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Keep bullshitting Geno.

They already released the results of that investigation 3 days ago.
Hamas and other groups committed war crimes on 7 October - HRW (bbc.com)


You say they are trustworthy, then you agree when they say:
Hamas and at least four other Palestinian armed groups committed numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity against civilians during the 7 October attack on southern Israel, the campaign group Human Rights Watch says.

A new report accuses the hundreds of gunmen who breached the Gaza border fence of violations including deliberate and indiscriminate attacks on civilians, wilful killing of persons in custody, sexual and gender-based violence, hostage-taking, mutilation of bodies and looting.


It also found the killing of civilians and hostage-taking were “central aims of the planned attack” and not an “afterthought”.
Yup, HRW reported Israeli claims and said investigate and take them to trial.
Same they said for Israel.

I'm glad to hear you trust HRW and think that investigations and charges should result from their reports on Israel and Hamas.
For once we agree.

(and congrats on figuring out to do large, blue fonts, next up, set the clock on your vcr)

 

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Says the guy who calls Gazans and Palestinians "lesser humans." You make yourself look more and more ridiculous everyday. From January of this year:
I was talking about people who call themselves 'chosen people'. I didn't mention Palestinians, that was you jumping to your supremacist conclusions and confirming what I said about zionists is accurate. You read 'lesser humans' and immediately you thought Palestinians. Dead giveaway, Shazi.



Idiotic. As if that will save even one Gazan life? BTW, are you talking about Olympics where the PLO kidnapped innocent Israeli athletes and savagely killed them in cold blood? For that reason alone, Israel will never be banned from the Olympics.

If you actually gave an iota of care for the Gazans, you'd call for a Hamas surrender. It's inevitable they'll be destroyed because not a single country is providing any troops to help Hamas and their shrinking army while more Gazans die as you wait 10 years for your boycotts. And the UN will not send in the military either while the ICJ rulings are not binding.

You continue to cheer for Hamas' incestuous genocide of their own people. This is the worst crime in history. Hamas have a hand in every single death that's occured in Gaza. Seeing as the authors of that opinion letter to the editor of Lancet did not attribute blame to Israel, it must be Hamas. 😁
BDS, Shazi.
Sanctions will end zionism without killing people.
I know you only think in terms of killing people and blowing things up, but that's not where real strength lies.

All that terrorist nation can do is start wars and kill people.

 
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I was talking about people who call themselves 'chosen people'. I didn't mention Palestinians, that was you jumping to your supremacist conclusions and confirming what I said about zionists is accurate. You read 'lesser humans' and immediately you thought Palestinians. Dead giveaway, Shazi.
The Jews are known as the chosen people. You have said that all Jews in Israel are Zionists and you hate all Zionists. We were talking about the war in Gaza and you incessantly refer to it as genocide. It is laughable for you to try to deny that you were referring to the Gazans being slaughtered (in your words) by the IDF/Israelis/Jews/Zionists/Chosen people. They are all one and the same to you.

You clearly referred to the Gazans as being lesser humans being slaughtered by Israel and there is no other interpretation. So for you to say " The racial supremacist again calls a critic 'subhuman'" is rich. You need to keep better track of your lies and insults, Geno. You're like a dog chasing its' tail.

You called Gazans "lesser humans", not I. Deny as much as you want, but everyone can see it in black and white. You can't weasel around it.

BDS, Shazi.
Sanctions will end zionism without killing people.
BDS has being going on for at least 5 years. How long are you willing to wait for them to work? In 9 months 38,000 dead. 3 more years is another 150,000 and you are evidently cool with that.

This is proof that you don't care how many die. A Hamas surrender and release of hostages stops the war immediately. Instead, you are literally saying that you want more and more Gazans to die. Demonizing Israel is more important to you Gazan lives.
I know you only think in terms of killing people and blowing things up, but that's not where real strength lies.

