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I found that confusion as well as honesty or lack thereof are evenly and generously spread between both categories.
Just as childhood traumas and history of sex abuse are. As one of my most mature SBs said: everybody had an uncle.
Thank you for that.

Some reader of this thread will be sent to a corporate management sensitivity training class.

He can volunteer while the female subordinate role plays the intern who comes to him about feeling sexually harassed mainly due to past trauma in her life.

And he can say, Well, sweetheart, every girl in the world had that uncle. Most of them moved on.
 
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newbie question here....but can someone walk me through the process of booking a data with a SB? Do you offer PPM right away and meet up like with an escort? or do you pick her up at her place -> dinner -> her place? or do you actually have to take her on shopping trips first lol?

My hesitation with SBs is that 1) I don't have my own car (never needed it in Toronto); and 2) don't know what to do with the ambivalence of what the cash is for? like what if she just takes off after dinner or it's 1SOG only.
 

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newbie question here....but can someone walk me through the process of booking a data with a SB? Do you offer PPM right away and meet up like with an escort? or do you pick her up at her place -> dinner -> her place? or do you actually have to take her on shopping trips first lol?

My hesitation with SBs is that 1) I don't have my own car (never needed it in Toronto); and 2) don't know what to do with the ambivalence of what the cash is for? like what if she just takes off after dinner or it's 1SOG only.
Hi there,

I'll walk you through how things work, at least from my experience.

Start with a few casual messages on SA (or whichever one you're using). Once you have a bit of rapport established, ask if she'd like to
move to Telegram/texting/etc. This way you can speak more candidly without being flagged by the site. Express to her that you're looking
for "intimacy" (this is code for having sex without sounding like a creep) or 'friends with benefits'. Most girls on these sites understand what's
up and know what you want. Avoid any girls who list 'platonic'. Ask her to send you a picture of something specific (like flashing the peace sign
or thumbs up) so you know that it's indeed the girl from the site and not a bot.

Some girls will be ok with coming right over to your place (or hotel) but most of the time you're going to have a 'meet and greet' where you grab
a drink or food at a bar. You won't be picking her up at her place as she is going to want to keep that part of her life separate. Pick a place close to your residence so if things go well you can just walk back or a quick Uber. Have some light chit chat and get to know each other. This is where you can offer the PPM if you haven't already talked about it. Acknowledge that it's an awkward conversation.
Say something like 'getting along well together is important to me, as well as physical intimacy'. Generally the girls know what's up. Pay for the food/drinks.

If she comes back to your place it's probably game on. There's no time limit here, so in terms of SOG it's just whatever the two of you want. The girls typically
don't want to feel like an escort so I usually just drop the envelope into her bag/purse while we're talking about something else. Make it feel natural and not weird.
Joke about it if you want. Treat her well.

Escorts are straight forward, but the sugaring world is much more nebulas, where the 2 people mostly make their own rules. It can be frustrating but if you
find a good situation it's way better than seeing SP's. Good luck!
 
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Hi there,

I'll walk you through how things work, at least from my experience.

Start with a few casual messages on SA (or whichever one you're using). Once you have a bit of rapport established, ask if she'd like to
move to Telegram/texting/etc. This way you can speak more candidly without being flagged by the site. Express to her that you're looking
for "intimacy" (this is code for having sex without sounding like a creep) or 'friends with benefits'. Most girls on these sites understand what's
up and know what you want. Avoid any girls who list 'platonic'. Ask her to send you a picture of something specific (like flashing the peace sign
or thumbs up) so you know that it's indeed the girl from the site and not a bot.

Some girls will be ok with coming right over to your place (or hotel) but most of the time you're going to have a 'meet and greet' where you grab
a drink or food at a bar. You won't be picking her up at her place as she is going to want to keep that part of her life separate. Pick a place close to your residence so if things go well you can just walk back or a quick Uber. Have some light chit chat and get to know each other. This is where you can offer the PPM if you haven't already talked about it. Acknowledge that it's an awkward conversation.
Say something like 'getting along well together is important to me, as well as physical intimacy'. Generally the girls know what's up. Pay for the food/drinks.

If she comes back to your place it's probably game on. There's no time limit here, so in terms of SOG it's just whatever the two of you want. The girls typically
don't want to feel like an escort so I usually just drop the envelope into her bag/purse while we're talking about something else. Make it feel natural and not weird.
Joke about it if you want. Treat her well.

Escorts are straight forward, but the sugaring world is much more nebulas, where the 2 people mostly make their own rules. It can be frustrating but if you
find a good situation it's way better than seeing SP's. Good luck!
This is a good guide, and pretty much the template that has worked for me too.

