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squeezer

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Yes, but Kamala never answers any questions from the press. Maybe Kamala is trying to run a literal "basement" campaign, like Joe did in 2020??
She did today just before boarding her plane. Trump is in trouble Mitchy, big trouble.

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WyattEarp

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But here's the problem. If you build your party and campaign around a celebrity candidate "being himself", the entire strategy is "Trump doing Trump".

He's got no real policy positions except vague horseshit about "Make America Great Again" and random insults about people he doesn't like. And it works with many people. I have a nephew-in-law whose downstate IL retired cop dad and mom LOVE Trump and wear Trump merch.
Here's the thing because you and another member today said he has no real policies. His detractors seem to bounce from he has no real policies to OMG Project 25 is going to take us back decades. I don't think they both can be true at the same time. Keenly listening to partisan rhetoric is a fun exercise in mental acuity.

If you said the Biden Administration has lots of policies. I would totally agree with you. They have lots and lots of policies. They have policies about things that even politically active people have never contemplated. Many here might see this in your own Trudeau Administration. They have a policy for every ill and every perceived ill affecting Canadians.

Now, we can't really have a reasonable discussion about a statement that Trump has no policies. It routinely devolves from mentioning his policies followed by non sequiturs criticizing the very policies that one initially claimed don't exist.



 

dirtydaveiii

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PRESIDENT TRUMP on KAMALA: The fact that you can get no votes, lose in the primary system, and you can then be picked to run for president seems to be unconstitutional.
That's going to be tampons don excuse when he loses again - rigged election because kamala shouldn't have been allowed to run. This guy is digging hinself in a hole to chiner. His attacks at kamala are not only insulting to minorities but all women.
 

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Here's the thing because you and another member today said he has no real policies. His detractors seem to bounce from he has no real policies to OMG Project 25 is going to take us back decades. I don't think they both can be true at the same time. Keenly listening to partisan rhetoric is a fun exercise in mental acuity.
I don't think he gives a shit about Project 25. If he is elected, he will probably go along with P 25 because many of his allies foster that imbecile, wacko pile of shit. But he DGAF. His policy is that he's amazing and he deserves to win.
If you said the Biden Administration has lots of policies. I would totally agree with you. They have lots and lots of policies. They have policies about things that even politically active people have never contemplated. Many here might see this in your own Trudeau Administration. They have a policy for every ill and every perceived ill affecting Canadians.
Not really, Earp. But you do you.
Now, we can't really have a reasonable discussion about a statement that Trump has no policies. It routinely devolves from mentioning his policies followed by non sequiturs criticizing the very policies that one initially claimed don't exist.
Have it your own way, Earp. If you need to end our dialogue on your own little bang, go ahead.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Why, they have never had to pay almost $1B for lying to their audience.

https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/1821642233571123578
Not for $1 billion, but they have been sued before for making false news reports

https://thenationaltriallawyers.org...after-275-million-lawsuit-with-nick-sandmann/

 
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squeezer

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Not for $1 billion, but they have been sued before for making false news reports

https://thenationaltriallawyers.org...after-275-million-lawsuit-with-nick-sandmann/

It's on appeal and a far cry from almost $1B and still more is coming for lying FOX FAKE NEWS as the other voting company which has yet to be settled.
 

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That's going to be tampons don excuse when he loses again - rigged election because kamala shouldn't have been allowed to run. This guy is digging hinself in a hole to chiner. His attacks at kamala are not only insulting to minorities but all women.
Degrading women and minorities are what drives a lot of his base, just saying...
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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It's on appeal and a far cry from almost $1B and still more is coming for lying FOX FAKE NEWS as the other voting company which has yet to be settled
Sandmann settlement is not on appeal. CNN paid that one out
 
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Valcazar

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Humphrey entered the race in April 1968. If you feel party insiders determining the nominee is the norm, that's fine. However, it's very well documented that the 1968 nomination process was reformed to give "Democratic" voters more direct determination of the nominee. Of course, it's not a popular vote process. We do know Kamala received zero votes in a Democratic primary.
Technically no one voted for Biden, either.
They voted for delegates who were obligated to vote for Biden if he didn't drop out.

Yes, 1968 provoked reform because people didn't like the system being all insiders.
But it is still convoluted and indirect. It's still a mish-mash of popular vote, votes from registered members, votes from insiders, and so on.

The perception of the primary process is very different from the reality. (Which is also true of the presidential vote as well.)

In my opinion, LBJ's decision to not run in March 1968 was a more honest and realistic reaction to the situation than what transpired this spring and early summer.

So no, not the same.
They are different in details, of course.

I do think that LBJ - who was very sick and had a weak heart - was already looking for a way not to run. The Vietnam negotiations gave him that option.
(The fact the polling was shit also played a role.)

So how it all got provoked and when is very different.

Yeah, so. Comparing today's process to the process fifty-six years ago is more than extraneous.
Not at all.
Delegates vote for the nominee, not people.
That's the same as it ever was.
 

Valcazar

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It would wise for the Republicans to select someone else... the ship is sinking and Trump will be the first one to escape and spend his time golfing in his pro league where he wins every tournaments.
I have no idea how that would go.

Assuming Trump decided to step down, I doubt very much he would do what Biden did and support a successor and help push for an orderly transfer of power.

One of the reasons the GOP hasn't been able to get rid of Trump is that they haven't been willing to all get behind one person to be the focus of the party and take the succession.

I suspect it would be utter chaos.

But to be fair, I had no faith the Democrats would be able to have a smooth transition, which is the main reason I opposed Biden dropping out.
I was totally wrong there, so who knows?
 

Valcazar

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Earp, isn't this the same obsession with irrelevant, self-serving minutiae as your 10-page argument that Trump wasn't judicially determined to be a sexual predator because he wasn't found guilty in a civil trial to the criminal standard?

No one really gives a fuck about whether KH would have been nominated back in 1968, do they? Except apparently for you.
I don't think that's fair.
Earp said this hadn't happened before and I drew the 1968 parallel.
Earp, not without reason, thinks the overall situation is too different for that to be a good comparison.

I don't even think he's particularly wrong, I think people view the primaries differently than before and the lateness of the withdrawal also changes the dynamic.
That said, I don't think mechanically it is all that different - it is mostly a question of perception.

(Which goes both ways. Humphrey's win was not viewed by the Democratic electorate at large the same way Harris's seems to be.)
 
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