Will Biden step down?

[Frankfooter]

Just another TDS post from you and more misinformation.

I'll give that 4/10 for entertainment value...you've done better.

Excellent.
I'm aiming for a 0/10 for entertaining you, skoob.
I'll keep at it then.

Each of his crimes are totally inept, skoob.
Georgia? Its like a really bad 80's mob movie 'I just need 11 thousand votes to get counted' or whatever he said.
As if using mob language but still having it recorded on a phone call would keep him in the clear.

He's such a shitty crook.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1811911932540043332

 

[Frankfooter]

You claimed that Trump stole money from a children's hospital charity...I've hopefully convinced that it was not the case.

You are a particularly orange faced and shitty ass kisser, skoob.
There is zero chance that you're going to convince anyone but yourself since there was a trial, a court decision, a fine and an order to never run a charity ever, ever again.

If rump is ordered to never run a business in NY you'll be here the next day trying to convince us that it didn't happen.
How shitty of a crook do you have to be to steal from your own charity in such an obvious way that you get caught?
You think he was ordered to pay $2 million as a reward for his good work?

Judge fines Trump $2 million for misusing charity foundation

A judge in New York ordered President Donald Trump to pay $2 million for misusing his charitable foundation.

apnews.com

 

[Skoob]

You are a particularly orange faced and shitty ass kisser, skoob.
There is zero chance that you're going to convince anyone but yourself since there was a trial, a court decision, a fine and an order to never run a charity ever, ever again.

If rump is ordered to never run a business in NY you'll be here the next day trying to convince us that it didn't happen.
How shitty of a crook do you have to be to steal from your own charity in such an obvious way that you get caught?
You think he was ordered to pay $2 million as a reward for his good work?

Judge fines Trump $2 million for misusing charity foundation

A judge in New York ordered President Donald Trump to pay $2 million for misusing his charitable foundation.

apnews.com

No money was stolen from a children's hospital as claimed by the OP That is a fact.

You can distract all you want...but you know I'm right.

 

[Skoob]

Excellent.
I'm aiming for a 0/10 for entertaining you, skoob.
I'll keep at it then.

Each of his crimes are totally inept, skoob.
Georgia? Its like a really bad 80's mob movie 'I just need 11 thousand votes to get counted' or whatever he said.
As if using mob language but still having it recorded on a phone call would keep him in the clear.

He's such a shitty crook.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1811911932540043332

You score just went to 5/10!

 

[Frankfooter]

No money was stolen from a children's hospital as claimed by the OP That is a fact.

You can distract all you want...but you know I'm right.

rump stole money from the rump foundation, not a a kid's hospital.
You are very much wrong.

rump is a shitty crook but you're a very bad minion.

corrected post

 

[Valcazar]

It's being discussed in this thread...review the history.

I haven't seen either one of you actually link to anything about the case and don't feel like searching the whole thread.
I've seen you both make a lot of assertions.

ETA - I see Frank has linked to a different case than the cancer charity one.

 

[Valcazar]

You are a particularly orange faced and shitty ass kisser, skoob.
There is zero chance that you're going to convince anyone but yourself since there was a trial, a court decision, a fine and an order to never run a charity ever, ever again.

That didn't happen, though.
Trump's kids had to have mandatory training and for Trump himself, any charity in New York State for which Trump serves as a director must have a majority of independent directors (meaning no one in his inner-circle). Also, it must engage counsel with expertise in New York not-for-profit law. The charity will also have to use the services of an accounting firm to monitor and audit the organization’s grants and expenses.

If Trump starts a new charity, that charity must also comply with those requirements and report to the New York Attorney General for five years

-- Yes, Trump has all kinds of restrictions on him due to his bullshit with his previous charity, but he isn't banned from running a charity ever, ever, again.

You think he was ordered to pay $2 million as a reward for his good work?

Judge fines Trump $2 million for misusing charity foundation

A judge in New York ordered President Donald Trump to pay $2 million for misusing his charitable foundation.

apnews.com

I will point out that what you are linking to has nothing to do with stealing money from children's cancer charities.

 

[Frankfooter]

That didn't happen, though.
Trump's kids had to have mandatory training and for Trump himself, any charity in New York State for which Trump serves as a director must have a majority of independent directors (meaning no one in his inner-circle). Also, it must engage counsel with expertise in New York not-for-profit law. The charity will also have to use the services of an accounting firm to monitor and audit the organization’s grants and expenses.