Also can't stress enough how important it is to be a gentleman, and do not treat her like an escort when you’re first communicating. Sounding like a horny jerk is the fastest way to end the conversation. If she’s attractive she will be getting a shit load of messages and you will stand out by being polite, and having an actual tailored opening note to her. “Hey baby wanna hook up?” is not gonna cut it.

I’ll also add that a second date for sex, not right to it after a drink, is also pretty common. Use the M&G to get the vibe of each other, agree on the details, and then set up a date for fun.
 
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ABDACOM

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Hi there,

I'll walk you through how things work, at least from my experience.

Start with a few casual messages on SA (or whichever one you're using). Once you have a bit of rapport established, ask if she'd like to
move to Telegram/texting/etc. This way you can speak more candidly without being flagged by the site. Express to her that you're looking
for "intimacy" (this is code for having sex without sounding like a creep) or 'friends with benefits'. Most girls on these sites understand what's
up and know what you want. Avoid any girls who list 'platonic'. Ask her to send you a picture of something specific (like flashing the peace sign
or thumbs up) so you know that it's indeed the girl from the site and not a bot.

Some girls will be ok with coming right over to your place (or hotel) but most of the time you're going to have a 'meet and greet' where you grab
a drink or food at a bar. You won't be picking her up at her place as she is going to want to keep that part of her life separate. Pick a place close to your residence so if things go well you can just walk back or a quick Uber. Have some light chit chat and get to know each other. This is where you can offer the PPM if you haven't already talked about it. Acknowledge that it's an awkward conversation.
Say something like 'getting along well together is important to me, as well as physical intimacy'. Generally the girls know what's up. Pay for the food/drinks.

If she comes back to your place it's probably game on. There's no time limit here, so in terms of SOG it's just whatever the two of you want. The girls typically
don't want to feel like an escort so I usually just drop the envelope into her bag/purse while we're talking about something else. Make it feel natural and not weird.
Joke about it if you want. Treat her well.

Escorts are straight forward, but the sugaring world is much more nebulas, where the 2 people mostly make their own rules. It can be frustrating but if you
find a good situation it's way better than seeing SP's. Good luck!
This is awesome
Thank you so much! Can I also ask, what does a typical opening message look like? I know it needs to be polite and stuff, but some time ago I tried everything from a simple hi, to interesting questions, to customized messages (always polite), and most of the time it would take either forever to hear back, were flaky, or unresponsive.

Also, any tips on how to build a good profile? Politeness aside, should it be similar to a real dating profile? How important is the networth/income section etc?
 

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This is awesome
Thank you so much! Can I also ask, what does a typical opening message look like? I know it needs to be polite and stuff, but some time ago I tried everything from a simple hi, to interesting questions, to customized messages (always polite), and most of the time it would take either forever to hear back, were flaky, or unresponsive.

Also, any tips on how to build a good profile? Politeness aside, should it be similar to a real dating profile? How important is the networth/income section etc?
Sure, no problem.

In my experience, keep the first message brief, something like: "Hi, Sara! I'm Jason. I see you like concerts; have you been to any shows this summer?"
Just something non-sexual to get the conversation started. Don't just write, "Hi". Make it personal to them. There will be some girls who just don't
respond and that's ok: new girls join the site everyday.

In terms of your profile, just make it similar to a dating profile. Keep it relatively brief, but list some of your interests. Indicate generosity and a desire to help
financially. Make sure your pictures aren't too "douchy"...just use regular pictures.

There are some girls on the site who will take a look at the net worth you listed and decide then and there whether to see you, but that's in the minority.
Most girls don't care so long as they get their financial help, you treat them well and you're well-groomed.

Just as an aside, don't get hung up on one girl. Set up a number of dates so if one flakes, it's no big deal. Don't assume these girls are going home with you
until they do (and some will, don't worry). You can usually get a sense of who are flakes and who will show up on time, ready to go.
 
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Sure, no problem.

In my experience, keep the first message brief, something like: "Hi, Sara! I'm Jason. I see you like concerts; have you been to any shows this summer?"
Just something non-sexual to get the conversation started. Don't just write, "Hi". Make it personal to them. There will be some girls who just don't
respond and that's ok: new girls join the site everyday.

In terms of your profile, just make it similar to a dating profile. Keep it relatively brief, but list some of your interests. Indicate generosity and a desire to help
financially. Make sure your pictures aren't too "douchy"...just use regular pictures.

There are some girls on the site who will take a look at the net worth you listed and decide then and there whether to see you, but that's in the minority.
Most girls don't care so long as they get their financial help, you treat them well and you're well-groomed.

Just as an aside, don't get hung up on one girl. Set up a number of dates so if one flakes, it's no big deal. Don't assume these girls are going home with you
until they do (and some will, don't worry). You can usually get a sense of who are flakes and who will show up on time, ready to go.
Thanks again. Best guide I've read on this board.
 