All that terrorist nation can do is start wars and kill people.
All the Palestinians can do is use terror/violence as their number one export. Nobody wants them because they spread terror wherever they go. Not Jordan, not Egypt, not Yemen, not the Saudis, not UAE, not Qatar etc. Palestinians are the terrorists with no nation because they were too full of hate and violence to accept enough land to give them their own state in 1948.
 

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The Jews are known as the chosen people.
Nah, pretty much every religious wacko from every religion thinks they are the chosen people. How else you gonna talk people into that ponzi scheme of jehova's witnesses needing sales to buy one of the limited thousands of seats in the afterlife?

You have said that all Jews in Israel are Zionists and you hate all Zionists.
Nope, I have never said that. Not once. Total hasbara troll lie that you repeat. Its a lie. Stop it. Its stupid.

We were talking about the war in Gaza and you incessantly refer to it as genocide.
Its a genocide, not a war. The ICJ ruling states that Israel is the occupying power and you cannot declare war against people you are already occupying. The UN has also repeatedly stated its a genocide. So stop the lying. Stick to the legal definitions and internationally recognized views.

It is laughable for you to try to deny that you were referring to the Gazans being slaughtered (in your words) by the IDF/Israelis/Jews/Zionists/Chosen people. They are all one and the same to you.
No, I was making a sarcastic comment on how totally fucked up religious extremists are and you just proved you are a religious extremist by taking it as fact and instantly deciding that any reference to 'lesser humans' must be the people you are backing exterminating.


You clearly referred to the Gazans as being lesser humans being slaughtered by Israel and there is no other interpretation. So for you to say " The racial supremacist again calls a critic 'subhuman'" is rich. You need to keep better track of your lies and insults, Geno. You're like a dog chasing its' tail.
Nope, we've been over this repeatedly. I didn't refer to either zionists or Palestinians in that comment, just religious extremists who think they are the 'chosen people'. Being a religious extremist you just instantly jumped in and though it only applies to you, as all religious extremists don't recognize that all other religious extremists also think they are the 'chosen people'.

You called Gazans "lesser humans", not I. Deny as much as you want, but everyone can see it in black and white. You can't weasel around it.
No, I made no reference to Palestinians. There is no such thing as 'Gazans', they are Palestinians, by the way.

BDS has being going on for at least 5 years. How long are you willing to wait for them to work? In 9 months 38,000 dead. 3 more years is another 150,000 and you are evidently cool with that.
It took decades to end South African apartheid.
We are there now with zionism, it will end soon.
zionists are hated globally and recognized as racial supremacists committing genocide, a description they share with nazis.


This is proof that you don't care how many die. A Hamas surrender and release of hostages stops the war immediately. Instead, you are literally saying that you want more and more Gazans to die. Demonizing Israel is more important to you Gazan lives.
I know you only think in terms of killing people and blowing things up, but that's not where real strength lies.
Idiotic lack of reasoning, Shazi. Netanayahu is the one stopping the return of the hostages, as you well know. That is why there are mass protests today against him in Israel. Ceasefire is the only way to get the hostages back and end the killing, on both sides, not to mention abiding by UNSC resolutions and the ICJ rulings.

All the Palestinians can do is use terror/violence as their number one export. Nobody wants them because they spread terror wherever they go. Not Jordan, not Egypt, not Yemen, not the Saudis, not UAE, not Qatar etc. Palestinians are the terrorists with no nation because they were too full of hate and violence to accept enough land to give them their own state in 1948.
Hate speech, Shazi.
You sound a nazi describing Jews in 1945.
Cut it out.
 

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By posting 6 different links to news stories about the one report do you think it makes it look more important than other HRW reports?
I could list dozens of HRW reports that you now must also accept, if you are arguing that HRW is trustworthy.

Lets start with this one, a 3 year old report now backed up by the latest ICJ decisions calling Israel apartheid and the occupation illegal.