If Trump starts a new charity, that charity must also comply with those requirements and report to the New York Attorney General for five years

-- Yes, Trump has all kinds of restrictions on him due to his bullshit with his previous charity, but he isn't banned from running a charity ever, ever, again.



I will point out that what you are linking to has nothing to do with stealing money from children's cancer charities.

True, it was Eric who stole money from the cancer charity.

Did Eric Trump steal money from cancer-hit children? Truth behind allegations as he claims 'MAGA is going nowhere'

In 2017, Eric Trump was accused of funneling money raised for children with cancer and using it to 'enrich' his businesses and turns out these accusations are resurfacing

meaww.com

rumps foundation, was the one he got in trouble with.

President Pays Gigantic Fine for Stealing From Charity

Donald Trump is in charge of enforcing the nation's laws, but he doesn't follow them. What a delicious twist of constitutional irony!

slate.com

Its hard to keep track of all the shitty crimes rump and his family have committed.
You really can't be very bright if you think you can get away with using charity money to settle your own legal bills.

 

[silentkisser]

I provided a media outlet comparison in another thread that would appear to contradict your view on left/right media bias.
Why is it that whenever the discussion about liberals and conservatives comes up, the left first tries to establish that the right is more racist as a basis for the discussion?
Why does the left try and create the perception that if you are conservative, you're a religious fanatic that hates all other religions?

I would say that's more successful brainwashing and marketing on behalf of the left.

Obama spoke nicely...but he holds the distinction of America's most war-time president being at war for all 8 years of his presidency!
Clinton was getting blow jobs from an intern and was impeached. He was a good speaker as well.

Both the above did that while in office.

Everything you claimed about Trump's personal life happened years before he became president. And it's his personal life. Would you want your co-workers judging your work based on your personal life?

First, it is easy to argue that racism is a part of this, because, well, the HUGE explosion in white supremacy that vocally supports the right, MAGA, the GOP and Trump. They might have always been there (well, at least since the GOP and Dems switched positions in the support of civil rights in the 50s, when so-called "dixie-crats" in the south joined the GOP in huge numbers...). Remember, the Party of Lincoln fought and fought hard against segregation and the repeal of Jim Crow laws and the signing of the Civil Rights act.

As for the religious aspect, how many prominent right-wingers are evangelical Christians, and how many are calling the US a Christian nation. How many are trying to push their religious morals in the laws and repeal civil rights? Abortion and gay marriage are under fire, and it comes from these people. So....when you have leadership and a vocal minority that wants to turn the country into a fundamentalist Christian nation....that's probably a cause for concern.

Clinton should have been impeached. But, let's also call a spade a spade, that investigation should never have happened in the first place. Starr, a GOP insider, went well beyond his mandate to put the screws to Clinton.

Finally, Obama inherited a war from GWB. Wars like that are easy to get into, much harder to pull out of. AND.....do you recall the GOP calling on him to "bring the troops home?" I don't, because they didn't. And while Trump might have pulled the plug, he fucked Biden because his negotiations with the Taliban imposed really tight deadlines for the US to pull out. Which led to that chaos.

 

[Skoob]

First, it is easy to argue that racism is a part of this, because, well, the HUGE explosion in white supremacy that vocally supports the right, MAGA, the GOP and Trump. They might have always been there (well, at least since the GOP and Dems switched positions in the support of civil rights in the 50s, when so-called "dixie-crats" in the south joined the GOP in huge numbers...). Remember, the Party of Lincoln fought and fought hard against segregation and the repeal of Jim Crow laws and the signing of the Civil Rights act.

As for the religious aspect, how many prominent right-wingers are evangelical Christians, and how many are calling the US a Christian nation. How many are trying to push their religious morals in the laws and repeal civil rights? Abortion and gay marriage are under fire, and it comes from these people. So....when you have leadership and a vocal minority that wants to turn the country into a fundamentalist Christian nation....that's probably a cause for concern.

Clinton should have been impeached. But, let's also call a spade a spade, that investigation should never have happened in the first place. Starr, a GOP insider, went well beyond his mandate to put the screws to Clinton.

Finally, Obama inherited a war from GWB. Wars like that are easy to get into, much harder to pull out of. AND.....do you recall the GOP calling on him to "bring the troops home?" I don't, because they didn't. And while Trump might have pulled the plug, he fucked Biden because his negotiations with the Taliban imposed really tight deadlines for the US to pull out. Which led to that chaos.

That's a myth pushed by the left to portray all conservatives as white supremacists. I've always said the left is better at that type of marketing than the right. It's all part of the doom/gloom tactics the left is notorious for.

