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Sugar Dating Experience
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I've always found bartenders (and people in bars) are the best psychiatrists - unfortunately our healthcare system doesn't pick up bar tabs...YET!
I would generalize it even more. Sometimes it is much easier to speak to a total stranger who knows nothing about you. It's a clean slate.I've always found bartenders (and people in bars) are the best psychiatrists - unfortunately our healthcare system doesn't pick up bar tabs...YET!
I've just completed my 2nd "long term" arrangement from SA. First being 10 months and the last one was 8.
Few things I learned -
Girl1: You want genuine attraction. Best girls are the ones in their mid 20s at the end of their "slutty days". This girl seemed to admire me a lot, and by the time our arrangement ended, I could see a lot of improvement in how she selected friends, her thinking, etc. She was a bit on the pricey side. But 200% worth it. Responsible, never ghosted even once. We did just about everything (travel, events, mini-trips, dinners, coffees, sex was amazing). After we broke up she wanted a clean break, which is always nice. I've seen her once since and we both agreed not to re-engage. Experiences with this girl were really well balanced with sex/activities. I could write a book about the fun. Will be hard to replicate, but we'll see.
Girl2: This girl was in her early 20s. Also respectful, never ghosted, always presented herself very well. In terms of ppm this girl cost almost nothing. I'm not going to reveal what I paid her in ppm because, frankly, none of you will believe it. But like most arrangements, when the menial amt I was paying her stopped, shortly after the dates ceased as well. One thing about this girl is that the sex was something else entirely (from the first girl). We would go at it for over an hour I could see she really soaked up the experience each and every time.
Moving forward, not too sure if I'll do another one or not. I've done quite a bit of vanilla dating as well, and what I've observed is that the time + money you spend on finding a vanilla girlfriend is insane compared to the menial $ you pay in ppm to skip all of that bs. The price of a dinner for two + ubers, is pretty much what the ppm winds up costing.
As for SB vs. Escorts. I've found that the Escorts I've connected with are more mature than the SBs. They're more honest and they are fulfilling a goal or duty. Wheres the SBs - not just the long term ones, but all the ONS ones I fucked - were mostly confused and "figuring out life" and the money they collected from me went to pay for silly stuff like tuition, credit card payments, etc.
Few things I learned -
Girl1: You want genuine attraction. Best girls are the ones in their mid 20s at the end of their "slutty days". This girl seemed to admire me a lot, and by the time our arrangement ended, I could see a lot of improvement in how she selected friends, her thinking, etc. She was a bit on the pricey side. But 200% worth it. Responsible, never ghosted even once. We did just about everything (travel, events, mini-trips, dinners, coffees, sex was amazing). After we broke up she wanted a clean break, which is always nice. I've seen her once since and we both agreed not to re-engage. Experiences with this girl were really well balanced with sex/activities. I could write a book about the fun. Will be hard to replicate, but we'll see.
Girl2: This girl was in her early 20s. Also respectful, never ghosted, always presented herself very well. In terms of ppm this girl cost almost nothing. I'm not going to reveal what I paid her in ppm because, frankly, none of you will believe it. But like most arrangements, when the menial amt I was paying her stopped, shortly after the dates ceased as well. One thing about this girl is that the sex was something else entirely (from the first girl). We would go at it for over an hour I could see she really soaked up the experience each and every time.
Moving forward, not too sure if I'll do another one or not. I've done quite a bit of vanilla dating as well, and what I've observed is that the time + money you spend on finding a vanilla girlfriend is insane compared to the menial $ you pay in ppm to skip all of that bs. The price of a dinner for two + ubers, is pretty much what the ppm winds up costing.
As for SB vs. Escorts. I've found that the Escorts I've connected with are more mature than the SBs. They're more honest and they are fulfilling a goal or duty. Wheres the SBs - not just the long term ones, but all the ONS ones I fucked - were mostly confused and "figuring out life" and the money they collected from me went to pay for silly stuff like tuition, credit card payments, etc.
Tuition ain’t silly.
I found that confusion as well as honesty or lack thereof are evenly and generously spread between both categories.
Just as childhood traumas and history of sex abuse are. As one of my most mature SBs said: everybody had an uncle.
It is if you don't graduate.Tuition ain’t silly.
A lot of these girls go to school and then find out they can just bar-hop to another country and do another degree, or even just stick around and do another degree on top of the previous in the same city, because after all, "bills are paid by my SD". Girl1 was moving toward this, actually. And even Girl2 was working full time and getting her ppm... and she lived at home. There was plenty of money to go around.
Or if you graduate with a useless liberal arts degree which so many of them seem to do
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I usually tell them that I know a great site for platonic called Christian Mingle
Thank you for that.
Some reader of this thread will be sent to a corporate management sensitivity training class.
He can volunteer while the female subordinate role plays the intern who comes to him about feeling sexually harassed mainly due to past trauma in her life.
And he can say, Well, sweetheart, every girl in the world had that uncle. Most of them moved on.
I have found hookups on Christian Mingle as well. However, she did make me wear my priest robe.
You should have told "her" she doesn't deserve to clean your air ducts
(some people will get this joke)
newbie question here....but can someone walk me through the process of booking a data with a SB? Do you offer PPM right away and meet up like with an escort? or do you pick her up at her place -> dinner -> her place? or do you actually have to take her on shopping trips first lol?
My hesitation with SBs is that 1) I don't have my own car (never needed it in Toronto); and 2) don't know what to do with the ambivalence of what the cash is for? like what if she just takes off after dinner or it's 1SOG only.
My hesitation with SBs is that 1) I don't have my own car (never needed it in Toronto); and 2) don't know what to do with the ambivalence of what the cash is for? like what if she just takes off after dinner or it's 1SOG only.
Hi there,
I'll walk you through how things work, at least from my experience.
Start with a few casual messages on SA (or whichever one you're using). Once you have a bit of rapport established, ask if she'd like to
move to Telegram/texting/etc. This way you can speak more candidly without being flagged by the site. Express to her that you're looking
for "intimacy" (this is code for having sex without sounding like a creep) or 'friends with benefits'. Most girls on these sites understand what's
up and know what you want. Avoid any girls who list 'platonic'. Ask her to send you a picture of something specific (like flashing the peace sign
or thumbs up) so you know that it's indeed the girl from the site and not a bot.
Some girls will be ok with coming right over to your place (or hotel) but most of the time you're going to have a 'meet and greet' where you grab
a drink or food at a bar. You won't be picking her up at her place as she is going to want to keep that part of her life separate. Pick a place close to your residence so if things go well you can just walk back or a quick Uber. Have some light chit chat and get to know each other. This is where you can offer the PPM if you haven't already talked about it. Acknowledge that it's an awkward conversation.
Say something like 'getting along well together is important to me, as well as physical intimacy'. Generally the girls know what's up. Pay for the food/drinks.
If she comes back to your place it's probably game on. There's no time limit here, so in terms of SOG it's just whatever the two of you want. The girls typically
don't want to feel like an escort so I usually just drop the envelope into her bag/purse while we're talking about something else. Make it feel natural and not weird.
Joke about it if you want. Treat her well.
Escorts are straight forward, but the sugaring world is much more nebulas, where the 2 people mostly make their own rules. It can be frustrating but if you
find a good situation it's way better than seeing SP's. Good luck!
