.
 

Frankfooter

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No previous Ontario government has spent more on healthcare than the current one despite getting under-funded by the feds compared to other provinces.
Stupid comment.
Ontario is the largest province, of course the total spent is the most.
Ontario spends the least per capita, per person, that is the point.

Maybe you really are at 4 year old levels of comprehension.
 

Skoob

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The CBC quoted that DoFo claim.
I'm asking for you to prove its a legit claim.
None of the communities wanted them and it was simply a Liberal government making haste to virtue signal about "green energy" without think things through.
Based on the crappy contracts established by the Liberals, it was a worthwhile strategy by the new PC government in Ontario in 2018. The savings claimed is based on cost avoidance for the future should those contracts have remained.

The contracts were crap and the issue was complicated.

You can find the details here:
https://energyregulationquarterly.c...wind-and-solar-contracts#sthash.7d1IxX9l.dpbs


And more about the cost savings...



"but the math is pretty simple. The unneeded power would have cost ratepayers $790 million. Not buying it produces a net saving of $559 million. It would have been foolish to pass up that opportunity.

It’s fair to say the government played down the cost of the cancellations and did its best to keep the figure secret. If the goal is to cancel contracts as cheaply as possible, it’s probably not wise to announce that you have a bag of money to dispense.

It’s a pity the $231 million will have to be spent, but it would not have been necessary had the previous government not signed a raft of wind and solar deals simply for green optics."

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ra...r-contracts-in-over-powered-ontario-heres-why
 

Skoob

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The realty is anyone that thinks dofo is doing a good job is biased or just plain dumb.
He's doing a great job not a good job and will win a 3rd majority next election. How would that happen if he wasn't doing a great job? Heck how did he win two majority elections up to now?

Seems to me the bias is coming from people who just don't like him regardless what he does. He could cure cancer and it wouldn't change those people's minds. Talk about bias indeed!
 

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How much did the coal and natural gas cost vs the cost from renewables in the contracts, skoob?
Holy f*ck all you do is ask questions and provide zero factual information in return.

I've provided info with facts & sources after you cried about me using the government info and you still want more while you provide nothing.

How about you start providing some factual info and stop assigning people homework because you're too lazy to do your own research?

Can you handle that? Or is your only source of info fake Xitter posts that result in you apologizing afterwards for spreading misinformation when you are called out?
 

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GameBoy27

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Metrolinx quoted $20 million years ago, now the plans include buying property, 4 bridges and sound walls. How many of those are really part of the rail path costs? How much more expensive is this now that Tory's Fast track plan has squeezed the space that was available? Why is this under Metrolinx?

Its stupidly expensive.


Yes, it is stupidly expensive. Another reason the city should take a hard look at expenditures. Is a $150 million 2 km bike path really at the top of the city's expenditures?
 

GameBoy27

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Imaginary claim?
It's from the CBC article I shared.

Disagree?
You should know by now that Frankfooter doesn't read any article that don't support his narrative. I'm not sure why we even bother pointing out facts to him. He'll just spew out the same old garbage. You could post a completely left wing article that refutes one of his claims, and he'll still tell you you're wrong. He should change his name from Frankfooter to Infalliblefooter...

BTW, if healthcare and everything else was so great in the province, why were the liberal kicked to the curb a couple elections ago?

Can't wait to see his head explode when we have a new Prime Minister. lol
 
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bver_hunter

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I would rather someone tell it like it is, than blow smoke up everyone's ass just so they can get away with screwing up the country while people are blissfully unaware.
Tell it like the far right have ingrained into your head. Nothing else of substance!!
 
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bver_hunter

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So your excuse is that I can't provide any links? Like I didn't do my own search before I commented?

If you are so confident, how about you do your own search that proves Wynne was the best and that DoFo was the worst?

btw I would rather a government that makes decisions and then reverses them than a government who just plows ahead in a tone-deaf arrogant manner and never reverses anything. Isn't that what government should do?
Did I say Wynn was the best at any time? All I said was that DOFO proving to be the worst. He does not have a proper education and was even an alleged street drug dealer!!
He really has come up with crap like a $1 beer. He has ballooned the deficit in spit of promising a surplus. We know that he comes up with hollow promises. Yet Healthcare lineups have got worse and worse under his watch.
 
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GameBoy27

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Tell it like the far right have ingrained into your head. Nothing else of substance!!
Bla bla bla... Not everyone who votes conservative are "far right." Just like not everyone who votes liberal is "far left". I have no problem calling out any politician when I feel they make stupid decisions. What bothers me is that some people are so left or so right that they they can't even acknowledge a good idea, unless it comes from their party. That's really sad. Can't see the forest for the trees.
 

GameBoy27

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Did I say Wynn was the best at any time? All I said was that DOFO proving to be the worst. He does not have a proper education and was even an alleged street drug dealer!!
He really has come up with crap like a $1 beer. He has ballooned the deficit in spit of promising a surplus. We know that he comes up with hollow promises. Yet Healthcare lineups have got worse and worse under his watch.
Healthcare lineups are greater? You mean after the the Feds opened up immigration. Ever think that might have have something to do with it? You are so shortsighted... It's amazing the McGuinty/Wynne Liberals didn't get re-elected. After all, they were doing such a great job. Or did I miss something?
 

bver_hunter

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Bla bla bla... Not everyone who votes conservative are "far right." Just like not everyone who votes liberal is "far left". I have no problem calling out any politician when I feel they make stupid decisions. What bothers me is that some people are so left or so right that they they can't even acknowledge a good idea, unless it comes from their party. That's really sad. Can't see the forest for the trees.
You caught the bull by the tail. Who said that everyone who votes Conservative is Far right? You took it out of context, as it was in one particular reference in response to what was previously stated!!

But the blah.. blah...blahing is coming from your end!!
 

bver_hunter

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Healthcare lineups are greater? You mean after the the Feds opened up immigration. Ever think that might have have something to do with it? You are so shortsighted... It's amazing the McGuinty/Wynne Liberals didn't get re-elected. After all, they were doing such a great job. Or did I miss something?
OIC now you are blaming the Feds. Remember that a lot of those immigrating to Canada have joined the Healthcare service as doctors, and nurses. It is the way that Ford treated these frontline workers during the Pandemic that caused a number of them to quit. Their pay and bonus etc was not reflecting the number of hours that they were dedicating to help the patients that were crowding the hospitals. You are the one that cannot think rationally in this respect. Why did Harper not get re-elected if he was doing a great job? Yes, you missed everything!!

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Frankfooter

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You should know by now that Frankfooter doesn't read any article that don't support his narrative. I'm not sure why we even bother pointing out facts to him. He'll just spew out the same old garbage. You could post a completely left wing article that refutes one of his claims, and he'll still tell you you're wrong. He should change his name from Frankfooter to Infalliblefooter...


Can't wait to see his head explode when we have a new Prime Minister. lol
Skoob posted a DoFo announcement that spending $230 million to cancel renewable contracts was really saving $700 million. It was in the article that he posted but he didn't read that the savings were from claimed sales in the future.


BTW, if healthcare and everything else was so great in the province, why were the liberal kicked to the curb a couple elections ago?
Healthcare is provincial, its one of the big reasons DoFo wants an election here before PeePee screws it up federally.
DoFo's latest is to cancel safe injection sites while there are 234,000 homeless people and the parks are filled with desperate people in tents.

 
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