How many Dem insiders have put the screws to Trump? Where do you think all the investigations were spawned from?

Obama was at war for all 8 years of his presidency. Multiple wars. 8 years!

 

[silentkisser]

You claimed that Trump stole money from a children's hospital charity...I've hopefully convinced that it was not the case.

Do you see how cognitive bias can blur someone's rational?

That is the point I've been making. You appear to be well versed in political history and media...yet you were convinced about something that didn't actually happen as described.
Now multiply that over and over again.

Again, where did I saw that he stole money from a children's hospital charity? What I will point out was the Trump Foundation misused charitable funds for other purposes, was forced to repay $2 million and then shut down the foundation. That happened. That is real. So, pretending that it isn't true doesn't really matter.

 

[silentkisser]

That's a myth pushed by the left to portray all conservatives as white supremacists. I've always said the left is better at that type of marketing than the right. It's all part of the doom/gloom tactics the left is notorious for.

First, nobody believes that all GOPers are white supremacists. What we will say is that most white supremacists are GOPers. See the difference? None vote Democrat. I think that's a fairly safe bet to make...

How many Dem insiders have put the screws to Trump? Where do you think all the investigations were spawned from?

Um....considering that the DOJ is chock full of GOPers, including Jack Smith, I'd say the figure is very small. I touched on James Comey fucking Hillary over in 2016, but didn't mention the wave of rumours and leaks from FBI sources throughout the campaign that were weaponized against her...and much of it was exaggerations or lies. Now, the right can cry about how Donald is targeted, but I think it shows how blatant and flagarent his crimes were. Obama did nothing close to this. If he did, the left would call for him to face the ramifications.

Obama was at war for all 8 years of his presidency. Multiple wars. 8 years!

And........how many did he start? And politically, you know the GOP would crucify him for ending them. They were so gung-ho about Iraq and Afghanistan, supporting the troops etc. If Obama pulled out, they would say he was betraying the soldiers....Don't pretend for a second that that wouldn't have happened.

 

[silentkisser]

The corporate mainstream media has proven itself to be anything but centrist. Hell half the media have close ties to the Democratic Party. And that party hasn't been centrist since the days of Bill Clinton.

LOL - Hilarious. The mainstream media falls over itself to appear unbiased. They go after Biden with a vengeance instead of grilling Trump for fear of being called leftists. After the debate, all of them called for Biden to step down, yet did not provide any scrutiny on Trump or his performance....or his rambling speeches.

If anything, the MSM has moved to the right. What was centrist in Clinton's time sure as fuck ain't that now.
Saying otherwise is just right-wing spin.

 

[Skoob]

Again, where did I saw that he stole money from a children's hospital charity? What I will point out was the Trump Foundation misused charitable funds for other purposes, was forced to repay $2 million and then shut down the foundation. That happened. That is real. So, pretending that it isn't true doesn't really matter.

Sorry, it was another member in this thread who said he stole money from children's charities not you.
I haven't disputed that there was a verdict.
I've disputed the notion that it was mentioned by the poster that he frauded a kids charity/hospital and that was not the case.

But what matters most is that due to the campaign to keep him in court, the end result is that the charities that have received $millions over the years, will no longer get anything. ie cut nose to spite face simply for political gain.

 

[Butler1000]

If Trump pulls off a very real moment with his speech on Thursday, the new question will be....

Does it matter? There may not be anyone who can defeat him or will want to try.

Especially because any attempt to replace him will cause chaos that will reflect on the party.

 

[silentkisser]

Sorry, it was another member in this thread who said he stole money from children's charities not you.
I haven't disputed that there was a verdict.
I've disputed the notion that it was mentioned by the poster that he frauded a kids charity/hospital and that was not the case.

But what matters most is that due to the campaign to keep him in court, the end result is that the charities that have received $millions over the years, will no longer get anything. ie cut nose to spite face simply for political gain.

There is nothing stopping Donald or anyone in his family from donating to charity. They just cannot run their own. So, if they were really philanthropic, nothing would stop them. So, i'm not going to cry over the money these charities "could" have received from the Trump Foundation.

 

[Skoob]

There is nothing stopping Donald or anyone in his family from donating to charity. They just cannot run their own. So, if they were really philanthropic, nothing would stop them. So, i'm not going to cry over the money these charities "could" have received from the Trump Foundation.

Running their own has generated more money for those charities than simple donations directly from the family.
That money is now gone. All because a politically-motivated campaign of finding bookkeeping errors just to get Trump in court and in headlines apparently outweighed the benefit that these charities were getting.


btw if you want to know the facts about the allegations...



