Global rights group finds Hamas-led militants committed war crimes on Oct. 7

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The only thing that needs enforcing is international law and basic human rights, basketcase.
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Yet you refuse to think that should apply to Hamas.

And speaking of basic human rights, you said in a couple threads you don't even think Palestinians should have a say in any of this.


I listen to the opinions of the UN, ICC, ICJ, Amnesty, Lancet, HRW, B'tselem and others.
Except when they criticize Hamas or any other Palestinian extremist groups.
 

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"The death toll of 186,000 mentioned in The Lancet is consistent with the health, military and geopolitical situation due to the sea, air and land blockade imposed on the Gaza Strip," says Jean-François Corty, a humanitarian doctor and president of the NGO Doctors of the World. "This estimate is a true reflection of the absolute tragedy being experienced on the ground by the population."

"I have been saying as recently as November/December that the figures being put forward are underestimated in relation to reality, in a context where there is a lot of propaganda surrounding the death toll, as is the case in many conflicts and not exclusively in Gaza. Since the beginning of the controversy over the Hamas Ministry of Health's figures, which are probably wrong, I have said that they are probably wrong, but because they are underestimated."
Thanks for making my point. This is not somebody from the Lancet. This not somebody who was officially designated to speak on behalf of the Lancet. You have yet to find anybody speaking as a representative of the Lancet confirming anything in that "letter" to the Lancet. Those numbers are just made up just the same as the headline you fabricating saying that Israel was responsible for all those deaths. Even the authors don't say that Israel is solely responsible.

You are unable to refute that it's reasonable to claim that close to 5,000 Israeli citizens were slaughtered by Hamas on Oct.7. It's totally reasonable using the proper methodology.
 
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Yet you refuse to think that should apply to Hamas.
And speaking of basic human rights, you said in a couple threads you don't even think Palestinians should have a say in any of this
Except when they criticize Hamas or any other Palestinian extremist groups.
Bullshit, why do you post such obvious hasbara troll crap?
Every day I say hold both sides to the law equally and every day you say 'you refuse to say that applies to Hamas'.
That's really stupid.
Moronic.

You clearly think Israel has no need to abide by international and is free to illegally occupy Palestine, rule through apartheid and commit genocide.
Then you turn around and claim you support human rights and the law.
Moronic.

 
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Thanks for making my point. This is not somebody from the Lancet. This not somebody who was officially designated to speak on behalf of the Lancet. You have yet to find anybody speaking as a representative of the Lancet confirming anything in that "letter" to the Lancet. Those numbers are just made up just the same as the headline you fabricating saying that Israel was responsible for all those deaths. Even the authors don't say that Israel is solely responsible.

You are unable to refute that it's reasonable to claim that close to 5,000 Israeli citizens were slaughtered by Hamas on Oct.7. It's totally reasonable using the proper methodology.
Moronic post, Shazi.
The Lancet doesn't write pieces, they review and publish good work.

 
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Moronic post, Shazi.
The Lancet doesn't write pieces, they review and publish good work.
Which they did not do here. There is NO REVIEW. You should stop lying.

Of the supposed 40,000 dead, half are Hamas fighters, =20,000. You claim that there is no army and no soldiers. So they list them with the civilians
 

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Which they did not do here. There is NO REVIEW. You should stop lying.

Of the supposed 40,000 dead, half are Hamas fighters, =20,000. You claim that there is no army and no soldiers. So they list them with the civilians
You're bullshitting, that's an IDF claim.
70% of the dead are women and children and if 20,000 Hamas were dead that would be all of them, since they were said to be only 20,000 strong on Oct 7.

Your most moral army arrested 9 IDF for raping a prisoner nearly to death. So of course the IDF and Israelis rioted as they think raping Palestinians to death is the moral thing to do.

Same as you.


 

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It's 'Hasbra crap' to think Palestinians can be culpable for their actions? Just more of your elitist anti-arab racism.
Palestinians aren't responsible for the 75 year occupation of Palestine, apartheid or genocide.
That's on zionists and zionist defenders.

Its time to end zionist terrorism and genocide.