But please take that report to the ICJ where they will look at it and perhaps issue a ruling, as they will over charges of genocide and as they just did for the occupation. This is what carries the real legal weight internationally, with all states bound to honour these findings.

 

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Shazi…..you should be on your hands and knees begging forgiveness from Frankfooter. The ICJ confirmed every assertion he made regarding POS Nations conduct. You, squealed like a little pig that he was wrong and it would never happen. It did and in spades.

Apologize to him. Maybe you will finally regain some dignity.
 
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Nah, pretty much every religious wacko from every religion thinks they are the chosen people. How else you gonna talk people into that ponzi scheme of jehova's witnesses needing sales to buy one of the limited thousands of seats in the afterlife?Nope, I have never said that.Not once.
I don't know if you said it but that is certainly what you wrote. You screwed yourself because your rhetoric is so radical and hate-filled it oozes out of your pores.You can't control yourself
hasbara troll lie that you repeat. Its a lie. Stop it. Its
Temper, temper, dear.
a genocide, not a war. The ICJ ruling states that Israel is the occupying power and you cannot declare war against people you are already occupying. The UN has also repeatedly stated its a genocide. So stop the lying. Stick to the legal definitions and internationally recognized views.No, I was making a sarcastic comment on how totally fucked up religious extremists are and you just proved you are a religious extremist by taking it as fact and instantly deciding that any reference to 'lesser humans' must be the people you are backing exterminating.Nope, we've been over this repeatedly. I didn't refer to either zionists or Palestinians in that comment, just religious extremists who think they are the 'chosen people'. Being a religious extremist you just instantly jumped in and though it only applies to you, as all religious extremists don't recognize that all other religious extremists also think they are the 'chosen people'.No, I made no reference to Palestinians. There is no such thing as 'Gazans', they are Palestinians, by the way.It took decades to end South African apartheid.
We are there now with zionism, it will end soon.
zionists are hated globally and recognized as racial supremacists committing genocide, a description they share with nazis.Idiotic lack of reasoning, Shazi. Netanayahu is the one stopping the return of the hostages, as you well know. That is why there are mass protests today against him in Israel. Ceasefire is the only way to get the hostages back and end the killing, on both sides, not to mention abiding by UNSC resolutions and the ICJ rulings.
Hate speech, Shazi.
You sound a nazi describing Jews in 1945.
Cut it out.
Sure. Just stop lying first.
You just wasted a lot of time and bandwidth because you can't change the fact that you called Gazans lesser humans. Let's strike up the band once again for another rendition:
slaughtering lesser humans is part of their path of righteousness.
 

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I don't know if you said it but that is certainly what you wrote. You screwed yourself because your rhetoric is so radical and hate-filled it oozes out of your pores.You can't control yourself Temper, temper, dear.
I was replying to this:
Is there a revenge loophole or something? Maybe an appropriate scripture quotation? :rolleyes: ...
With this sarcastic reply:
I think there is an exception for all chosen people, they can do no wrong and slaughtering lesser humans is part of their path of righteousness.
Nowhere in that post do I mention Jews or Palestinians.
That is all just your views coming out, Shazi.
All this is doing is proving that what I posted as sarcastic reply accurately reflects your genocidal views.

The problem is that you are a racial supremacist, a religious wacko who immediately thought the 'chosen people' could only apply to you and that by saying 'lesser humans' you thought that could only apply to the Palestinians you are trying to exterminate. You took a sarcastic reply and because you believe it to be true, took it as your own gospel.

Again, your views are exactly the same as Gallant, who will be issued with a warrant for genocide by the ICC very soon.
You may prefer 'lesser humans' but you also argue like you think you are fighting 'human animals' as Gallant states.
 

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Shazi…..you should be on your hands and knees begging forgiveness from Frankfooter. The ICJ confirmed every assertion he made regarding POS Nations conduct. You, squealed like a little pig that he was wrong and it would never happen. It did and in spades.