Social Posts Distort Facts on Trump Charities

First of all, it’s wrong to say the family was “disallowed” from operating a charity in the state. There was no such stipulation in the settlement with the attorney general.

While the attorney general’s lawsuit initially asked the court to bar Trump and his grown children who sat on the foundation’s board from serving as any charity’s “officer, director, trustee or equivalent position” for a period of time, the settlement reached did not do that.

There also was no part of the state’s lawsuit that dealt with allegations that the Trump Foundation “stole from a kids cancer charity,” as the posts claim.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/social-posts-distort-facts-on-trump-charities/

 

[Frankfooter]

Running their own has generated more money for those charities than simple donations directly from the family.
That money is now gone. All because a politically-motivated campaign of finding bookkeeping errors just to get Trump in court and in headlines apparently outweighed the benefit that these charities were getting.


btw if you want to know the facts about the allegations...



Social Posts Distort Facts on Trump Charities

First of all, it’s wrong to say the family was “disallowed” from operating a charity in the state. There was no such stipulation in the settlement with the attorney general.

While the attorney general’s lawsuit initially asked the court to bar Trump and his grown children who sat on the foundation’s board from serving as any charity’s “officer, director, trustee or equivalent position” for a period of time, the settlement reached did not do that.

There also was no part of the state’s lawsuit that dealt with allegations that the Trump Foundation “stole from a kids cancer charity,” as the posts claim.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/social-posts-distort-facts-on-trump-charities/

You have to be a shitty crook to get caught stealing from a charity you set up.
That's just skoobid.

Of course you want to minimize it, instead of admitting that its really shitty and stupid to pilfer money from your own charity to pay for your legal bills.

 

[Skoob]

You have to be a shitty crook to get caught stealing from a charity you set up.
That's just skoobid.

Of course you want to minimize it, instead of admitting that its really shitty and stupid to pilfer money from your own charity to pay for your legal bills.

You have to be a shitty crook to get caught stealing from a charity you set up.
That's just skoobid.

Of course you want to minimize it, instead of admitting that its really shitty and stupid to pilfer money from your own charity to pay for your legal bills.

So just ignore the info and create your own alternate facts.
Got it.
No wonder no one trusts you.

 

[Skoob]

First, nobody believes that all GOPers are white supremacists. What we will say is that most white supremacists are GOPers. See the difference? None vote Democrat. I think that's a fairly safe bet to make...

Um....considering that the DOJ is chock full of GOPers, including Jack Smith, I'd say the figure is very small. I touched on James Comey fucking Hillary over in 2016, but didn't mention the wave of rumours and leaks from FBI sources throughout the campaign that were weaponized against her...and much of it was exaggerations or lies. Now, the right can cry about how Donald is targeted, but I think it shows how blatant and flagarent his crimes were. Obama did nothing close to this. If he did, the left would call for him to face the ramifications.


And........how many did he start? And politically, you know the GOP would crucify him for ending them. They were so gung-ho about Iraq and Afghanistan, supporting the troops etc. If Obama pulled out, they would say he was betraying the soldiers....Don't pretend for a second that that wouldn't have happened.

Saying that most white supremacists are GOPers is misleading and a dangerous hasty generalization. That is what happens when the Left repeats things hoping that they stick.
Do you have proof that there are no racist Democrats out there? That narrative suggests that "if you are Conservative, you share the same views as white supremacists" because you happen to support the same party. So do you think the ever increasing number of black & Latino GOP supporters are white supremacists? You can see the holes in that argument.
Don't let the Left convince you their narrative is true just because the marketing they put out there tries to convey that.

I prefer to stick to facts and the facts say otherwise...


Democratic Advantage at Record Lows Among Black and Hispanic Adults
Most of the decline has been recent, with the net-Democratic ID for this group falling 19 points from a 66-point advantage in 2020. At that time, 77% of Black adults favored the Democrats and 11% the Republicans, so the 2023 findings represent an 11-point decrease in Democratic affiliation since 2020 and an eight-point increase in Republican affiliation.



https://news.gallup.com/poll/609776/democrats-lose-ground-black-hispanic-adults.aspx

re Obama's war record...he kept the wars going and didn't stop any. That's the irony here. Speculating about who would have said what about ending any of them is just that, speculation. America's most wartime president ever...and on that topic he somehow gets a pass while others have called Trump a war monger for some strange reason. All part of the left-driven narrative I guess.