 

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You're bullshitting, that's an IDF claim.
40,000 dead civilians is a Hamas claim. You yourself, has admitted that no outside entity has been able to enter the territory to verify their claims.
70% of the dead are women and children and if 20,000 Hamas were dead that would be all of them, since they were said to be only 20,000 strong on Oct 7.
According to whom? There were many more.

At least you don't dispute that the dead Hamas fighters were included among the dead civilians. We agree then that the number of dead civilians is vastly inflated.
 

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Palestinians aren't responsible for the 75 year occupation of Palestine,
The Arab leaders who refused to accept the land offered to them are.
 

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40,000 dead civilians is a Hamas claim. You yourself, has admitted that no outside entity has been able to enter the territory to verify their claims.
According to whom? There were many more.

At least you don't dispute that the dead Hamas fighters were included among the dead civilians. We agree then that the number of dead civilians is vastly inflated.
That's why we should go with the Lancet claim, its the only 3rd party claim that comes from an internationally trusted source of medical research.
186,000 dead.

The IDF knows shit, they only kill people, they don't count the dead.

You can choose to be like the Germans in WWII who claimed nothing was going on if you want, but we know its a conscious choice since you are given direct evidence here daily. You are choosing to pretend nothing is going because you truly do support this genocide.

The IDF is now claiming raping Palestinians to near death is acting in self defence.
 

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Palestinians aren't responsible for the 75 year occupation of Palestine, apartheid or genocide.
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And back to claiming Israel is 'occupied'. Puts to lie your claims not to want Israel gone.

And yes, Palestinian and Arab leadership are partly to blame as they have obsessively rejected any possibility of peace with Israel existing. I know you think it impossible that brown people can make their own choices but that's a you problem.
 

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And back to claiming Israel is 'occupied'. Puts to lie your claims not to want Israel gone.

And yes, Palestinian and Arab leadership are partly to blame as they have obsessively rejected any possibility of peace with Israel existing. I know you think it impossible that brown people can make their own choices but that's a you problem.
Please post a map of where you think the borders of Israel lie.
You can't have a country if you can't say where it is.
 

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Please post a map of where you think the borders of Israel lie.
You can't have a country if you can't say where it is.
According to the UN, the Green Line should serve as the basis for a negotiated two State peace.

But by repeatedly claiming 70 years, you obviously consider all of Israel to be occupied Palestinian territory despite all your pretense of supporting equal rights..
 

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So he is still lying about how those numbers are a Lancet claim. Even though it has been explained complete with a link to lancet and their own words that it isn't.

Holocaust denier tactics they is. Very Trumpian.
 

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So he is still lying about how those numbers are a Lancet claim. Even though it has been explained complete with a link to lancet and their own words that it isn't.

Holocaust denier tactics they is. Very Trumpian.
I haven't lied, ND, you have.
You've been trying to say you can't trust the UN, the Lancet, WHO, Amnesty or pretty much anyone except the IDF.

168,000 Palestinians killed by Israel may be conservative.

 
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According to the UN, the Green Line should serve as the basis for a negotiated two State peace.

But by repeatedly claiming 70 years, you obviously consider all of Israel to be occupied Palestinian territory despite all your pretense of supporting equal rights..
That includes Gaza.
If you back the two state solution and international law you must call for Israel to abide by the ICJ ruling and leave all of occupied Palestine.
Including Gaza.

Instead, you're here defending genocide and the ongoing colonization of Palestine.
 
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That includes Gaza.
If you back the two state solution and international law you must call for Israel to abide by the ICJ ruling and leave all of occupied Palestine.
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As the UN has repeatedly stated, the only way forward is a negotiated peace. Your continued claim that all of Israel is occupied is a losing argument and only promoted by people who want all Jews ethnically cleansed.
 

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As the UN has repeatedly stated, the only way forward is a negotiated peace. Your continued claim that all of Israel is occupied is a losing argument and only promoted by people who want all Jews ethnically cleansed.
Cult narrative
 

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As the UN has repeatedly stated, the only way forward is a negotiated peace. Your continued claim that all of Israel is occupied is a losing argument and only promoted by people who want all Jews ethnically cleansed.
Not any more.

Zionists kill negotiators, as they just did in Iran.
There is no point talking with them.

Its time for the world to enforce the UNSC, UN, ICC and ICJ decisions.
Its time to end the racist hate that is zionism.

 
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