Apologize to him. Maybe you will finally regain some dignity.
Heck, I'll address it now because this is low hanging fruit and you need to apologize to me.

I did not comment one way or the other on the substance of what the ICJ said, other than to say the ruling is toothless.

What I have been going on about, and with complete validity, is that Geno is being cowardly and hypocritical by not commenting on the HRW report of a few days ago, wherein they ruled unequivocally that Hamas committed war crimes, crimes against humanity and atrocities including sexual abuse during the attack of Oct.7. If he wants us to accept every HRW ruling, he must accept this specific ruling at face value and exclusive of any other rulings.

I am not being unreasonable. It is a perfectly logical request in light of how this amicable exchange of ideas has progressed. This one missing statement by Geno, leaves an enormous gap in the breadth and scope of our discussion.

Unlike Geno's debating tactics, I did not resort to telling you to STFU. I hope you appreciate my scholarly and gentlemanly approach.

And I'm still waiting for your definitions of Ziontologist and Shazi. If you are unable, you can just simply say that that is the case.
 

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Heck, I'll address it now because this is low hanging fruit and you need to apologize to me.

I did not comment one way or the other on the substance of what the ICJ said, other than to say the ruling is toothless.

What I have been going on about, and with complete validity, is that Geno is being cowardly and hypocritical by not commenting on the HRW report of a few days ago, wherein they ruled unequivocally that Hamas committed war crimes, crimes against humanity and atrocities including sexual abuse during the attack of Oct.7. If he wants us to accept every HRW ruling, he must accept this specific ruling at face value and exclusive of any other rulings.

I am not being unreasonable. It is a perfectly logical request in light of how this amicable exchange of ideas has progressed. This one missing statement by Geno, leaves an enormous gap in the breadth and scope of our discussion.

Unlike Geno's debating tactics, I did not resort to telling you to STFU. I hope you appreciate my scholarly and gentlemanly approach.

And I'm still waiting for your definitions of Ziontologist and Shazi. If you are unable, you can just simply say that that is the case.
I replied directly to your HRW post multiple time, Shazi.
This was the latest reply.

You refuse to reply to my question.
Do you really believe that you are the 'chosen people' and that you have a right to exterminate and steal the land of people Gallant calls 'human animals'?
Every post by you in this nearly 1000 page long thread backs up this statement, Shazi.

 

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I was replying to this:

With this sarcastic reply:


Nowhere in that post do I mention Jews or Palestinians.
That is all just your views coming out, Shazi.
All this is doing is proving that what I posted as sarcastic reply accurately reflects your genocidal views.

The problem is that you are a racial supremacist, a religious wacko who immediately thought the 'chosen people' could only apply to you and that by saying 'lesser humans' you thought that could only apply to the Palestinians you are trying to exterminate. You took a sarcastic reply and because you believe it to be true, took it as your own gospel.

Again, your views are exactly the same as Gallant, who will be issued with a warrant for genocide by the ICC very soon.
You may prefer 'lesser humans' but you also argue like you think you are fighting 'human animals' as Gallant states.
Squirm some more. As you continue to mock me and claim how much more internet savvy you are than I, you, of all people, should know that sarcasm rarely is captured well by the written word.

As such you would not be so stupid to say something sarcastically. You would make sure that your words could not be misinterpreted. Therefor, I cannot accept that you attempted to use sarcasm here. You flatly called Gazans "lesser humans". You said it and you need to own it.

Or maybe you are prepared to tell us that you really are stupid. Those are the only 2 options I can see.
 

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Squirm some more. As you continue to mock me and claim how much more internet savvy you are than I, you, of all people, should know that sarcasm rarely is captured well by the written word.

As such you would not be so stupid to say something sarcastically. You would make sure that your words could not be misinterpreted. Therefor, I cannot accept that you attempted to use sarcasm here. You flatly called Gazans "lesser humans". You said it and you need to own it.