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Thanks again. Best guide I've read on this board.
No worries.

Just an additional thought: always do the meet and greet, even if she's just willing to come over.
You do want to make sure the 2 of you have a good rapport, and if she's someone you wouldn't
want in your home you'll get a good sense of that at the bar.
 

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I've been chatting with this girl on and off for a few weeks and she agrees to see me in a hotel (no meet and greet, just straight to the point). I figure the worst outcome for me is that I book a hotel and she either doesn't show or shows but is not the girl in the pictures but rather someone much less attractive, in both cases I end up wasting the hotel fee. But if she shows up and ends up being the same person in the pictures then good times are likely to be had. She wants to stay the night over but doesn't want me to stay with her (she's coming from another city so it makes sense she doesn't have to drive back, plus I can't stay the night even if I wanted). What is the worst that could happen? She'll trash the place and I get dinged for the damage?
 

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I've been chatting with this girl on and off for a few weeks and she agrees to see me in a hotel (no meet and greet, just straight to the point). I figure the worst outcome for me is that I book a hotel and she either doesn't show or shows but is not the girl in the pictures but rather someone much less attractive, in both cases I end up wasting the hotel fee. But if she shows up and ends up being the same person in the pictures then good times are likely to be had. She wants to stay the night over but doesn't want me to stay with her (she's coming from another city so it makes sense she doesn't have to drive back, plus I can't stay the night even if I wanted). What is the worst that could happen? She'll trash the place and I get dinged for the damage?
She is going to use it as incall for the sessions she is going to book in her escort persona, or for the other sugar daddy dates she has booked with guys in your area.
 

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I've been chatting with this girl on and off for a few weeks and she agrees to see me in a hotel (no meet and greet, just straight to the point). I figure the worst outcome for me is that I book a hotel and she either doesn't show or shows but is not the girl in the pictures but rather someone much less attractive, in both cases I end up wasting the hotel fee. But if she shows up and ends up being the same person in the pictures then good times are likely to be had. She wants to stay the night over but doesn't want me to stay with her (she's coming from another city so it makes sense she doesn't have to drive back, plus I can't stay the night even if I wanted). What is the worst that could happen? She'll trash the place and I get dinged for the damage?
The worst? she will ask you for cash upfront, then take the first opportunity and bolt. Yes, happened to me and it sucks. Never give up the cash until the end.
 
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She is going to use it as incall for the sessions she is going to book in her escort persona, or for the other sugar daddy dates she has booked with guys in your area.
Unlikely. I am going to be with her until late evening. Unless she can line up Johns after I leave and overnight? Possible but unlikely since I don't plan to tell her the hotel location until the day of.
 

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The worst, she will ask you for cash upfront, then she will take the first opportunity to bolt. Yes, happened to me and it sucks. Never give up the cash until the end.
Sorry to hear about your bad experience.

I never give cash upfront. Only hand cash out after the deed is done. I always tell them, first meeting is meet and greet for coffee/drinks with no money exchanged. Subsequent meetings are PPM if intimacy is realized. Some will ask for money during the first meet and greet but I refuse.
 

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Sorry to hear about your bad experience.

I never give cash upfront. Only hand cash out after the deed is done. I always tell them, first meeting is meet and greet for coffee/drinks with no money exchanged. Subsequent meetings are PPM if intimacy is realized. Some will ask for money during the first meet and greet but I refuse.
You do this for a while and 95% of the girls you date are amazing and you let your guard down. Then you meet a vampire.
 
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I've been chatting with this girl on and off for a few weeks and she agrees to see me in a hotel (no meet and greet, just straight to the point). I figure the worst outcome for me is that I book a hotel and she either doesn't show or shows but is not the girl in the pictures but rather someone much less attractive, in both cases I end up wasting the hotel fee. But if she shows up and ends up being the same person in the pictures then good times are likely to be had. She wants to stay the night over but doesn't want me to stay with her (she's coming from another city so it makes sense she doesn't have to drive back, plus I can't stay the night even if I wanted). What is the worst that could happen? She'll trash the place and I get dinged for the damage?
No chance I would leave my card open at a hotel. Tell her to use her card and give her the cost of the hotel in cash.

It's asking for trouble my man.

You could get dinged 1000s bud, don't do it.
 
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Unlikely. I am going to be with her until late evening. Unless she can line up Johns after I leave and overnight? Possible but unlikely since I don't plan to tell her the hotel location until the day of.
she can tell them to stand by until she know where. Bad move
Ever heard of the app Telegram?

IF she already has clients from past is not hard for her to do what is mentioned above.
 
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