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basketcase

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Not any more.
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Really? You think the UN no longer thinks a negotiated two state peace is the only way forward? I'm sure you can show me where that was revoked.

Of course you can't. Even when you praise the ICJ for their NON-BINDING ADVISORY opinion backing a Two State peace, you still demand Palestinians accept an one egalitarian state against their will.

Its time for the world to enforce the UNSC, UN, ICC and ICJ decisions.
Like demanding Hamas immediately and unconditionally release their hostages?
 

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Its in the ruling:
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That is fucking stupid of you. The ruling is 100% in support of Two States. It does not say Israel is occupied Palestinian land they way you continually do but is explicitly about the West Bank and Gaza.

UN: "West Bank and Gaza should be a Palestinian state"
Frank: "the UN says there should be a One State peace.
 

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That is fucking stupid of you. The ruling is 100% in support of Two States. It does not say Israel is occupied Palestinian land they way you continually do but is explicitly about the West Bank and Gaza.

UN: "West Bank and Gaza should be a Palestinian state"
Frank: "the UN says there should be a One State peace.
So if you back the two state solution this ruling is the only thing that will get you there.
Its time for you to walk the talk and say you support the two state solution and the ICJ ruling that the settlements are illegal.
Only if you start there does the two state solution have a chance.

Are you backing the two state solution or are you acting the hasbara troll again?
 

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So if you back the two state solution this ruling is the only thing that will get you there.
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According to the UN, the only thing that will get a peace is negotiations. You and Hamas continually rejecting the presence of Jews and calling all of Israeli 'occupied Palestinian land" and resorting to violence achieves nothing but harm to everyone except Sinwar's bank accounts).

And I've never doubted that most settlements are illegal (possibly excluding ones that were Jewish property until the Jordanian army ethnically cleansed them).


BTW. does this mean you support a Two State peace finally or are you still demanding that Palestinians be forced into becoming Israeli?
 

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According to the UN, the only thing that will get a peace is negotiations. You and Hamas continually rejecting the presence of Jews and calling all of Israeli 'occupied Palestinian land" and resorting to violence achieves nothing but harm to everyone except Sinwar's bank accounts).

And I've never doubted that most settlements are illegal (possibly excluding ones that were Jewish property until the Jordanian army ethnically cleansed them).


BTW. does this mean you support a Two State peace finally or are you still demanding that Palestinians be forced into becoming Israeli?
That was before the genocide and ICJ rulings, basketcase. That ships sailed.
Now, if you really supported the ICJ ruling you'd be cheering and declaring that all Israel needs to do to implement the two state solution is abide by the ICJ ruling and international law, by leaving Palestine and paying restitution.

Instead, you're hear like a rapist declaring they get to 'negotiate' their prison term. You're here like a rapist declaring that its mean to rapists to say they can't live with their victims and visit in the middle of the night whenever they want.

You don't back the two state solution, you back settler colonial land theft based on your racial supremacist views that have you defending killing children the genocide of Palestinians.

 

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That is fucking stupid of you. The ruling is 100% in support of Two States. It does not say Israel is occupied Palestinian land they way you continually do but is explicitly about the West Bank and Gaza.

UN: "West Bank and Gaza should be a Palestinian state"
Frank: "the UN says there should be a One State peace.
The ICJ ruling says Israel is occupying Palestine and must leave and pay restitutions.
My view, is that if zionists like you refuse to abide by the ICJ ruling they should deal with the one state solution along with allowing all Palestinian refugees to return.

Enjoy your democracy as minority, basketcase.
You gonna choose that or you gonna finally back the law and declare Israel should abide by the ICJ and leave Palestine?

 

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That was before the genocide and ICJ rulings, basketcase. That ships sailed.
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So once again you say that the UN is wrong. Despite your desire to see Palestinians subjugated and forced into becoming Israelis, the UN (or the ICJ) and the Palestinians see that as an impossibility. You've been endlessly calling the Jewish presence illegitimate, calling all of Israel 'occupied Palestinian land', and demanding Palestine from the river to the sea. You should just bite the bullet and admit you want only a Palestinian state; Klatu would appreciate it.