Or maybe you are prepared to tell us that you really are stupid. Those are the only 2 options I can see.
No, Shazi.
Nowhere in this exchange is there a mention of zionists or Palestinians.
That is entirely your own racist filter.

Is there a revenge loophole or something? Maybe an appropriate scripture quotation? :rolleyes: ...
I think there is an exception for all chosen people, they can do no wrong and slaughtering lesser humans is part of their path of righteousness.
 

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I replied directly to your HRW post multiple time, Shazi.
This was the latest reply.

You refuse to reply to my question.
Do you really believe that you are the 'chosen people' and that you have a right to exterminate and steal the land of people Gallant calls 'human animals'?
Every post by you in this nearly 1000 page long thread backs up this statement, Shazi.
1)That link didn't work. Is it your early onset dementia again?
2)You need to specifically say, and without including anything else. that you agree with and accept at face value the HRW report of 4 days ago saying that Hamas committed war crimes and crimes against humanity including atrocities of a sexual nature on the Oct.7 attack on Israel. You have staunchly refused to do that.

Here is their statement of July 17. Do you agree with this statement of that date in and of itself, excluding any previous statements of theirs. Including any previous statements by HWR, negates your response. This is hardly a difficult request for a man of your intellect and integrity. (BTW, that is how one uses sarcasm without fucking themselves over. Your welcome. LOLOLOLOLOL.)
October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups | Human Rights Watch (hrw.org)
 

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Heck, I'll address it now because this is low hanging fruit and you need to apologize to me.

I did not comment one way or the other on the substance of what the ICJ said, other than to say the ruling is toothless.

What I have been going on about, and with complete validity, is that Geno is being cowardly and hypocritical by not commenting on the HRW report of a few days ago, wherein they ruled unequivocally that Hamas committed war crimes, crimes against humanity and atrocities including sexual abuse during the attack of Oct.7. If he wants us to accept every HRW ruling, he must accept this specific ruling at face value and exclusive of any other rulings.

I am not being unreasonable. It is a perfectly logical request in light of how this amicable exchange of ideas has progressed. This one missing statement by Geno, leaves an enormous gap in the breadth and scope of our discussion.

Unlike Geno's debating tactics, I did not resort to telling you to STFU. I hope you appreciate my scholarly and gentlemanly approach.

And I'm still waiting for your definitions of Ziontologist and Shazi. If you are unable, you can just simply say that that is the case.
More grubby pig squealing.
 

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1)That link didn't work. Is it your early onset dementia again?
2)You need to specifically say, and without including anything else. that you agree with and accept at face value the HRW report of 4 days ago saying that Hamas committed war crimes and crimes against humanity including atrocities of a sexual nature on the Oct.7 attack on Israel. You have staunchly refused to do that.

Here is their statement of July 17. Do you agree with this statement of that date in and of itself, excluding any previous statements of theirs. Including any previous statements by HWR, negates your response. This is hardly a difficult request for a man of your intellect and integrity. (BTW, that is how one uses sarcasm without fucking themselves over. Your welcome. LOLOLOLOLOL.)
October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups | Human Rights Watch (hrw.org)
No, it’s your dementia. The link works. FFS you are hopeless and a time waster.
 

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No, Shazi.
Nowhere in this exchange is there a mention of zionists or Palestinians.
That is entirely your own racist filter.
Own your words, Geno.

Frankfooter said:
slaughtering lesser humans is part of their path of righteousness. (That is you referencing Israelis and Gazans. In black and white.)

You sound just like trump when he tried telling us that when he suggested using bleach or internal light beams to cure Covid was a joke. Did you believe him when he said that? I didn't think you did, either.

In just one day you've mimicked both trump's and Hitler's tactics when they're caught lying. You must be so proud of yourself. Our self-proclaimed White Knight of TERB.
 

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More grubby pig squealing.
No intelligible response from you, eh Porky? You are consistent.

Why don't you use your words to show how wrong I am, instead?
 
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