And is it worth pointing out that you've been denying the possibility of a Two State peace for well over a decade so it's laughable when you try to criticize me about it.
 

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And how does their advisory opinion mean they require the One State peace you want imposed on Palestinians?
Why do you think I argue for imposing anything on Palestinians?
I support BDS and Palestinian legal actions at the ICJ, UN and ICC.

This is your chance to prove you back the two state solution by agreeing that Israel should end the occupation of Palestine and allow the two state solution to happen. I would argue that if it doesn't happen then the campaign for equal rights, the vote and the return of Palestinian refugees under Israeli rule should be the goal.

You are deathly afraid of both of those options so instead back more apartheid and genocide.

 

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So once again you say that the UN is wrong. Despite your desire to see Palestinians subjugated and forced into becoming Israelis, the UN (or the ICJ) and the Palestinians see that as an impossibility. You've been endlessly calling the Jewish presence illegitimate, calling all of Israel 'occupied Palestinian land', and demanding Palestine from the river to the sea. You should just bite the bullet and admit you want only a Palestinian state; Klatu would appreciate it.

And is it worth pointing out that you've been denying the possibility of a Two State peace for well over a decade so it's laughable when you try to criticize me about it.
Now you're against the two state solution.
Are against respecting international law and the ICJ rulings.
Are against giving Palestinians equal rights.
And are against ending the illegal occupation, apartheid and genocide.

The ICJ ruling gave you a direct platform to the peace plan you've declared you've backed here for years.
Now that there is a way forward you are against it and just defend genocide instead.

Racial supremacists are all the same.

 

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You still acting like a moron instead of actually trying to deny anything I posted?
Why are you now against the two state solution?
The ICJ ruling is the perfect framework.
All you need to do is back it and support the ruling being enacted and you could work towards this two state solution you claimed to back.

But you never backed the two state solution, did you?
You too busy protesting for the right to anally rape Palestinians to death too?

 

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You mean other than you endlessly demanding Israel enforce a One State peace even though very few Palestinians want it?
Only because zionists like you are so agains the two state solution.
The apartheid one state solution is already in place unless you declare you back the ICJ ruling.

But you won't.

Too busy cheering on human shields, now, aren't you?
 

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Only because zionists like you are so agains the two state solution.
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Your repeated lies are fucking stupid. But what can we expect from someone who posted blaming American Jews for assassinating JFK.


And thanks for admitting you want Palestinians forced into a One State peace they detest. Good thing there are racist elitist like you to tell non-whites what to do :rolleyes: .
 

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Your repeated lies are fucking stupid.
You hate the two state solution even more than the one state solution.
You just want Israel to take all of Palestine and don't care how many Palestinians they kill to do so.

In 300 days you have not once said the occupation is wrong, apartheid is wrong, taking Palestinian land is wrong, killing children is wrong, starving 2 million people is wrong, not once.

All you do here is try to blame the 75 year occupation and ongoing genocide on Hamas.

Clearly you back killing children to steal their land, not once have you called out Israel or said its wrong to do so.

 

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You hate the two state solution even more than the one state solution.
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Your claims have become moronic over the past year; as I said, a sure sign of decomposition.

I have ALWAYS argued for a negotiated two State peace as the best solution, just like Canada and the UN. You on the other hand want Palestinians forced into a One State peace they detest, regardless of what they want. I have no problem with the idea of an egalitarian One State peace but unlike you, I pay attention when Palestinians (and Israelis) say they hate the idea.

Your continual dismissal of Palestinian agency shows quite clearly that your view has nothing to do with supporting Palestinians but simply pushing anything you think will harm Israel. This is even more evident with the way you obsessively try to deny the legitimacy of jews in the region.
 
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